Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 I would like to share this experience with you. This is relatively very simple case but I think this would help to explain how we can use Ayurvedic principles to treat different conditions in day-to-day practice. Not exactly perinatal, but this case explains importance of a type of vata called apana vata. Main functions of apana vata are excretion of waste and also childbirth. Normal direction of apana vata is downwards. And therefore modalities such as anuloman (mild purgation), basti, and anal suppository helps regulate the function of apana vata. A 4-year-old girl was brought to me at 8.30 in the evening with the mother telling that she has not passed urine since last 24 hours. She has had diarrhea, fever, and vomiting since 3 days and was treated elsewhere for that with antibiotic and antiemetic. Fever subsided, but she was still throwing up. Diarrhea stopped but she had not passed any stool since the day before I saw her. The parents called the pediatrician who felt the anuria was due to dehydration and that the child may need admission and IV fluids. Although the parents had given her lots and lots of water and other fluids, but no urine still. When I saw the patient, she was alert and playful without any sign of dehydration with little abdominal distention. I asked them to stop all medications, stop pushing water, and I gave her little gokshur and yavakshar every hour to help her urinate. Nothing happened. Suspecting this was due to obstruction of apana vata, at 2.30 a.m. I decided to use anal suppository before giving her any basti treatment. This did the trick. She passed some stool and along with that she passed lot of urine and slept soundly afterwards. I have posted this elsewhere on the internet but I felt I should also share this with you. Dr Thite www.ayurvedicrx.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Hi ayurveda Group: I recently joined the group. I am a student of Ayurveda and interested in learning more about the field from the parishioners. I would like to find out more about Apana Vata specifically a condition related to delayed or absence of menstruation. What causes apana vata and how to go about curing it? The case is of a 30 year old woman who is vata-pitta body consitution and she is trying to get pregnent but her she does not get regular periods. Thanks, Dhara ayurveda , " cmthite " <cmthite wrote: > > I would like to share this experience with you. This is relatively > very simple case but I think this would help to explain how we can > use Ayurvedic principles to treat different conditions in day-to- day > practice. > > Not exactly perinatal, but this case explains importance of a type of > vata called apana vata. Main functions of apana vata are excretion > of waste and also childbirth. Normal direction of apana vata is > downwards. And therefore modalities such as anuloman (mild > purgation), basti, and anal suppository helps regulate the function > of apana vata. > > A 4-year-old girl was brought to me at 8.30 in the evening with the > mother telling that she has not passed urine since last 24 hours. She > has had diarrhea, fever, and vomiting since 3 days and was treated > elsewhere for that with antibiotic and antiemetic. Fever subsided, > but she was still throwing up. Diarrhea stopped but she had not > passed any stool since the day before I saw her. The parents called > the pediatrician who felt the anuria was due to dehydration and that > the child may need admission and IV fluids. Although the parents had > given her lots and lots of water and other fluids, but no urine > still. When I saw the patient, she was alert and playful without any > sign of dehydration with little abdominal distention. I asked them to > stop all medications, stop pushing water, and I gave her little > gokshur and yavakshar every hour to help her urinate. Nothing > happened. Suspecting this was due to obstruction of apana vata, at > 2.30 a.m. I decided to use anal suppository before giving her any > basti treatment. This did the trick. She passed some stool and along > with that she passed lot of urine and slept soundly afterwards. > > I have posted this elsewhere on the internet but I felt I should also > share this with you. > > Dr Thite > www.ayurvedicrx.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Hi Dr. Thite; As you well know, apana vata is very important understanding for our health, at any age and especially around childbearing, and for young children who, as Dr. John Douillard explains in depth, often suffer from layers of the disease process into adulthood because no one paid attention to how often the child was passing stool. And the way Ayurveda looks at women's health is within the category of pediatrics. It is all mixed together in many ways! It is often amazing to me how what gets blown into huge proportions by fear in the parents and inability to sometimes see that 1+1=2 in the medical profession (with all due respect, and it isn't just the medical profession) the situation, like this y ou shared, is so simply resolved by assisting the body's natural intelligence to work correctly in the place where it was not, and all the other problems self correct too. This is an interesting angle of support I've never considered; of course urine and stool are both managed by apana vayu. I love the common sense of it too. Namaste; Ysha > > A 4-year-old girl was brought to me at 8.30 in the evening with the > mother telling that she has not passed urine since last 24 hours. > gokshur and yavakshar every hour to help her urinate. Nothing > happened. Suspecting this was due to obstruction of apana vata, at > 2.30 a.m. I decided to use anal suppository before giving her any > basti treatment. This did the trick. She passed some stool and along > with that she passed lot of urine and slept soundly afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 Dear Dr. Thite, I so thank you for sharing your experience with the four year old mentioned below. I had a five year old come into my clinic last week who has had recurrent urinary tract infections over the past months. Parents are treating her allopathically, but a friend of the family who is an open-minded pediatrician recommended she see me for craniosacral therapy. This young girl is squeezing and holding her bladder so tight that it did not surprise me she's getting infections. She is very fearful. The mother said that when she tries to urinate during the day, only very small amounts of urine ever pass and this only with effort. Also I was told small amounts of urine pass throughout the day into her panties. It seems like anal suppository could benefit her, but I wantted to know more before recommending it to the parents, who are not used to anything other than allopathic. I recently did three nights of sesame oil basti and was amazed at the relaxation and calm I felt in my lower body. This was the first time I'd done a series of oil basti, so am grateful to have recently had this first hand experience. I can then imagine even more how this potentially could be useful to this child. If anal suppositories would be recommended. Would you also suggest warm sesame oil inserted with a sirenge? How much oil? I was told to do 150cc for myself as a small adult. I will be teaching the mother how to do massage on the child this coming week, as she very positively responded to touch. Your expertise and time are very much appreciated. Namaste, Kim Luchau --- cmthite <cmthite wrote: > I would like to share this experience with you. > This is relatively > very simple case but I think this would help to > explain how we can > use Ayurvedic principles to treat different > conditions in day-to-day > practice. > > Not exactly perinatal, but this case explains > importance of a type of > vata called apana vata. Main functions of apana > vata are excretion > of waste and also childbirth. Normal direction of > apana vata is > downwards. And therefore modalities such as > anuloman (mild > purgation), basti, and anal suppository helps > regulate the function > of apana vata. > > A 4-year-old girl was brought to me at 8.30 in the > evening with the > mother telling that she has not passed urine since > last 24 hours. She > has had diarrhea, fever, and vomiting since 3 days > and was treated > elsewhere for that with antibiotic and antiemetic. > Fever subsided, > but she was still throwing up. Diarrhea stopped but > she had not > passed any stool since the day before I saw her. The > parents called > the pediatrician who felt the anuria was due to > dehydration and that > the child may need admission and IV fluids. Although > the parents had > given her lots and lots of water and other fluids, > but no urine > still. When I saw the patient, she was alert and > playful without any > sign of dehydration with little abdominal > distention. I asked them to > stop all medications, stop pushing water, and I gave > her little > gokshur and yavakshar every hour to help her > urinate. Nothing > happened. Suspecting this was due to obstruction of > apana vata, at > 2.30 a.m. I decided to use anal suppository before > giving her any > basti treatment. This did the trick. She passed some > stool and along > with that she passed lot of urine and slept soundly > afterwards. > > I have posted this elsewhere on the internet but I > felt I should also > share this with you. > > Dr Thite > www.ayurvedicrx.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 Dear Dhara; Please share the context of your studies? Perhaps by now you have discovered that Apana Vata is not a negative condition but merely what we call a subdosha of Vata. The doshas are metabolic principles governing aspects of body function. The subdoshas get more specific about it. Vata dosha, the principle created by the subtle " elements " (which have been identified even in modern subatomic principles by Dr. John Hagelin) we call the two involved with vata dosha - air and space combining, basically governs movement and change in the body. This is someting we need and only want to " cure " (correct) it when there is excess in some way or deficiency. So regarding Apana Vata, which governs the downward energies/actions/ " wind " of the body which has to do with eliminations, menstruation, ejaculation and childbirth, you have asked about the condition of insufficient Apana vata. It may be that the body is excessively in upward movement/energies, such as too much udana vata (governing speach, hearing and other things). I have seen this happen on numerous occasions with men and women doing spiritual practices which pull the attention/energies up without grounding the body's functions, for instance. It also can happen with sanskaras (old patterning) from sexual abuse or other related fears or negative history around " that part of the body " . Or habits of constipation often indicate overall underfunction of apanapran, as Dr. Thite's example with the 4 year old illustrates. A full etiology is beyond my training or practice, but there is enough to know your client or friend needs support and get some idea of the direction. Naturally the wisest way to handle the issue is begin with a full history, as many telling keys will show up for which of the many ayurvedic tools for this situation will be most directly helpful. There are nutritive and demulcent herbs such as shatavari, more healing herbs such as ashoka that come to mind, used in a properly designed formula for her whole system, both of which in this case target the reproductive tissues. One or two of the sessions at the recent conference on Ayrveda offer clear guidelines to begin formulating herbs, more than this evenings attentions can repeat. The notes are available in the confrence proceedings, though a few brief pages are not enough to teach someone how to choose and design it is good supportive material. Use of aloe vera gel may be very valuable if she isnot too cold; gently increasing apana and assisting with demulcence and detoxificatons. If it were my daughter listening (someday?) I would prepare for her a small natural undyed piece of flannel to use at night soaked with maybe 2 tsp sesame oil or ghee or some such to nourish the vaginal area and increase the body's memory of the value of smoothness and relax the cervix in that way, done for a few days before expected menses. Hot water bottle over the lower abdomen similarly is simple common sense " medicine " to improve relaxation and circulation. The shatavari is an excellent rejuvenative tonic for fertility, although most people will do much better with it first doing at least one round of few days of panchakarma. Please see the files here for some detail on a home verson of this, not as powerful but much less expensive if this is a problem for access. Value of the panchakarma cleansing for fertility and healthy function of the whole system cannot be overemphasized here. OFten fertility in such cases of regular menstruation is not just weak apana vata but accumulated environmental toxins that this type of cleansing, as discussed in other posts, is particularly good at removing. Hopefully this helps you see the bigger picture around the many wonderful tools Ayurveda has to offer and how to find more support for this dear woman. Warm regards; Ysha > Hi ayurveda Group: > > I recently joined the group. I am a student of Ayurveda and > interested in learning more about the field from the parishioners. > > I would like to find out more about Apana Vata specifically a > condition related to delayed or absence of menstruation. What > causes apana vata and how to go about curing it? > > The case is of a 30 year old woman who is vata-pitta body > consitution and she is trying to get pregnent but her she does not > get regular periods. > > Thanks, > Dhara > > ayurveda , " cmthite " <cmthite@> > wrote: > > > > I would like to share this experience with you. This is > relatively > > very simple case but I think this would help to explain how we can > > use Ayurvedic principles to treat different conditions in day-to- > day > > practice. > > > > Not exactly perinatal, but this case explains importance of a type > of > > vata called apana vata. Main functions of apana vata are > excretion > > of waste and also childbirth. Normal direction of apana vata is > > downwards. And therefore modalities such as anuloman (mild > > purgation), basti, and anal suppository helps regulate the > function > > of apana vata. > > > > A 4-year-old girl was brought to me at 8.30 in the evening with > the > > mother telling that she has not passed urine since last 24 hours. > She > > has had diarrhea, fever, and vomiting since 3 days and was treated > > elsewhere for that with antibiotic and antiemetic. Fever subsided, > > but she was still throwing up. Diarrhea stopped but she had not > > passed any stool since the day before I saw her. The parents > called > > the pediatrician who felt the anuria was due to dehydration and > that > > the child may need admission and IV fluids. Although the parents > had > > given her lots and lots of water and other fluids, but no urine > > still. When I saw the patient, she was alert and playful without > any > > sign of dehydration with little abdominal distention. I asked them > to > > stop all medications, stop pushing water, and I gave her little > > gokshur and yavakshar every hour to help her urinate. Nothing > > happened. Suspecting this was due to obstruction of apana vata, > at > > 2.30 a.m. I decided to use anal suppository before giving her any > > basti treatment. This did the trick. She passed some stool and > along > > with that she passed lot of urine and slept soundly afterwards. > > > > I have posted this elsewhere on the internet but I felt I should > also > > share this with you. > > > > Dr Thite > > www.ayurvedicrx.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Hello Kim Luchau, Oil basti may help vata obstruction part of this condition. But I suggest you may also look for any pitta symptoms. I have seen pitta predominance in patients with bacterial infection - not as a rule though. Child may not be able to explain typical burning during passing urine (urethritis) or burning after passing urine (cystitis). There may be redness of urethral orifice, and/or other constitutional symptoms, and also history of pitta-provocation causes. 'Gokshur' is of course a herb-of-choice to treat urine symptoms. Gokshur helps balance pitta and vata. Gokshur increases urine output. This coupled with 'hima or phanta' of 'dhania and jeera' should take care of the problem. You can safely give basti of 20-50 cc of warm sesame oil to a 5 year old [with a pinch of salt added [as you know, oil basti is never given without salt, i.e., either saindhav or usual sea salt]. I had given 7 oil basties to a 2-year old child for weight loss due to chronic constipation. This almost emaciated child had pellets of stool palpable all over the transverse colon. The oil I used was chincha-lavan tail (tamarind pulp +salt boiled with groundnut oil). From 3rd day on she started passing the stool pellets. Her weight increased gradually after completion of this. Although oil basties are normally not to be given more than 3 in succession, this was a special case because the child was really dried up and her colon muscles were really weak. Dr Thite www.ayurvedicrx.com On 10/28/07, jivani luchau <jivanimark wrote: > > Dear Dr. Thite, > > I so thank you for sharing your experience with the > four year old mentioned below. > > I had a five year old come into my clinic last week > who has had recurrent urinary tract infections over > the past months. Parents are treating her > allopathically, but a friend of the family who is an > open-minded pediatrician recommended she see me for > craniosacral therapy. > > This young girl is squeezing and holding her bladder > so tight that it did not surprise me she's getting > infections. She is very fearful. The mother said > that when she tries to urinate during the day, only > very small amounts of urine ever pass and this only > with effort. Also I was told small amounts of urine > pass throughout the day into her panties. It seems > like anal suppository could benefit her, but I wantted > to know more before recommending it to the parents, > who are not used to anything other than allopathic. > > I recently did three nights of sesame oil basti and > was amazed at the relaxation and calm I felt in my > lower body. This was the first time I'd done a series > of oil basti, so am grateful to have recently had this > first hand experience. I can then imagine even more > how this potentially could be useful to this child. > > If anal suppositories would be recommended. Would you > also suggest warm sesame oil inserted with a sirenge? > How much oil? I was told to do 150cc for myself as a > small adult. > > I will be teaching the mother how to do massage on the > child this coming week, as she very positively > responded to touch. > > Your expertise and time are very much appreciated. > > Namaste, > > Kim Luchau > > --- cmthite <cmthite <cmthite%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > > I would like to share this experience with you. > > This is relatively > > very simple case but I think this would help to > > explain how we can > > use Ayurvedic principles to treat different > > conditions in day-to-day > > practice. > > > > Not exactly perinatal, but this case explains > > importance of a type of > > vata called apana vata. Main functions of apana > > vata are excretion > > of waste and also childbirth. Normal direction of > > apana vata is > > downwards. And therefore modalities such as > > anuloman (mild > > purgation), basti, and anal suppository helps > > regulate the function > > of apana vata. > > > > A 4-year-old girl was brought to me at 8.30 in the > > evening with the > > mother telling that she has not passed urine since > > last 24 hours. She > > has had diarrhea, fever, and vomiting since 3 days > > and was treated > > elsewhere for that with antibiotic and antiemetic. > > Fever subsided, > > but she was still throwing up. Diarrhea stopped but > > she had not > > passed any stool since the day before I saw her. The > > parents called > > the pediatrician who felt the anuria was due to > > dehydration and that > > the child may need admission and IV fluids. Although > > the parents had > > given her lots and lots of water and other fluids, > > but no urine > > still. When I saw the patient, she was alert and > > playful without any > > sign of dehydration with little abdominal > > distention. I asked them to > > stop all medications, stop pushing water, and I gave > > her little > > gokshur and yavakshar every hour to help her > > urinate. Nothing > > happened. Suspecting this was due to obstruction of > > apana vata, at > > 2.30 a.m. I decided to use anal suppository before > > giving her any > > basti treatment. This did the trick. She passed some > > stool and along > > with that she passed lot of urine and slept soundly > > afterwards. > > > > I have posted this elsewhere on the internet but I > > felt I should also > > share this with you. > > > > Dr Thite > > www.ayurvedicrx.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Dear Respected Dr. Thite, Thank you for your response and useful information. I spoke with the mother yesterday and received a little more information about the child. I will see her again tomorrow, so this conversation is timely. As far as the burning I do not know whether she experiences it or not. I will ask the mother, but as you say she may be too young to be able to report such a sensation. I did learn that she is very clingy to her mother and as I mentioned very fearful in general. I suggested the mother place a hot water bottle on her lower body for 10 -20 minutes each night as the child goes to bed, to help her soften and relax into the bladder region of her body. As you are now bringing my attention to urinary track infections being pitta conditions, I question my advice to the mother. Again, with her fear I feel the child squeezing her bladder, much like a scared dog holds its tail between its legs. If you have comment about whether the heat of a hot water bottle is not advised here, or have any other comments for that matter, I and the family would be most grateful. Sincerely, Kim Luchau --- cm thite <cmthite wrote: > Hello Kim Luchau, > Oil basti may help vata obstruction part of this > condition. But I suggest > you may also look for any pitta symptoms. I have > seen pitta predominance in > patients with bacterial infection - not as a rule > though. Child may not be > able to explain typical burning during passing urine > (urethritis) or burning > after passing urine (cystitis). There may be > redness of urethral orifice, > and/or other constitutional symptoms, and also > history of pitta-provocation > causes. > > 'Gokshur' is of course a herb-of-choice to treat > urine symptoms. Gokshur > helps balance pitta and vata. Gokshur increases > urine output. This coupled > with 'hima or phanta' of 'dhania and jeera' should > take care of the > problem. > > You can safely give basti of 20-50 cc of warm sesame > oil to a 5 year old > [with a pinch of salt added [as you know, oil basti > is never given without > salt, i.e., either saindhav or usual sea salt]. I > had given 7 oil basties > to a 2-year old child for weight loss due to chronic > constipation. This > almost emaciated child had pellets of stool palpable > all over the transverse > colon. The oil I used was chincha-lavan tail > (tamarind pulp +salt boiled > with groundnut oil). From 3rd day on she started > passing the stool > pellets. Her weight increased gradually after > completion of this. Although > oil basties are normally not to be given more than 3 > in succession, this was > a special case because the child was really dried up > and her colon muscles > were really weak. > > Dr Thite > www.ayurvedicrx.com > > > On 10/28/07, jivani luchau <jivanimark > wrote: > > > > Dear Dr. Thite, > > > > I so thank you for sharing your experience with > the > > four year old mentioned below. > > > > I had a five year old come into my clinic last > week > > who has had recurrent urinary tract infections > over > > the past months. Parents are treating her > > allopathically, but a friend of the family who is > an > > open-minded pediatrician recommended she see me > for > > craniosacral therapy. > > > > This young girl is squeezing and holding her > bladder > > so tight that it did not surprise me she's getting > > infections. She is very fearful. The mother said > > that when she tries to urinate during the day, > only > > very small amounts of urine ever pass and this > only > > with effort. Also I was told small amounts of > urine > > pass throughout the day into her panties. It seems > > like anal suppository could benefit her, but I > wantted > > to know more before recommending it to the > parents, > > who are not used to anything other than > allopathic. > > > > I recently did three nights of sesame oil basti > and > > was amazed at the relaxation and calm I felt in my > > lower body. This was the first time I'd done a > series > > of oil basti, so am grateful to have recently had > this > > first hand experience. I can then imagine even > more > > how this potentially could be useful to this > child. > > > > If anal suppositories would be recommended. Would > you > > also suggest warm sesame oil inserted with a > sirenge? > > How much oil? I was told to do 150cc for myself as > a > > small adult. > > > > I will be teaching the mother how to do massage on > the > > child this coming week, as she very positively > > responded to touch. > > > > Your expertise and time are very much appreciated. > > > > Namaste, > > > > Kim Luchau > > > > --- cmthite <cmthite > <cmthite%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > I would like to share this experience with you. > > > This is relatively > > > very simple case but I think this would help to > > > explain how we can > > > use Ayurvedic principles to treat different > > > conditions in day-to-day > > > practice. > > > > > > Not exactly perinatal, but this case explains > > > importance of a type of > > > vata called apana vata. Main functions of apana > > > vata are excretion > > > of waste and also childbirth. Normal direction > of > > > apana vata is > > > downwards. And therefore modalities such as > > > anuloman (mild > > > purgation), basti, and anal suppository helps > > > regulate the function > > > of apana vata. > > > > > > A 4-year-old girl was brought to me at 8.30 in > the > > > evening with the > > > mother telling that she has not passed urine > since > > > last 24 hours. She > > > has had diarrhea, fever, and vomiting since 3 > days > > > and was treated > > > elsewhere for that with antibiotic and > antiemetic. > > > Fever subsided, > > > but she was still throwing up. Diarrhea stopped > but > > > she had not > > > passed any stool since the day before I saw her. > The > > > parents called > > > the pediatrician who felt the anuria was due to > > > dehydration and that > > > the child may need admission and IV fluids. > Although > > > the parents had > > > given her lots and lots of water and other > fluids, > > > but no urine > > > still. When I saw the patient, she was alert and > > > playful without any > > > sign of dehydration with little abdominal > > > distention. I asked them to > > > stop all medications, stop pushing water, and I > gave > > > her little > > > gokshur and yavakshar every hour to help her > > > urinate. Nothing > > > happened. Suspecting this was due to obstruction > of > > > apana vata, at > > > 2.30 a.m. I decided to use anal suppository > before > > > giving her any > > > basti treatment. This did the trick. She passed > some > > > stool and along > > > with that she passed lot of urine and slept > soundly > > > afterwards. > > > > > > I have posted this elsewhere on the internet but > I > > > felt I should also > > > share this with you. > > > > > > Dr Thite > > > www.ayurvedicrx.com > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Don't take this too lightly!!! Maybe creating a more safe, nurturing and fun environment. Expressive games too: singing, drawing, etc. and lots of love, love, love, love. With good structure and routine. xo Patti -- Patti Garland Ayurvedic Chef and LifeStyle Coach Bliss Kitchen http://www.BlissKitchen.com (760) 902-7020 On Oct 29, 2007, at 9:22 AM, jivani luchau wrote: I did learn that she is very clingy to her mother and as I mentioned very fearful in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 does anyone have Louise Hay's book connection emotions to disease? Patti Garland Ayurvedic Chef and LifeStyle Coach Bliss Kitchen http://www.BlissKitchen.com (760) 902-7020 On Oct 29, 2007, at 9:22 AM, jivani luchau wrote: I did learn that she is very clingy to her mother and as I mentioned very fearful in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Patti, I appreciate this contribution. The child is the eldest of three and the mother is four months pregnant. From what I see the mom has little time for the older girl. The ideas of expressive games seem appropriate. Of course love is always useful as is good structure and routine. Namaskar, Kim --- Patti Garland <patti wrote: > Don't take this too lightly!!! > > Maybe creating a more safe, nurturing and fun > environment. Expressive > games too: singing, drawing, etc. > > and lots of love, love, love, love. With good > structure and routine. > > xo > Patti > -- > Patti Garland > Ayurvedic Chef and LifeStyle Coach > Bliss Kitchen > http://www.BlissKitchen.com > (760) 902-7020 > > > > On Oct 29, 2007, at 9:22 AM, jivani luchau wrote: > > I did learn that she is very clingy to her mother > and > as I mentioned very fearful in general. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Hi Patti; Mine is in storage, though I honor it as sometimes very helpful info to bring in emotional supports, essential oils etc related to possible issues in the mental/emotional sheath. Ysha > does anyone have Louise Hay's book connection emotions to disease? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Hello, I know it is really tricky and at times confusing to diagnose and treat such conditions. There is one test that we can perform in such conditions. This test is called upashay-anupashaya. This is nothing but performing a therapeutic measure and see the effect. If the effect is positive then your diagnosis is correct. E.g. - You can use the hot water bottle for a couple of days and see the effect. If she feels better, then there is more of Vata vitiation. This mild external treatment will certainly not hurt in any way. The 'fear factor' is definitely important in this case. Fear is both cause and result of vata vitiation. I agree with Patti regarding this. Sometimes spasmodic contraction of bladder and urethral sphincter muscles results due to pain while passing urine and pressure (straining) will only worsen the condition. Also, and most importantly, there may be a combination of both vata and pitta. If it is so, then we must treat both – one by one. The chronicity of this problem suggests combination of doshas (even some bad kapha also may be present). Presence of two vitiated doshas at a time is called as 'sansarga. The following guidelines may be used to treat such conditions. These guidelines are mentioned in the text Charak samhita commentary. 1. Common properties: ' Pacification of both doshas is done by using foods and medications with properties that are commonly opposite for each of the two. Eg. If vata and kapha are both increased, you can use hot diet, because both kapha and vata are 'cold' in property. 2. Sequence: When two doshas are present, we should pacify the predominant dosha first and then take care of the other dosha. 3. Let one dosha to increase: We can allow one dosha to increase for some time and when the other one is pacified, take care of the increased dosha later. Dr Thite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Hello Kim Luchau I read your discusiion on UTI of a pediatric patient. Probably the following things can help her out. 1. Warm Tub bath in Saindhav Jal ( if not to irritating) or Decoction (Kashayam) of Triphala, Darvi & Yashtimadhu. 2. As Told by Dr. C M Thite - Medicinal Water of Dhanyak, Jeerak + Shadangodak (Used in Jwar) can help her a lot if the infection is chronic. 3. With medicatio, Local Treatment it is also necessary to observe strict food habits. Though she has pain it is seen many times that not only vata dosha is responsible it may be due to Avrodha in its gati due to other Dosha. If she has severe pain parishek (Dhara) for specific Decoction(Kwath) can be used. VAIDYA TUSHAR SURYAVANSHI VISHVAGANDHA CHIKITSAKENDRA & AYURVEDA HOSPITAL NASHIK email - vishwa_ayur/ vishwa_ayur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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