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Dear Sonya;

Thanks so much for sharing here. Your experience with moms more in

the public mainstream (suffering more of these type problems due to

poor dietary and other choices) than most of my clients gives me much

respect for your advice.

 

Yes, we did collect quite a variety of lively discussions on the

subject, not yet organized or prioritized, but from practitioners as

diverse as Vicky's as a lactation consultant and from the nursing

field (including gentian violet not so encouraging experiences) to

essential oils, and especially great ayurvedic info from Todd

Caldecott, who has treated many clients with ayurvedic approach in

more western understandable terms. Probably also Dr. Bhate's input.

Very thourough. THis info is in the files section, all together now

and easier to use than searching the archives.

 

notes RE:

> Mom should also avoid sweets so she doesn't get it too and make it

 

Those schooled in the western alternative threads will note we may

still be using sweet taste in form of cooked fruits. Of course stevia

is also actively supportive. Sweet taste is that which builds tissue,

can't be eliminated postpartum not only due to lactation needs, for

very long and feel balance is growing. Note the use of clove with the

apples is not just for taste, but is also antifungal and enhances both

the liver agnis (digestive fires) and the vitamin C value of even the

cooked apple, a combination special of mother nature of these things

westerners know as Quercetin plus the vitamin C somehow amping up even

when cooked instead of destroying the vitamin c. Antioxidants of

value such as these here.

 

> more coconut oil and olive oil for mom instead of ghee (I don't cook

> with the olive oil). I have read that cold pressed olive oil not

> cooked inhibits the growth of yeast. I also cook with more garlic,

> ginger, oregano, basil and turmeric.

 

The experience of thrush as I understand is commonly a pitta ama

(waste accumulations especially from high pitta/diet and lifestyle out

of balance) so even though extra warmth is generally indicated after

birth, yes, and especially after C-section, the cooling value of the

coconut oil should be fine in the foods, along with ample spices as

you have mentioned and well cooked garlic in her diet (and see the

other recommendations).

 

This monolaurin is an exciting discovery, also beneficial for herpes.

Not necessarily immediate results, but the influence of using a fat

as medicine or delivery of medicine herbs is significant.

Generalizing a bit for a moment in ayurvedic principles, good fats as

a food class, works better than dried herbs, tinctures and other

forms, not only help soothe, calm, nourish, and build hormonal balance

but take the " medicine " effect into deeper tissues, across lipid based

cell walls into the cells etc. It means coconut oil may be more

suitable than dried herbs, more bitter and astringent/vata increasing

choices on a physiology after childbirth which is already high vata.

 

It means that coconut oil can work deeply for things like dormant

viral load in the system also to begin to be supported well for

clearing. I have experienced this personally contrasting

with/without, from loosing my source of coconut oil for 5 weeks after

regular use! But taking it into the winter again the warning, it is

so cooling, can make us cold. The big buzz around coconut needs this

simple ayurvedic principle attended to for balance and immune strength

just with temperature on body influences alone.

 

> When a baby or mom has thrush usually the immune system is

> compromised so building up the immune system is important and I feel

> getting adequate rest is very beneficial.

 

The essential oils can be great boon with the immune system, see also

antifungal culinary herbs as you mentioned and others, yes the REST,

etc. Warming ones like thyme, oregano, clove, cinnamon, mountain

savory...all have some antifungal effect as well immune supporting,

oxygenating, free radical reducing...and can be cooled and the dryness

effects reduced with coconut oil. These warming herbs/essential oils

are also carminative, much more so as essential oils taken as a food

supplement in, say a vegetable capsule or mixed in honey. Carminative

action is also important after birth, expecially after surgery, it is

very weakened naturally and needs support.

>

> infected. The mom could also do vinegar wash, I have also seen

> baking soda paste from one source and I haven't had a client who

 

Some of these good suggestions you have brought up will be well

included in the thrush and candida files - will you add? It also will

be good to hear from anyone who has used any of these methods with

best success.

 

> Ask Ysha what she thinks of the mom doing grapefruit essential oil

> internally for the problem. Just a thought.

 

Sonya, I am wondering where did you get this question, and thinking

probably to make distinction between grapefruit essential oil and

grapefruit seed extract? Please note comparative discussion:

 

GRAPEFRUIT (PEEL) ESSENTIAL OIL has many virtues, per Naturopathic

physician Michael Tierra, among the citrus peel oils it is more

specific to spleen function. They all enhance liver/gall bladder

health, which according to ayurvedic practitioner Andreas Moritz is

central often in thrush and candida (gallstones congesting the liver

function his discussion). It also is (when low temp/pressure

distilled and organic)over 80% limonene which has exciting virtues for

building what western alternative practitioners say is the master

antioxidant of the body, glutathione, in the liver (not something we

can get results with taking directly). (Also among researched

antitumorals).

 

These plant peel oils help with fat dissolving, ama reducing,

disinfecting, detoxifying, antiseptic and diuretic effects as well as

being mildly antidepressant and generally uplifting. Many find weight

loss benefits adding grapefruit and lemon oil, about 3-5 drops each

per gallon of drinking water. My feeling it is less indicated for

early postpartum weeks, grapefruit is not only sour but astringent and

bitter (drying/cooling), there are usually better choices postpartum

tho it could be balanced and of benefit. It is inexpensive, also may

have cleansing effect on kidneys, lymphatic, and vascular system,

according the Essential OIls Desk Reference. INterestingly, although

Jyoti Miller in Ayurveda & ARomatherapy gives the usual warning about

citrus oils can create photosensitivity, Connie and Alan Higley in

their REference Guide for Essential OIls says grapefruit oil is

uniquely not phototoxic. Given that thrush on nipples needs

" medicine " which is not bitter tasting to baby, nor photosensitizing

for sun benefits, I would not use it topically. The probiotic touch

sounds more wise.

 

GRAPEFRUIT SEED OIL - is made from the seeds of grapefruit. According

to Jyoti Miller, it is expressed extract and expensive and difficult

to get; yes, this is commonly used for candida, bacterial infection

and parasites, among other things. It is more difficult to get

organic, is VERY bitter and cooling, vata increasing, though as

antifungal/anticandida good with thrush. I would choose something

else from the wealth of suggestions in our files if possible due to

very big significance on immune health of mother and baby when the

vata is so high postpartum anyway, and even more so after surgery.

 

I am wondering here how the following fits in: according to Todd

Caldecott IF grapefruit seed EXTRACT (not clear if this is different

from the essential oil of the seeds) works (for the antibiotic

effect), it is because of the preservative, which is a strong

allopathic antibiotic. If it doesn't work, this is because it does

not contain the preservative with this influence. See his very

authoritative discussion on www.ayurveda,

search the posts on grapefruit seed extract. An interesting

discussion...I do not have references to anticandida effects of

grapefruit seed extract in this regard.

 

Namaste;

Ysha

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