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Janel,

 

Gentian Violet is what you are trying to recall. It works for some

and not others and it is messy and will stain so have the mom be

careful. If you look also in the archives from around Jan or Feb 06

Ysha had a whole bunch of resources.

 

 

 

Mom and baby should take probiotics. Mom should also avoid sweets

so she doesn't get it too and make it worse for baby. I start using

more coconut oil and olive oil for mom instead of ghee (I don't cook

with the olive oil). I have read that cold pressed olive oil not

cooked inhibits the growth of yeast. I also cook with more garlic,

ginger, oregano, basil and turmeric. I make stewed apples with clove

and anything that gets things moving in the intestinal tract since

that is where it all thrives and grows.

 

 

 

When a baby or mom has thrush usually the immune system is

compromised so building up the immune system is important and I feel

getting adequate rest is very beneficial.

 

 

 

I t is easily passed back and forth from mom to baby. If mom has it

too it her nipples will be very tender and it will hurt when baby

latches and it will hurt throughout the feeding. It is a lot easier

to clear up in the baby than the mom. Nipples should be kept clean

and dry and given air time. Nursing pads, bras, pacifiers, pump

parts etc. should be sterilized regularly to avoid becoming re-

infected. The mom could also do vinegar wash, I have also seen

baking soda paste from one source and I haven't had a client who

has tried it but I remember that turmeric on the nipples may be

helpful.

 

I have also read that doing a mouthwash of 1/8 tsp. lactobacillus

with 1/2c. water is helpful for the baby. Use an eye dropper and

squirt the solution on the gums, cheeks and tongue.

 

 

 

Ask Ysha what she thinks of the mom doing grapefruit essential oil

internally for the problem. Just a thought.

 

 

 

Hope some of this is helpful,

Sonya

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Hi JAnel

Warm sesame oil or sesame and coconut oil massage daily for Baby!!!

After the missing birth canal healthy pressures to

digestive/circulatory/lung and other systems, the massage serves not

just the loveing bonding extension and deepening, but very important

life function strengthening missed particularly if it was a planned c

without labor's massage.

 

Forgive my other post contained rambles beyond appropriate for your

client, although much value too if you are beginning to study the

basic principles of ayurveda for mothers after birth. Take care of

MOM and she takes best care of Baby! Keywords, especially extra extra

important for after csection - REST, warmth, oiliness, moisture,

simplicity, mothering the mother. Favoring non-yeast supportive sweet

tastes, sour and salty, though all 6 are important. See the foods

cooking for postpartum in the files, and with yeast lean away from so

much diary for her favoring more roasted tahini/other nut milks and

sauces, more on sesame oil and coconut oil (both with some anticandida

effects) instead of the heavy ghee usually recommended in her

nutrition. As Shirish mentioned, green veggies (see favored including

asparagus and zucchini cooked with a mild curry powder is easy way to

satisfy tastes and herbal seasoning balance. GENEROUS use at this

time of fresh minced garlic, gently browned then served with

vegetables, dhals, whatever, as a chutney even but well cooked.

 

As she prefers the fresh sweet fruits, offer them, tho digestion may

ask for a while yet more stewed. Our pumpkin pie type and chai type

spices are very helpful here, not just for taste.

 

Search this forum possibly files as thrush/candida also for more

discussions also on good probiotic supports to rebuild. Dr. Saraswati

Buhrman works with many such clients and prefers a broad spectrum

protiotic inclusive of what they call soil based organisms (found on

healthy raw foods) such as " Friendly Colonizer " brand from 800-469-2290.

 

I would definitely be using essential oils with her if she can afford

to protect immune system from slipping again while clearing the thrush

while she learns more healthy ways for her and baby. Simple way, the

Thieves blend can be taken in capsules as well as applied topical,

contains several in one (dilute slightly 1:1 or 1:2 to be cautious).

Janel, did you receive the essential oils document sent privately

yesterday?

 

Wednesday Oct 25/2006 8pm central time free conference call class all

invited (limited to 95 maximum) Dial-in (402) 756-9100

Access Code: 102313# (ie, hit the pound sign after). This one on

essential oils, offering other classes in this format shortly.

 

Pitta ama being usually involved I always look to chamomile oil among

baby's supports. It tastes bitter but not extreme like grapefruit

seed extract, is cooling and calming, carminative and can choose to

blend with warming ones and/or coconut oil. The tea is not effective,

over 95% of the essential oils get evaporated from dried herbs.

(Ayurvedic herbs including turmeric to use well in maternal foods are

more nutritive in other ways, usually from more nutrient dense

roots/barks/seeds instead of leaves and flowers.)

>

> any other suggestions for a baby, four weeks old, born c-

> section, mother had a lot of antibiotics for infection, baby too.

 

Mother also despirately needs warm oil applicaitons, similar sequence

as described for baby. Keep room warm, keep her covered from

slightest even warm draft. Repetitive, loving, simple strokes, no

music, just let her awareness go in, strengthening mind-body

re-coordination while supporting movement of lymph, circulation, all

systems, waste elimination etc at this time when exercise is not

appropriate choice. Repeating applications of soothing connectedness

from both warm oil and warm loving touch. Let her help decide if she

needs the cooling balance energetically of coconut or prefers the

usual sesame. This will powerfully strengthen the natural maternal

experience of connectedness with all creation, essential for healing

the disturbed bonding timing from surgery's processes, feelings of

failure, insecurities as well as lipid nutritional needs from hormonal

imbalances, even if Baby was brought to Mom right away.

 

Rather disorderly listing of info, but should help. There is more, of

course. If she gets a taste of things that help, she may be willing

to reach for and do more.

 

WArm Regards;

Ysha

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Thanks! My daughter came down with a cold on our twelve hour road trip

today and the dog has something funky going on his hind quarters. Both

are getting coconut treatment tomorrow. I have virgin coconut oil on

hand. I'll let you know.

 

-- In ayurveda , " Shirish Bhate "

<shirishbhate wrote:

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> An alternative to that " violet something " is proposed here:

>

> You've probably heard that breast milk is jam-packed with nutrients

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Thank you everyone for the info -- so amazing. Thanks, Ysha. I'll pass

this along to her tomorrow. Her mother and father are taking turns

staying with her and baby -- she has lots of care. Maybe this info

will be useful to her mother, a nurse.

janel

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Dr. Bhate:

 

You wrote, " Author uses coconut oil light massage whenever there is a

rash due to anti-biotics or an itching eczema. When itch is

accompanied by pricking sensation or inflammation, coconut oil came

to be useful. Coconut oil available here is sweet in taste, has

glycosugars also. "

 

Wouldn't " rash due to anti-biotics " be an allergic reaction? I had

a reaction like that to penicillen when I was a teen -- I had rash

with near blisters, a lot on my toes. I had rarely had antibiotics

before as my family rarely went to medical doctors. I think doctor

called it " allergic " and I have never used again. My oldest son

broke out when give amoxycilin as an infant -- so he has rarely had

antiobiotics since.

 

I put coconut oil on the dogs open wound that he won't stop digging

on. Peroxide had helped some. I put on enough oil to let him ingest

some too. He licked and licked and licked -- liked the oil!! And,

his beard was very oiled up into a very interesting, new style.

 

My daughter is taking coconut oil --- something I have wanted to do

on a daily basis, but haven't. Isn't it more of " prevention " measure

rather than a fast therapuetic, like drugs?

 

What essential oil is good for immune system?? Physically, we can

thump on our thymus gland.

 

janel

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Janel, .....thump on our thymus gland? Is that emotional freedom technique?

I've been wondering how you do that, but couldn't afford to take the course.

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Janel Martin-Miranda

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Monday, October 23, 2006 8:01 AM

PerinatalAyurveda forum Re: thrush remedy

 

 

Dr. Bhate:

 

You wrote, " Author uses coconut oil light massage whenever there is a

rash due to anti-biotics or an itching eczema. When itch is

accompanied by pricking sensation or inflammation, coconut oil came

to be useful. Coconut oil available here is sweet in taste, has

glycosugars also. "

 

Wouldn't " rash due to anti-biotics " be an allergic reaction? I had

a reaction like that to penicillen when I was a teen -- I had rash

with near blisters, a lot on my toes. I had rarely had antibiotics

before as my family rarely went to medical doctors. I think doctor

called it " allergic " and I have never used again. My oldest son

broke out when give amoxycilin as an infant -- so he has rarely had

antiobiotics since.

 

I put coconut oil on the dogs open wound that he won't stop digging

on. Peroxide had helped some. I put on enough oil to let him ingest

some too. He licked and licked and licked -- liked the oil!! And,

his beard was very oiled up into a very interesting, new style.

 

My daughter is taking coconut oil --- something I have wanted to do

on a daily basis, but haven't. Isn't it more of " prevention " measure

rather than a fast therapuetic, like drugs?

 

What essential oil is good for immune system?? Physically, we can

thump on our thymus gland.

 

janel

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Janel

 

You asked a very good question. Answer is equally simple. If you wish

to build immune system, take what God offers, not what industry

offers.

 

Here God means all plants, cows, animals. Indian cow is such an

excpetional animal. Will not release milk until calf is fed first.

 

All vegetables, fruits, fresh raw milks (includes breast milk of a

mother eating greens) build immunity. will not cause cravings as all

such products churned out by God are complete in every respect.

 

Finally, the author offers a " treat " to all mother members of this

group:

 

http://health.ayurveda/message/6632

http://health.ayurveda/message/6650

 

All glycosugars thump thymus gland! they cause goose bumps sometimes.

 

Enjoy!

 

--In ayurveda , " Janel Martin-Miranda "

<janel_miranda wrote:

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> What essential oil is good for immune system?? Physically, we can

> thump on our thymus gland.

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