Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 This is from WildHarvest, a large group of people using theraputic grade organic essential oils - thought you would be interested to see how they deal without " Ayurveda " . - Ysha Silvia Huete wrote: Hello everyone, I just returned from a prayer vigil at my church and one of the ladies shared with us the anxiety she's going through because she's ~3 mos pregnant and has been bleeding on and off since the beginning. Her doctor told her that the baby is developping alright but for whatever reason, her uterus is weak (and it was not supossed to hold the pregnancy to beging with; however, she has not lost the baby until now... ). How can I help her to stop the bleeding/strengthen her uterus with the oils? Does anyone any have suggestions? Thank you in advance, Silvia Huete Jeffrey Kaplan, RN wrote: Dr. Young's formula for bleeding: 20 drops of Helichrysum and 20 drops of Cistus, mixed in with a one ounce packet of Ningxia Red. Cayenne, or tumeric powder taken internally, mixed with water, or Ningxia Red. Take orally. Jeff I used Geranium to help stop bleeding and then helichrysum to help dissolve the blood clot that formed between the placenta and the wall of the uterus on one edge. I cramped and bled with every pregnancy but 1 and I have 9 children! I put these oils right on the uterus and on the reflex below the inside of the ankle. Let me know what you do and how it works. Make the day great and SHINE! Kathaleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 There was a similar situation with a 13 week pg mom. here are the authors post on some other list: > I am 11.5 wks PG. this morning at 1 am blood started dripping/flowing out of me. we went > right to the ER. No clots, just red blood. Lost a lot. Cervix is thick and closed. Ultrasound > showed baby beating at 173. Dr. mentioned risk of me hemmoraging (sp?) or miscarrying... Central Nervous System including immune system acts in top most gear during pregnancy. Accordingly most of us have experienced that most disease conditions remain suppressed during pregnancy, since super power is taking care of the new soul getting born. Ayurveda considers menstrual blood as " mala " of blood, to be discharged out to maintain the purity and vitality of blood. Therefore, one of the Panchkarma is " blood letting " through leeches sucking impure blood or letting out the blood by surgical wound. But author prefers leech therapy since leeches NEVER, like mosquitoes, suck pure blood. they like impure blood only. Combine this with the fact that slight spotting or menstrual flow gives plenty relief after the end of cycle. Blood is soil, accordiong to Dr Hamer, the doctor who studied more than 40,000 cancer case and cured quite a substatial ones. When a new soul is to be catered, soil must be pure, be it pharming or pregnancy. Hence it has been noted that whenever spotting or flow occurs during pregnancy, body is trying to purify soil. Only one condition..blood flow must not be accompanied by pain. Pain means either endometriosis or ectopic pregnancy/miscarriage. The chances of latter are ruled out after 7th week or so. Hence, do not worry. Ayurvedist would have given you some tablet to limit the outflow but not stop it altogether. What is occuring is for good of the baby. Soak 4-6 dates or 12-15 raisins in a cup of water overnight and drink water next morning. Chew dates or raisins to re- establish Hb levels quickly. Dates and raisins are not sugar, they are glycosugars made by God, not mannatech(brandname Ambotose)! This author's diabetic patients also happily take dates/raisins and their craving for sugar slolwy vanishes! Author has crossed the boundaries with the proper interpretation of ayurvedic texts, the reasons why sugar craving comes are also explained here> http://health.ayurveda/message/6632 Ayurvedic suppliments include the jams made from raisins to boost iron as well as give resistance to profuse blood flow. Have platellate levels been checked by dr.? But remember the mantra...just blood flood nothing to worry, if there is pain, then there is something worth worrying. The bleding is many a time asumed to be caused by hypospadia. The agents that have caused hypospadias in a small number of boys have been maternal use of synthetic progestins and finasteride in the first two trimesters of pregnancy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypospadias Problems of synthetic progestins are well documented; however, author has seen that natural progesterone sources are harmless. For more than milenium, ayurveda has been recommending " Garhbhpal Ras " , a herbo-mineral formulation which supports placenta secreting adequate progesterone. Author has been recommending it throught the gestation. In addition, " Phal Ghrut " a rich nutrient made from cow ghee, which causes secretion of progesterone from ovaries as well as placenta, in addition to strengthening the ovaries, has been recommended in ayurvedic text " Ashtang Hridya " , one of the three prominent texts: Charak Samhita, Sushrut Samhita and Astang Hridya (They are termed Brihatrayi collectively). Author has given it to several prenatal moms and has seen that it leads not only to healthy but medium weight baby. The baby has no risk of obesity or mom having risk of gestational diabetes. The reason is of course omega-3 fats, glycoproetins contents of the Phal Ghruta. Together, the two formulations ensure that there will be neither miscarriage nor intermittant spotting bleeding. When coupled with bastis of ayurvedic panch karma in last 3 weeks of gestation, several first time moms have delivered normally(VB), in say less than six hours after admission! This situation, though looks like utopian, it is from India, where organic veggies and fruits are still available and there is not much medication of synthetic vitamins and capsules during pregnancy. placental attachment issues occur when progesterone is insufficient! http://health.ayurveda/message/6650 Progesterone, responsible for regular ovulation, cycles and protecting the fetus, gets produced in more quantity by alkaline food, satvic food and glycosugars which are all good contributors: http://health.ayurveda/message/6729 Few studies indicate progesterone deficiency threatens miscarriage. And in most cases of subchorionic hematoma, the progesterone has been administered. see following online sources. However, author presents a little of other side too! a comforting fact is subchorionic hematoma does not increase the risks of miscarriage! 1. My doctor suggested bedrest, Utrogestan pills (micronized progesteron 3 * 100 mg / day http://experts.about.com/q/ObGyn-Pregnancy-issues-1007/Subchorionic- hematoma-Utrogestan.htm 2. He's given me progesterone just in case http://experts.about.com/q/ObGyn-Pregnancy-issues-1007/Concerned- symptoms-spotting.htm 3. The progesterone may help to maintain. uterine quiescence and may also have beneficial ... an unusual case of pre-placental and subchorionic hematoma, patient received IM-17 alpha-hydroxyprogesterone caproate (proluton), a natural metabolite of progesterone. There have been no previous reports on the use of this in patients with placental hematomas, although it has been shown to be effective in preventing recurrent preterm deliveries. read interesting paper at: http://www.sma.org.sg/smj/4712/4712cr2.pdf 4. Relationship between progesterone levels and miscarriage risk: Adelusi B, Dada OA. Use of progesterone and estradiol levels to predict the outcome of pregnancies in cases of threatened abortion. East Afric Med J 1983;60:323-7. 5. Subchorionic hematoma occured at 6.5 weeks, was put on progesterone and by 14th week it was gone, a message posted by pregnant lady on 11-12-2006 at http://www.twinsmagazine.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=52886 6. The use of progesterone was effective both on pain relief and on the frequency of the UCs that decreased after 5 days of vaginal progesterone administration (P < 0.005). The evaluation of the ongoing pregnancy and spontaneous abortion in both study groups after 60 days showed that 4 patients of group A and 8 patients of group B miscarried (P < 0.05). In conclusion, patients with threatened abortion benefit from vaginal progesterone by a reduction of UCs and pain. The use of vaginal progesterone improved the outcome of pregnancies complicated by threatened abortion and previous diagnosis of inadequate luteal phase. http://www.annalsnyas.org/cgi/content/abstract/1034/1/200 6. Despite several case reported, there is no complte agreement on use of progesterone. Although bed rest and progesterone supplements are often advised, little evidence supports their effectiveness Give anti-Rh D immune globulin to non-sensitised women with symptoms near, at, or after 12 gestational weeks paper in British Medical Journal, 2004;329:152-155 (17 July), doi:10.1136/bmj.329.7458.152 [Author suspects that reluctance to administer progesterone is because it is synthetic] 7. There is controversial information on using Prometrium in a normal pregnancy. In IVF it has shown to work, because women who have IFV receive many different hormones requiring additional progesterone. But in a normal pregnancy it has not been conclusively shown that it decreases the risk of a miscarriage. http://www.webmd.com/content/article/53/61356.htm Many more papers can be indicated, but author is not interested in consuming more bandwidth on a discussion list like this. So that is modern science. all papers/experiences cited here are about synthetic progesterone! With herbal progesterone you will find nothing in libraries or net. The reasons is, alternative science is not so sophisticated or organised or sponsored by sellers. no body is interested in publishing experience other than those who feel world should be freed from drug mafia! This author gives herbs which balance progesterone if less. If adequate, the herbs are ineffective and do not cause any discomfort. Progesterone suppliment is made using certain fruits and herbs, boiled in cow ghee. Hence the mom is always protected. The protective properties of cow ghee can be found in ayurveda, not in published journals. It is one product west has never studied. only germans are taking some interest. they have taken 12 indian cows to germany! Many of the fruits and seeds, when soaked, they have different effects on the body, as discussed in ayurvedic terms. E.g. items such as dates, raisins, tamarind are warming when eaten in as available condition. but when soaked overnight, their net effect on the body changes. these " warmin " or pitta enhancing foods become pitta reducing, blood purifying and cooling foods. Dates and raisins increase Haemoglobin levels fastest amongst all " iron " rich foods. All seeds when soaked start gerinating and release vitamins and enzymes specific to each case. e.g. cancer patients who find flaxseeds difficult to chew along with cheese in " Budwig " protocol, they are advised to soak the flaxseeds and just take soaked water next morning. And another such seeds is " fenugreek " where only soaked water acts as not only a " galactogauge " but also helpful to reduce insulin resiatnce. and fenugreek, though normally warming and vata pacifier in postnatal period, when soaked, its water acts differently Ayurveda is the only healing science which has gone indepth into effect of each grain, legume, vegetable, fruit, seeds on our body. Being ancient, only literature you will find is some recent (last 20- 30 years) published papers to obtain MD and exceptionally PhD. The regular university teaching started just some 20-25 years ago in India. Till that time it was Guru-Disciple relation that continued the tradition. The relation between fetus protecting tendency of progesteron, also blood coagulant slightly and ayurvedic medicines which promote higher secretion of progesterone is through certain herbs and fruis such as dates and raisin. raisins are also leading to fetus protection, but only when soaked and taken. Take dates or raisin soaked for a few days at breakfast time yourself and see the effect on your own body. Ayurveda pays keen attention to smallest details of food consumption and medicine administration. Dates loose most of their sweet taste when one soaks them overnight. You get that sugar only if you drink soaked water too. Same thing about raisins also. When ther is a blood loss, one needs quickly both sugar and something which can be converted to blood fast. Raisins soaked should be chewed and taken. Whenever there is bleeding, vomits in first trimester, dates/raisins soaked is recommended. Why dates raisins become useful to restore Haemoglobin is answered here, in connection with Hair-loss: http://health.ayurveda/message/2263 For westerners Vitex is most recommended: Some info on vitex: http://www.healthy.net/scr/article.asp?ID=1646 http://www.gentlebirth.org/archives/herbs.html " I just recently tried vitex with a woman with suspected low progesterone levels. She was bleeding in early pregnancy (7 weeks) and was suffering migraine headaches. I did some lab work to determine if her progesterone levels were in fact low, and they were quite low. She took the vitex for a couple of weeks, along with wild yam and 2% cream, and the headaches and bleeding stopped within a day. We just got heart tones last week, at 9 weeks. A local herbalist explained it as a pituitary stimulant. I recommended Vitex to a client who had a 9-week SA, and was doing some bleeding which was not only heavy but lasted for way longer than we were happy with. It did wonders for the bleeding, but she said the infusion tasted like dirt. Vitex also works well for women with luteal phase defects and infertility. Milewisz A., Et al Vitex Agnus castus extract in the treatment of luteal phase defects due to latent hyperprolactinemia. Results of a double-blind study. Arzneimittelforschung, 43(7):752-6 1993 Jul Clinical study of 52 women with luteal phase defects due to latent prolactinemia. Statistically significant changes were seen in the group taking the vitex extract. The prolactin release was reduced after 3 months, shortened luteal phases were normalized and deficits in the luteal progesterone synthesis were eliminated. There were also 3 pregnancys. IN conclusion, These are suggestions for consideration by you and your health care professional, not prescriptions for curing any disease. 1. Garbhpal Ras 2 Tabs, 125 mg each, crush in honey and take 1/2 hour after lunch and dinner. This is classical formulation you will find in ayurvedic text Yog Ratnakara. The name itself means it takes care of baby in womb. 2. Phal Ghrut: 1 tsp in half cup warm mil, after breakfast and at bed time. The info about this you will find in file " Medicine_chest.doc " stored in " Files " section of group ayurveda. This is medicated ghee (Clarified butter), it is also uterine tonic. Will take care of curing scars too, if there are during c-section. This is a special ghee for uterus and ovaries. For curing scars external on body ayurveda offers another ghrut. The file itself was made so that Indians residing in U.S.A. should know which medicines should be taken while going from India, so that they can use in emergency. 3. Lastly, if you wish to stop bleeding urgently> Shonitargal Ras: 2 Tabs taken in the same manner as Garbhpal Ras. These are not to be taken for more than a week. Author used this in several cases of endometriosis and menorrhagia along with other medicines. In ayurveda Shonit means the embryo in first trimester only. that is why the name shonitargal ras. This one increases clotting tendency, increases platellates, so the blood flow comes under control quickly and stops. This author experience says the flow should stop in just 2-3 days, but he recommends to take for two more days, but not exceeding 8 days. The medicine would not stop the miscarriage, however, if uterus wishes to expel the baby. see: The formulations described herein may be available from all- ayurveda.com or Banyan-botanicals.com You may have to search them online. ayurveda , " Ysha Oakes " <AyurDoulas wrote: > > This is from WildHarvest, a large group of people using theraputic > grade organic essential oils - thought you would be interested to see > how they deal without " Ayurveda " . - Ysha > > Silvia Huete wrote: > Hello everyone, > I just returned from a prayer vigil at my church and one of the ladies > shared with us the anxiety she's going through because she's ~3 mos > pregnant and has been bleeding on and off since the beginning. Her > doctor told her that the baby is developping alright but for whatever > reason, her uterus is weak (and it was not supossed to hold the > pregnancy to beging with; however, she has not lost the baby until > now... ). How can I help her to stop the bleeding/strengthen her > uterus with the oils? Does anyone any have suggestions? > > Thank you in advance, > Silvia Huete > > Jeffrey Kaplan, RN wrote: > Dr. Young's formula for bleeding: 20 drops of Helichrysum and 20 drops > of Cistus, mixed in with a one ounce packet of Ningxia Red. Cayenne, > or tumeric powder taken internally, mixed with water, or Ningxia Red. > > Take orally. > Jeff > > I used Geranium to help stop bleeding and then helichrysum to help > dissolve the blood clot that formed between the placenta and the wall > of the uterus on one edge. I cramped and bled with every pregnancy but > 1 and I have 9 children! I put these oils right on the uterus and on > the reflex below the inside of the ankle. > > Let me know what you do and how it works. > Make the day great and SHINE! > > Kathaleen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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