From FL Intern , baby insomnia & maternal emotons

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Dear Gaura;

Please read thru this discussion we did privately, as there are some

additions -

Dear Ysha,

I have a few questions. I have a client who is about 2.5 months

pp. She says her baby does not nap during the day!? Goes to sleep

around 10 I think & nurses about 3 times a night, & gets up around 9

or 10 in the morn. Then is up the rest of the day. I also found out

from Madhavi that she has insomnia.

 

Dear Gaura;

With what little info and late hour, perhaps a few comments will still

be in order for you all - interleaved. Is it the mother or baby who

has insomnia? As you know we don't usually wake sleeping baby, and if

doing infant massage corrects the situation (try first) then this

maybe not necessary following. So if you insist on keeping Baby

awake, do by 6:30 or 7 for a couple hours to reset the routine in this

case and encourage a kapha hours (when sleep is more supported by Ma

Nature) nap for the newborn before lunch if possible. If the mom with

sleep problems, assess also her ideas around work commtiments or time

out at night? And remember the 3 or 4 page piece in your training

notes on dealing with sleep problems for postpartum mothers.

 

When I cared for her I did 10 days cook & herbals & 5 treatments.

She never said anything about this. I saw her at Vera's birthday

party. She's the one that had some depression, which seemed to get

better as soon as her husband got back from out of town. I did give

her the herbs you reccom.

 

As I don't remember which herbs, will be good (and part of your

internship to write these things down) to ask what her experience with

the herbs was and does she want more? Specif, did it help not only

depression but sleep, groundedness, etc. How regular was she taking

them and for how long? along with the usual pp assessment questions.

 

What can I offer her. I am going to teach her & another client

infant massage next week. maybe that will help baby some.

 

Good for mom and baby, always helps the babies to sleep longer

stretches. At night waking 3X is fine normal, routine, unless Baby

doesn't go back to sleep (in which case remember the 2 or 3 pages of

notes you have on that subject), but daytime, probably you are

referring to the infant " having insomnia " . Having high vata and

perhaps pitta is how it can be looked at.

 

You can ask the telling questions about diet, lifestyle, help Mom

understand what she needs to lean on for her own lifestyle and

dietary things. Also a few essential oils to play with, even the

essential 7 kit. Maybe show her the color printout of 101 uses, will

apply to much more than pp issues and at this tpoint, her engagements

in life probably will be attracted to that.

 

I don't have details right now so this may not be enough info for

you. What questions should I ask her? Let me know . Thanks for your

help in advance.

 

Let me know what else you learn about her and we can talk more.

Remember heading into winter and extra vata needs again, but look at

digestive fire, ama/agni issues too, possible signs of thyroid low

also - you may want to refer her to our good friend Shawna Doran, ARNP

there in Alachua who does such excellent work and has the more

reliable tests many docs do not (but they are not covered by

medicaid). Alternately for thyroid, the basal metabolic temp home

test with thermometer (read your notes).

 

Also the devotee that had a still birth is having some issues.

 

I've thought of her a number of times and wondered how she is, if she

got out of some of those challenging attachments to how things should

be. And if she still was attracted to the eoils.

 

I've made some rec to her & will see her soon. She loves geranium

oil & I'm ordering for her this month. What else?

 

She is still depressed, grieving? There is a book called aromatherapy

for healing the spirit, by Gabriel Mojay you all will enjoy, she might

want to get a copy. Q which words fit: Grief, loss made unconcsious

or vaguely pervasive, grief that one has never come to terms with,

emotional vacancy, melancholy, remoteness, resignation predominate,

" wound as yet too deep to heal " .... Cypress gives spiritual comfort

but also supports grieving process, helps contain AND move the blood,

to facilitate change and transition generally, to relinquish that

hwhich no longer serves or fulfills us. stuck, unable to move

forward...Also eucalyptus, helpful for inability to move forward,

depressive states of spiritual contraction. encourages more expansive

sense of awareness, may uplift spirit when feeling entrapment and

limitation, when person is yearning for greater freedom of spirit.

 

Clary sage concentrates its action on both bodily soul and intellect,

melancholy, restless distraction, smooths flow of chi, helps

especially with depression from chronic tension and ervous strain.

relaxes and reinforces the nervous system, restoring inner strength

when we have overstretched. grounding femininity, good also with

waffling emotions/back and forthness of emotinal direction indecided.

Clarifying and reviving our instinctive sense of kn owing, it

disperses the clouds that gather over states of inner conflict. (all

this pp 174-176). also, hyssop or pine help outgrow limited and let

go of the outworn, but not so deeply transforming as cypress for

embedded feelings of loss. Pine esp helps ease regret, and dissipate

remorse, both special to release feelings of negativity.

 

Thyme oil especially for strengthening the warrior or will against the

known or unknown fears. powerful neurotonic, supports bravery and

will. Helps for depressive states of defeat or dread, as well as of

apathy. So whatever you have in this vein, a taste of it for her will

help her choose and find the means to purchase her own. I would

certainly encourage you to help enroll her as a member again if it is

expired, even as customer and even if you have to occasionally (not

good practice but sometimes I do) give them back your retail

commission just to help them get started with their own account and to

honor your work with that little pittance of 5% you will still earn.

 

I've referred to Mojay in the new version of the eoils notes, did you

get them? I ca't remember if I sent.

 

She has a weight problem, bounces back & forth. Banyon has some

good support herbs, what do you think? SHe has trouble getting up in

the morn. But she does always dress nice & takes care how she looks.

Ithink there are some marital issues there.

 

love, Gaura Priya

 

There were weight probs then too...as I remember she was so worried

about her weight after the birth she very soon after began an extreme

weight loss focus. Compliance with the recommendations is my concern

with her for your sake also, maybe she is more ready? We can look at

the catalogue together after you assess the doshic , agni and ama

involvements a little more. Sounds to me like a number of herbs might

help, but will be good to focus. Jatamamsi among them, ashwaghanda,

chitrak triphala guggul, brahmi for sure, and shankapushpi if not also

some blood cleansing or agni more specific support. But the chitrak

will be specific to meda dhatu (fat tissue).

 

Of great value to her I would guess if not happening, is willingness

to cook regularly for herself and family, learning better nutritional

and doshic balance! She will probalby need to focus on good strong

spicing for her agni and weight, and may need to use a churna at the

table as I remember her husband is thin and pitta/vata.

 

Vascillating weight can be sign of much vata, stress in her life, also

of extreme dietary practices, and certainly with her history, the high

cortisol (stress hormone) factor may be bringing weight on back on

agian and again. Which effects how much grounding, neurotransmitter,

and cleansing supports we want to give. Enquire on her dietary and

other patterns. Ask also if she has had thyroid tested or recommend

the basal metabolic temp test, averaging over 3-5 ams befoe getting

out of bed (see instrucitons in the thyroid piece).

 

Consider if she is able to do some home pk, we will have to talk

further - the pk as discussed another post this forum with oleation

and other methods helps safely lift out the toxins which often are

involved in repeated weight gain after dramatic loss. This is also

occurring with more toxic lifestyle and dietary factors, but sometimes

from toxins sitting in the tissues which get mobilized with fat

burning programs, then the body uses what it knows to neutralize and

be safe again from them. With high cortisol levels the body just

creates more fat again, has a habit also for this.

 

The clary sage will feel good! The oiis all of them that she may

have. At what is it now, 1.5 or 2 years since her loss? Lemon and

grapefruit 4-5 drops each/gallon water would be inexpensive and highly

indicated multiple reasons (weight loss, inhancing water intake, ox,

antioxidant, cortisol reducing, immune supports, antidepressants,

liver supportive, and detox), though she definitely needs to favor

warm temp food and drink, I would guess for kapha/vata? How much

pitta is there I'm not sure. Ask her to several times let you

practice reading basic 3 levels of pulse. Not right after eating or

bathing.

 

OK, I did a real night owl, hope this helps. Send her my love. Her

name again?

 

Love you

Ysha

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also make sure mom isn't drinking any affricated coffee, tea, sodas or

chocolate. Enough of it could keep the baby awake. V

 

 

 

 

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my spell check changed caffeinated to affricated before I could stop it from

going out:)