Guest guest Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Dear Sonya; Thanks so much for sharing here. Your experience with moms more in the public mainstream (suffering more of these type problems due to poor dietary and other choices) than most of my clients gives me much respect for your advice. Yes, we did collect quite a variety of lively discussions on the subject, not yet organized or prioritized, but from practitioners as diverse as Vicky's as a lactation consultant and from the nursing field (including gentian violet not so encouraging experiences) to essential oils, and especially great ayurvedic info from Todd Caldecott, who has treated many clients with ayurvedic approach in more western understandable terms. Probably also Dr. Bhate's input. Very thourough. THis info is in the files section, all together now and easier to use than searching the archives. notes RE: > Mom should also avoid sweets so she doesn't get it too and make it Those schooled in the western alternative threads will note we may still be using sweet taste in form of cooked fruits. Of course stevia is also actively supportive. Sweet taste is that which builds tissue, can't be eliminated postpartum not only due to lactation needs, for very long and feel balance is growing. Note the use of clove with the apples is not just for taste, but is also antifungal and enhances both the liver agnis (digestive fires) and the vitamin C value of even the cooked apple, a combination special of mother nature of these things westerners know as Quercetin plus the vitamin C somehow amping up even when cooked instead of destroying the vitamin c. Antioxidants of value such as these here. > more coconut oil and olive oil for mom instead of ghee (I don't cook > with the olive oil). I have read that cold pressed olive oil not > cooked inhibits the growth of yeast. I also cook with more garlic, > ginger, oregano, basil and turmeric. The experience of thrush as I understand is commonly a pitta ama (waste accumulations especially from high pitta/diet and lifestyle out of balance) so even though extra warmth is generally indicated after birth, yes, and especially after C-section, the cooling value of the coconut oil should be fine in the foods, along with ample spices as you have mentioned and well cooked garlic in her diet (and see the other recommendations). This monolaurin is an exciting discovery, also beneficial for herpes. Not necessarily immediate results, but the influence of using a fat as medicine or delivery of medicine herbs is significant. Generalizing a bit for a moment in ayurvedic principles, good fats as a food class, works better than dried herbs, tinctures and other forms, not only help soothe, calm, nourish, and build hormonal balance but take the " medicine " effect into deeper tissues, across lipid based cell walls into the cells etc. It means coconut oil may be more suitable than dried herbs, more bitter and astringent/vata increasing choices on a physiology after childbirth which is already high vata. It means that coconut oil can work deeply for things like dormant viral load in the system also to begin to be supported well for clearing. I have experienced this personally contrasting with/without, from loosing my source of coconut oil for 5 weeks after regular use! But taking it into the winter again the warning, it is so cooling, can make us cold. The big buzz around coconut needs this simple ayurvedic principle attended to for balance and immune strength just with temperature on body influences alone. > When a baby or mom has thrush usually the immune system is > compromised so building up the immune system is important and I feel > getting adequate rest is very beneficial. The essential oils can be great boon with the immune system, see also antifungal culinary herbs as you mentioned and others, yes the REST, etc. Warming ones like thyme, oregano, clove, cinnamon, mountain savory...all have some antifungal effect as well immune supporting, oxygenating, free radical reducing...and can be cooled and the dryness effects reduced with coconut oil. These warming herbs/essential oils are also carminative, much more so as essential oils taken as a food supplement in, say a vegetable capsule or mixed in honey. Carminative action is also important after birth, expecially after surgery, it is very weakened naturally and needs support. > > infected. The mom could also do vinegar wash, I have also seen > baking soda paste from one source and I haven't had a client who Some of these good suggestions you have brought up will be well included in the thrush and candida files - will you add? It also will be good to hear from anyone who has used any of these methods with best success. > Ask Ysha what she thinks of the mom doing grapefruit essential oil > internally for the problem. Just a thought. Sonya, I am wondering where did you get this question, and thinking probably to make distinction between grapefruit essential oil and grapefruit seed extract? Please note comparative discussion: GRAPEFRUIT (PEEL) ESSENTIAL OIL has many virtues, per Naturopathic physician Michael Tierra, among the citrus peel oils it is more specific to spleen function. They all enhance liver/gall bladder health, which according to ayurvedic practitioner Andreas Moritz is central often in thrush and candida (gallstones congesting the liver function his discussion). It also is (when low temp/pressure distilled and organic)over 80% limonene which has exciting virtues for building what western alternative practitioners say is the master antioxidant of the body, glutathione, in the liver (not something we can get results with taking directly). (Also among researched antitumorals). These plant peel oils help with fat dissolving, ama reducing, disinfecting, detoxifying, antiseptic and diuretic effects as well as being mildly antidepressant and generally uplifting. Many find weight loss benefits adding grapefruit and lemon oil, about 3-5 drops each per gallon of drinking water. My feeling it is less indicated for early postpartum weeks, grapefruit is not only sour but astringent and bitter (drying/cooling), there are usually better choices postpartum tho it could be balanced and of benefit. It is inexpensive, also may have cleansing effect on kidneys, lymphatic, and vascular system, according the Essential OIls Desk Reference. INterestingly, although Jyoti Miller in Ayurveda & ARomatherapy gives the usual warning about citrus oils can create photosensitivity, Connie and Alan Higley in their REference Guide for Essential OIls says grapefruit oil is uniquely not phototoxic. Given that thrush on nipples needs " medicine " which is not bitter tasting to baby, nor photosensitizing for sun benefits, I would not use it topically. The probiotic touch sounds more wise. GRAPEFRUIT SEED OIL - is made from the seeds of grapefruit. According to Jyoti Miller, it is expressed extract and expensive and difficult to get; yes, this is commonly used for candida, bacterial infection and parasites, among other things. It is more difficult to get organic, is VERY bitter and cooling, vata increasing, though as antifungal/anticandida good with thrush. I would choose something else from the wealth of suggestions in our files if possible due to very big significance on immune health of mother and baby when the vata is so high postpartum anyway, and even more so after surgery. I am wondering here how the following fits in: according to Todd Caldecott IF grapefruit seed EXTRACT (not clear if this is different from the essential oil of the seeds) works (for the antibiotic effect), it is because of the preservative, which is a strong allopathic antibiotic. If it doesn't work, this is because it does not contain the preservative with this influence. See his very authoritative discussion on www.ayurveda, search the posts on grapefruit seed extract. An interesting discussion...I do not have references to anticandida effects of grapefruit seed extract in this regard. Namaste; Ysha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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