removing petrochemical pollutants

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It is becoming increasingly well known that the incidence of

environmental especially petrochemically based pollutants is so very

high and dangerous. More important than just what is creating how

much problem, we need to be supporting removal and educating to avoid

contact. The scientists can go on for years while the accumulations

showing up in babies, even in children or adults years since exposed

to certain banned chemicals, has been stored and is a living toxic

waste dump asking for trouble.

 

We know from Ayurveda the safest and by far most effective way to

remove these environmental petrochemicals is with organic clarified

butter and the various panchakarma cleansing methods. Those in touch

with the science community can encouraging testing while the rest of

us can just go ahead and make the changes! This can be facilitated

even in pregnancy and early postpartum attending to agni (digestive

fires) with kitchen herbals, and increasing especially clarified

butter or other suitable healthy fats in the diet.

 

Any other ideas undoubtedly most welcome here.

 

Ysha

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Heavy metals can be removed through far infrared heat.

Devices emitting such heat come in the form of

saunas, hothouse arches that a person lies under and

special heating pads. It seems these would likely

also help the body detox petrochemicals. Such devices

are useful for adults, but I question their safety for

little ones, especially newborns.

 

Just some thoughts. I would love to hear from others

about their knowledge, as this is a big concern.

 

warm regards,

Kim Luchau

now in Kauai, Hawaii from Boulder, Colorado

about the reopen a craniosacral therapy practice for

newborns and young children.

808.822.4644

 

 

--- Ysha Oakes <AyurDoulas wrote:

 

> Science Byte: Environmental chemicals can

> interfere with brain

> development during critical periods, thereby

> impacting sensory, motor,

> and cognitive function. But establishing cause and

> effect in people is

> a research nightmare. Regulation in the US

> essentially requires proof

> of harm rather than proof of safety.

> Interdisciplinary scientific

> exploration is essential to address this significant

> public and mental

> health threat. American Psychologist. 5 May 2005.

> More... [related

> stories] [subscription Required]

>

> It is becoming increasingly well known that the

> incidence of

> environmental especially petrochemically based

> pollutants is so very

> high and dangerous. More important than just what

> is creating how

> much problem, we need to be supporting removal and

> educating to avoid

> contact. The scientists can go on for years while

> the accumulations

> showing up in babies, even in children or adults

> years since exposed

> to certain banned chemicals, has been stored and is

> a living toxic

> waste dump asking for trouble.

>

> We know from Ayurveda the safest and by far most

> effective way to

> remove these environmental petrochemicals is with

> organic clarified

> butter and the various panchakarma cleansing

> methods. Those in touch

> with the science community can encouraging testing

> while the rest of

> us can just go ahead and make the changes! This can

> be facilitated

> even in pregnancy and early postpartum attending to

> agni (digestive

> fires) with kitchen herbals, and increasing

> especially clarified

> butter or other suitable healthy fats in the diet.

>

> Any other ideas undoubtedly most welcome here.

>

> Ysha

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Ysha, how would we use the ghee (clarified butter), and how much a day would it

take to make a difference as far as metal removal. I had a recipe once, can't

findit, that included brazil nuts, cilantro, garlic...and..?

Vicky York, IBCLC, CPD

Postpartum Care Services

Portland/Eugene

http://mypeoplepc.com/members/vmyork/

http://vmyork.ikarma.com

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Kim can you say more about hothouse arches, and special heating pads. Where are

these heating pads found? I had a hair analysis done once that said I had way

too much of all the metals especially aluminum, even though I never drink sodas,

wasn't any real reason to believe it was true. The testers were selling

something to eliminate the metals but it was expensive. I didn't believe it, but

it would be good to know about prevention/removal remedies that westerners can

do.

Vicky York, IBCLC, CPD

Postpartum Care Services

Portland/Eugene

http://mypeoplepc.com/members/vmyork/

http://vmyork.ikarma.com

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Kim;

The infrared sauna feels wonderful, I really felt it was deeply

beneficial when experiencing 2 or 3 sessions, but agree about

children. Not sure wisdom of using this before doing the panchakarma

however, unless along with would be very good in my limited education.

The value of detoxing with the PK we call it as I understand in this

discussion, is that the fats are particularly important to neutralize

and buffer the body from becoming resensitized to petrochemical

pollutants getting back the functional systems. So ushering them out

most safely. I do not know enough about this far infrared technology

to discuss its effect here as a cleansing/detox method on its own.

Opinion is should be used in conjuncton with other methods.

 

Also understanding that babies receive thru maternal fats these type

of toxins, so use of organic fats, good supply of them also, is

valuable, and of course, such cleansing before pregnancy and after 6-8

weeks postpartum, gentle versions even while nursing can be done.

 

Actually, because the infrared heats deeply, it probably does help

loosen toxins in fat tissue also. Do you have one? I have not read

the literature on it. A friend traded with me at one point, and the

vata pacification was powerful. I would not use for babies or

children, too many questions, without good documentation.

 

Warm Regards;

Ysha

>

> Heavy metals can be removed through far infrared heat.

> Devices emitting such heat come in the form of

> saunas, hothouse arches that a person lies under and

> special heating pads. It seems these would likely

> also help the body detox petrochemicals. Such devices

> are useful for adults, but I question their safety for

> little ones, especially newborns.

[Guest guest]

Hi Vicki;

Petrochemical pollutants are not the same as metal toxicity, though

perhaps the body stores them similarly, unknown info to me. Posts are

to invite sharing by all who may know or wish to. But the question as

Ayurveda looks at it is more about at what pace and dosage and

sometimes, which fat and other substance, does your body comfortably

and wisely release these things.

 

This is why particularly if you are not just doing it prophylactically

at the change of seasons when the body is already in transition, but

for some known need like your metal testing, it is wise to take both

the guidance of ayurvedic practitioner who knows the 7 layers and 3

doshic pulses wherein info is found to which tissue and system is out

of balance in which direction, and what this means for detox

proceedures at this season. as well as what protocol is best for

aluminum, which we also have to invite other members to offer guidance

about.

 

Dr. Bhate, of course we look to your expertise, which much has again

been discussed on the ayurveda forum. Nancy Phillips, Ayrvedic

practitioner in Chicago shared some supports for aluminum removal not

in memory banks here. Email privately and I'll refer, if you will

share when you connect?

 

That said, Dr. Lad's simple version of home cleanse is found in his

very useful Ayurvedic Home Remedies book or the variations I learned

on it are available in emailable document, several pages. It is

possible it is posted in files, if not don't let me forget...time to

visit with my oldest son while he visits now.

 

Oh, that recipe also I will resend/post, it is among similar and some

much simpler for supporting mercury removal and immune strength,

delicious. To what extent it works depends as always I expect also on

good elimination in bowel, hydration, etc. ME release, however, is

measured in the urine.

 

Step by step...we cannot expect it all at once, nor is it safe that

way. But Dr. G Young has amazing urine output within a few hours

increasing over few days time then falling off, using an essential oil

blend of helichrysum, ledum and hmm, celery seed in capsules. Have not

had time to follow up on phase two of this project. not sure the last

oil in that list but found at www.youngliving.com, blend is named Juva

Cleanse. (where referring member is needed to order). Very

expensive, until you look at what people pay for hospital bills or

clinical chelation thereapies.

 

Warmly;

Ysha

 

> Ysha, how would we use the ghee (clarified butter), and how much a

day would it take to make a difference as far as metal removal. I had

a recipe once, can't findit, that included brazil nuts, cilantro,

garlic...and..?

> Vicky York, IBCLC, CPD

[Guest guest]

My understanding of how petrochemical pollutants and heavy metals reside in

the body is that they are stored in the fatty tissues of the body. They are

not water-soluble and thus cannot be flushed out in the urine. Michel

Odent, an amazing French obstetrician, has written about this in his book,

" Primal Health " in terms of how these toxins become " uterine pollution " and

greatly affect our babies before they are even born, then continue to affect

them through the breastmilk (which of course is rich in fats). There was an

article not too long ago that acknowledged the existence of breastmilk

pollution, but fortunately, the bottom line was that the benefits of

breastfeeding still greatly outweigh the risks.

 

Dr. Odent proposed that to remove the fat-soluble toxins, one must mobilize

the lipids into the bloodstream and then sweat them out. His untested

theory includes a program of fasting and sweating for a few days every month

for several months. There is currently no research that supports or refutes

his theory, unfortunately.

 

It makes sense that ghee would be an excellent " lipid mobilizer " , although I

don't know whether this would draw the lipids into the bloodstream or into

the intestines...? In either case, it seems like it would have to be

excreted in the feces or in the sweat, right?

 

I'm fascinated by the possibilities of cleaning up this bodily pollution

prior to conception, and I'm grateful for this discussion topic to be coming

around again.

 

--

Wendy Hughes, CPM, LDM

Professional Home Birth Midwife

Vivante Midwifery

Portland, OR

www.VivanteMidwifery.com

 

 

On 3/17/07, Ysha Oakes <AyurDoulas wrote:

>

>

> Step by step...we cannot expect it all at once, nor is it safe that

> way. But Dr. G Young has amazing urine output within a few hours

> increasing over few days time then falling off, using an essential oil

> blend ...

>

>

>

 

 

 

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Hi Ysha and group,

 

Thank you for your responses. Yes, I recently

acquired a far infrared " hothouse " by HTE. You could

google HTE hothouse for various websites discussions

its medical benefits. It is an arch shaped device

that I lie under for 15 minutes per day (some use it

longer). This device is convenient, rather small and

less pricey than an entire sauna. So far the response

from adult clients is very positive.

 

Personally, a few words about my experience: I find

the relaxing and vata calming affects very powerful

and gentle. Generally I go to sleep withing minutes,

which is a rare response for me. Like you say, it

feels deeply beneficial. I find the heat to be very

gently penetrating the tissue. My breasts tend

towards lots of fibrocystic lumps and within three

treatments they had significantly decreased. I've now

only been using the device for a week and have tried

applying castor oil to my breasts with the treatment

with excellent results.

 

In consulting with my ayurvedic practitioner she

concurred that this is very vata pacifying, but that

not over using it would be important.

I so appreciate what you mention in regards to pancha

karma and perhaps using it in conjunction with far

infrared technology. I want more information about

both.

 

In purchasing the hothouse I became a distributor, so

could help anyone purchase one if they are interested.

However, I will add that my knowledge of pancha karma

and detox is limited. Yet, I do know enough to know

that working with someone knowledgeable is important

so that the pathways of detoxification are watched and

tended to appropriately.

 

Without more knowledge, I would never use such a

device on children or infants. Treatment on mothers

pre-pregnancy makes lots of sense as does her use

post-partum beyond the first 42 day range.

 

Thanks again for the discussion on this important

matter.

 

with respect and love,

 

Kim Luchau

Craniosacral Therapist

Specializing in infants and children

Phone 808.822.4644 in Hawaii

 

--- Ysha Oakes <AyurDoulas wrote:

 

> Hi Kim;

> The infrared sauna feels wonderful, I really felt it

> was deeply

> beneficial when experiencing 2 or 3 sessions, but

> agree about

> children. Not sure wisdom of using this before

> doing the panchakarma

> however, unless along with would be very good in my

> limited education.

> The value of detoxing with the PK we call it as I

> understand in this

> discussion, is that the fats are particularly

> important to neutralize

> and buffer the body from becoming resensitized to

> petrochemical

> pollutants getting back the functional systems. So

> ushering them out

> most safely. I do not know enough about this far

> infrared technology

> to discuss its effect here as a cleansing/detox

> method on its own.

> Opinion is should be used in conjuncton with other

> methods.

>

> Also understanding that babies receive thru maternal

> fats these type

> of toxins, so use of organic fats, good supply of

> them also, is

> valuable, and of course, such cleansing before

> pregnancy and after 6-8

> weeks postpartum, gentle versions even while nursing

> can be done.

>

> Actually, because the infrared heats deeply, it

> probably does help

> loosen toxins in fat tissue also. Do you have one?

> I have not read

> the literature on it. A friend traded with me at

> one point, and the

> vata pacification was powerful. I would not use for

> babies or

> children, too many questions, without good

> documentation.

>

> Warm Regards;

> Ysha

> >

> > Heavy metals can be removed through far infrared

> heat.

> > Devices emitting such heat come in the form of

> > saunas, hothouse arches that a person lies under

> and

> > special heating pads. It seems these would likely

> > also help the body detox petrochemicals. Such

> devices

> > are useful for adults, but I question their safety

> for

> > little ones, especially newborns.

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear Vicky,

 

I just responded to Ysha about the far infrared

devices and will continue with more information to

you.

 

The hothouse arch is what I have been using in my

practice and on myself personally. I find it reduces

pain and inflammation. Emotionally many are feeling

calmed and soothed. People, myself included, are

deeply rested and comforted by using the hothouse

arch.

 

In doing research before purchasing it I found the

company HTE, a Japanese company, had the hothouse that

was most reasonably priced and the size was very

convenient for personal and professional use. It

retails for $899, plus tax and shipping, but there are

sometimes sales reducing the price.

 

As I mentioned to Ysha, I did become a distributor

with HTE in order to make this purchase. Anyone

interested could contact me via email or phone or

contact the company directly with my distributor

number A161486 and purchase from them directly by

giving them my number and/or signing up themselves

under me. Your first purchase as a distributor does

not give you a rebate, but any subsequent sales would

entitle you to one. Their website is

www.hteamericas.com. Look under " hothouse " for

information. Their discription and photos are very

useful.

 

As far as the special heating pads. I was at a health

expo recently here in Kauai and saw a couple of

practitioners with body length far infrared heating

pads. I could help anyone make contact with these

practitioners, if this is of further interest.

 

Personally I prefer the hothouse arch. I find it very

womb-like. One client recently was going through a

very vulnerable time and the hothouse created safety

and soothing. It is like crawling in a little

tent....very vata pacifying.

 

I can imagine children and babies would also love it,

but without further information on its safety and a

specific protocol as to the length of time it could be

used, I would not feel right to recommend it to this

audience. For the rest of us, however, it supports us

so that we can further support the little ones,

whether that is in the area of detoxification, rest,

or emotional calming.

 

I am inspired to do more research about using the

hothouse for children. Should I find anything that

may be of interest to this group I will let you know.

 

Another point about the hothouse vs a sauna. As in

ayurvedic recommendations to not heat the head, I find

that keeping the head out of the heat seems very

appropriate. Again, the price of the hothouse is more

manageable for most as well, compared to a sauna.

 

with respect and love,

 

Kim Luchau

Craniosacral Therapist

Specializing in infants and children

Phone: 808.822.4644 in Hawaii

 

 

--- VMYORK wrote:

 

> Kim can you say more about hothouse arches, and

> special heating pads. Where are these heating pads

> found? I had a hair analysis done once that said I

> had way too much of all the metals especially

> aluminum, even though I never drink sodas, wasn't

> any real reason to believe it was true. The testers

> were selling something to eliminate the metals but

> it was expensive. I didn't believe it, but it would

> be good to know about prevention/removal remedies

> that westerners can do.

> Vicky York, IBCLC, CPD

> Postpartum Care Services

> Portland/Eugene

> http://mypeoplepc.com/members/vmyork/

> http://vmyork.ikarma.com

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Wendy, this is very interesting. Good to see that you have joined this group,

you always have interesting comments on other groups you are one. Vicky

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Aw, thanks Vicky. I've been lurking here for quite a while, soaking it all

up... :-)

 

 

On 3/19/07, VMYORK <VMYORK wrote:

>

> Wendy, this is very interesting. Good to see that you have joined this

> group, you always have interesting comments on other groups you are one.

> Vicky

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Wendy;

Whether or not the mercury resides in fat - hopefully others will

chime in on that - this JuvaCleanse product gives amazing results, and

it is measured medically as a urinary output. Perhaps the essentila

oils, being much smaller molecules/more volatile, have something to do

with that too, I can't contribute much there without taking time not

currently avail to arrange an interview.

 

> " Primal Health " in terms of how these toxins become " uterine

pollution " and greatly affect our babies before they are even born,

then continue to affect them through the breastmilk (which of course

is rich in fats).

 

I " m sure Odent is right about their accumulation and toxicity as I

understand they tend to go into what we call the deeper tissues, even

to reproductive ( " deepest " of the digestive processes).

 

> article not too long ago that acknowledged the existence of

breastmilk pollution, but fortunately, the bottom line was that the

benefits of breastfeeding still greatly outweigh the risks.

 

Definitely, and fortunately buys us the kind of grace Ma Nature shows

us in so many ways to learn how to care for ourselves and each other

better " next time " !

 

> Dr. Odent proposed that to remove the fat-soluble toxins, one must

mobilize the lipids into the bloodstream and then sweat them out. His

untested theory includes a program of fasting and sweating for a few

days every month for several months. There is currently no research

that supports or refutes his theory, unfortunately.

 

sounds pretty well thought out, but how many will do the fasting, and

some body types shouldn't do the western natural medicine ideas of

fasting. Perhaps it goes out better/more safely utilizing lymph

(which gets the fats dumped into it after liver) and bowel, or these

multiple pathways to keep it low dose? Hmm, isn't it lymph that

secretes sweat?

 

I understand that the fat tissue also stores and neutralize acidic

toxins. When people do many of the weight loss programs and loose

weight quickly, they tend to put it back on quickly too, as the body

has mobilized those toxins and is not properly eliminating or

buffering the system from them, so they get restored the way it knows

to. That's without discussing high stress lifestyle and cortisol

impact, et al.

>

> It makes sense that ghee would be an excellent " lipid mobilizer " ,

although I don't know whether this would draw the lipids into the

bloodstream or into the intestines...? In either case, it seems like

it would have to be excreted in the feces or in the sweat, right?

 

I " m sure sweating also helps remove. The skin is what, third major

organ of elimination? As a therapy alone, I wonder. It is one of the

therapies used in Ayurvedic panchakarma, even in home version if in

form of simple hot baths after self oil-massage and before basti

(herbalized oil or water based rectal administrations in alternation

often) daily for a few days (which we do AFTER several days of

internal oleation on a simplified but not fasting diet). The oleation

helps both bowel and skin eliminate more safely, right?

>

> I'm fascinated by the possibilities of cleaning up this bodily

pollution prior to conception, and I'm grateful for this discussion

topic to be coming around again.

 

Yes! We can all see much more work will be needed in the future in

this area!

 

Warm Regards;

Ysha

[Guest guest]

Hi Kim;

Thanks for sharing this info. Some people offer theirs as a part of

their spa/health services to others, just wanted to make sure that was

clear for those of us who can't see purchasing one.

>

> Without more knowledge, I would never use such a

> device on children or infants.

 

Perhaps the careful advice not to expose the neck and head is part of

the reason, and the powerful radiant technology. I really don't

understand this technology or any possible risks, just loved it and,

like in a sauna, stayed in longer than the recommended time.

 

For babies we use a very large flat warm/hot water bottle covered by a

towel, which they can lay on during infant oil massage or any other

time. Smaller ones also available. The company is Fomantek, though

purchase online retail is more than from Joanne Poole, see the

www.sacredwindow.com website. Babies love it, so do the moms, it is

guaranteed to hold up to 400 lbs! We use it on the massage table

during postpartum mother's abhyanga (warm oil application) and they

get a very valuable radiant warmth treatment that way.

 

PS, a reminder to all and new members especially, kindly delete extra

text when you can. Some members print out the digests and it takes a

lot of extra paper.

 

Warm Regards;

Ysha