Csection rate in the news

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Your baby is big, the uterus may rupture, you may have to go through

episiotomy etc are the standard opinions which push a would-be-mom to

C-section. But what makes baby big?

 

The sky rocketting C-section rate does not surprise this author. The

first person causing this is pregnant mom! surprised?

 

" We must first wonder how and when the systems that regulate our

appetite and our capacity to store fat adjust themselves and reach

their `set point levels'. In general, in the field of health, we

should first be concerned with the programming of our biological

computers during the primal period of life " , says Michel Odent, MD at:

 

http://www.wombecology.com/obesity.html

 

babies born heavier are also likely victims of obesity, diabetes,

pcos, CHD etc, later in life. Programming of obesity from before

birth will result in an inter-generational cycle of obesity. We need

to stop infants from becoming obese in the first place. But who can

do it? Mothers and health care professional who advises them. See

what a research released yesterday says:

 

http://www.emaxhealth.com/88/8354.html

 

The incidence of babies heavier than 6 lbs is increasing in India

too, notably in Metros. Tribal babies are skinny, just a mass of

bones and skin, like their mothers. Author wonders how babies become

satisfied with breast milk. Despite small breasts, milk supply is

never poor!

 

> She had surgical birth because in early labor she was told that her

> womb would rupture because baby was so big. Baby was 6 lbs. Is a

> good video to see the rough treatment of the mother's body and the

> baby. This baby was also pulled out by forceps. Anna Nicole is

> well, Anna Nicole, but her retelling and re-experiencing of the

> memory is very right on with most women's experience.

 

Dear Dr. Bhate;

Your post raises a very interesting mix of responses with me personally. Are

you suggesting then that normal birth weight is under 6 lbs? The terminology in

the second article link, such as this discussion below, does not ring right to

me:

 

" We've shown that this gene is switched on too early in an environment of high

nutrition. If we can block this gene early, we can cut the obesity rate in the

offspring of obese mothers and the inter-generational cycle of obesity will be

broken. Understanding the response mechanisms that are set up early in life will

help us to move forward, " Muhlhausler said.

 

" While we know that over nutrition before birth makes obesity harder to reverse,

watching too much television, lack of exercise and eating junk food will still

make people fat. Healthy food choices and moderate activity levels are very

important for everyone, regardless of their beginnings. "

 

IE, using the term high nutriton or over nutriton does not equate in my

vocabulary with the obesity conditions of junk food, poor exercise, etc. What

is more, I have given birth to three babies over 6 lbs, specifically 9.3, 7.9,

and 9.11 lbs, all of whom have no signs of obesity at ages 34, 29, and 19

respectively. I prefer to look at the problem in dietary terms as empty

nutrition, over fed often, and I take issue also with some of the practices in

western nutrition which, with no understanding of agni or food combining are

over feeding mothers with often good foods even which they are not gaining much

from as a result. Also the stress hormone and related factors creating body need

to neutralize toxins into stored excess fat. But blocking genes? This sound

like a strange approach to me.

 

Knowing also the tendency to trans fats, hydrogenated fats, polluted fats,

fried, low EFAs - instead of sufficient good cholesterol as well as other good

oils in metropolitan areas around the world which contribute to such a host of

hormonal, blood sugar balance, cravings and weight problems, I'm concerned this

discussion may mislead many to lean back into the problems discoverd with the

lowfat and high acid forming diets. Given high vata factors in pregnancy and

even more after birth responding so well to the list of vata balancing

influences including good fats and some healthier variations on what many call

comfort foods, I am not convinced of the value of encouraging skinnier

pregnancies. This just sounds simplistic to me.

 

Of course, I am in total agreement that patterns in utero and early first year

create lasting strengths and weaknesses for life, and that understanding the

many response and patterning links is very important for good pregnancy

recommendations from a mother's professional team.

 

Warm Regards

Ysha

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> I prefer to look at the problem in dietary terms as empty

nutrition, over fed often, and I take issue also with some of the

practices in western nutrition which, with no understanding of agni

or food combining are over feeding mothers with often good foods even

which they are not gaining much from as a result. Also the stress

hormone and related factors creating body need to neutralize toxins

into stored excess fat. But blocking genes? This sounds like a

strange approach to me.>

 

Yes, obesity is not just overnutrition. Overnutrition itself is the

result of cravings arising from wrong combination. While many western

experts suggest metabolic typing such as " protein dominant " , " carb

dominant " and " mixed " , ayurveda has already described three body

humors and suggested diet for all three types, for all six seasons.

It is a different matter that six seasons distinctly felt in india

are absent in some of the arctic circles.

 

>

> Knowing also the tendency to trans fats, hydrogenated fats,

polluted fats, fried, low EFAs - instead of sufficient good

cholesterol as well as other good oils in metropolitan areas around

the world which contribute to such a host of hormonal, blood sugar

balance, cravings and weight problems, I'm concerned this discussion

may mislead many to lean back into the problems discoverd with the

lowfat and high acid forming diets.>

 

Yes, it is not only food, complete life style matters for health and

obesity. Satvik diets eliminate cravings. This has been actually

experienced when author could ask patients to increase cow ghee(where

available) or Omega-3 fats slightly in diet, cravings, hardness of

the tummy gradually disappeared and family members were surprised

when patient stopped his angry incidences, binge eating etc.

 

 

< Given high vata factors in pregnancy and even more after birth

responding so well to the list of vata balancing influences including

good fats and some healthier variations on what many call comfort

foods, I am not convinced of the value of encouraging skinnier

pregnancies. This just sounds simplistic to me.>

 

You are right, that is why there are so many items made from guggulu,

ghee, ginger, pepperamul, jaggery added in postnatal diet and

massage, fomentation schedules are strictly observed. Out of 42 days

postnatal schedule, there are ready to take Kashayas (herbal

decoctions) termed " Balant Kadha " (meaning for postnatal mom) No. 1,

2, 3 which are to be taken in succession each for 14 days. They

contain different herbs, having 'vata balancing', 'grounding'

and 'regenerating of tissues'

qualities.

 

Making of these kashayas is a specialized skill, better left to

pharmacies and experienced vaidyas.

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> Satvik diets eliminate cravings. ...when author could ask patients

to increase cow ghee(where> available) or Omega-3 fats slightly in

diet, cravings, hardness of the tummy gradually disappeared and family

members were surprised when patient stopped his angry incidences,

binge eating etc.

 

The conditions in this country are truely influenced by excess,

indicated also by the need for larger quantities due I expect from

congestion of multiple body channels and functions. for same results

you experience with clients living more minimally.

>

> You are right, that is why there are so many items made from

guggulu,...Out of 42 days postnatal schedule, there are ready to take

Kashayas (herbal decoctions) termed " Balant Kadha " (meaning for

postnatal mom) No. 1, 2, 3 which are to be taken in succession each

for 14 days. They contain different herbs, having 'vata balancing',

'grounding' and 'regenerating of tissues' qualities.

 

This is something some of my clients (Indian) have referred to, but

none of my teachers have taught here. So my ears have been for long

time wide open looking for this! Would you be so kind to explain more

about the nature and need of these three phases? I have seen that

mothers need shift in focus with the postpartum nutrition also, had

not identified just when the shifting occurs and suppose it parallels?

 

We have, as a result, been working with a model of - about first 10

days, then middle two-3 weeks, last 10 days sort of focus with adding

more range of foods. More moist/mushy/sweet/ easiest to digest first

days, then increasing vegetables, proteins, more solid form and

diverse in some of foods and cooking methods, as well as increasingly

nourishing for lactation and rejuvenation needs.

 

It is recently given by Dr. Rucha Kelkar's article in the LIght on

Ayurveda Journal article on postpartum ayurveda that the first 2-3

days require extra agni enhancing spices such as clove, ginger,

pippali or pepper, nutmeg (I hesitate on this one due to binding

action in bowel, but Hare Krishna community senior mothers recommend

it with their clients hence my exposure).

>

> Making of these kashayas is a specialized skill, better left to

> pharmacies and experienced vaidyas.

 

These include bhasmas and the gugguls? THis must be why it has not

come through my training in the US. Do you know of sources of these

three preparations which are certified heavy metal clean and pesticide

free? I am hesitant to buy over the counter preparations, even this

Katlu (Batrisu) powder classicaly sold for postpartum mother's

rasayana sweets in the Indian stores. I see both familiar and

unfamiliar herbs included. This box is sitting on my desk today even,

but since the alerts around impurities so common, I have not opened

it. Undoubtedly potency is very reduced now in any case due to age.

 

THis impurity thing became more on awareness when a girlfriend

discovered many problems related to high arsenic levels in her system.

She had been working at a Florida Ayurvedic clinic and was given in

part payment very nice herbal rejuvenative avelayas from Kerala place

visited often by the naturopathic doctor. They have not tested for

metals, but are of such integrous people and herbal preparation

facility well known to him, he felt there was no need. Yet my

friend's research discovered the local groundwater there in Kerala was

rich in arsenic!

 

Namaste;

Ysha

[Guest guest]

Dear Dr. Bhate;

 

This post was set aside to read the links " later " , knowing Odent's

website is so rich with information. Janel told me so, and I had not

gone there much knowing a time commitment involved! I see some of my

remarks in related post were innapropriate based upon not reading

these artcles. Thank you for keeping up with so much information,

sharing, and my apologies for any disrepectful sounding reply. There

is much to study, and it is very interesting to see this work.

 

The vision continues to grow that Ayurveda has so much to guide the

researchers, and the researchers, some of them, are coming around the

long way to confirming what ayurveda has known for thousands of

years. It does make it easier sometimes to share, when we can say,

see here, these researches are confirming this. (Helps those who

didin't listen to the details of their ayurvedic basics!).

 

Namaste;

Ysha

 

> C-section. But what makes baby big?

> The sky rocketting C-section rate does not surprise this author. The

> first person causing this is pregnant mom! surprised?

>

> http://www.wombecology.com/obesity.html>

> http://www.emaxhealth.com/88/8354.html

>

>......But blocking genes? This sound like a strange approach to me.

Only now because I didn't read/realize what they meant. Blocking the

body's genetic intelligence, of course many things are doing this

 

> and weight problems, I'm concerned this discussion may mislead many

to lean back into the problems discoverd with the lowfat and high acid

forming diets. Given high vata factors in pregnancy and even more

 

The articles self explain, agreeing strongly with Ayurveda and with

need for more good lipids needed for balance