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I'ld go with a clear quartz, balances everything, or a calming stone, maybe

amethyst or rose quartz....

 

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Sandra <gypwytch wrote: Can anyone

recomend what crystal(s) to use or have with me when I go

to my dentist appointment next week? Due to a couple bad experiences,

and my sister terrorising me with stories as a young child, I have

terrible fears of dentists and anything associated with them. I have a

good dentist now, but the old fears still remain. It is time for my

six month check-up, and I know that at least one tooth is going to

need work. They have a awful time getting the x-rays done because I

have an extremely strong gag reflex, I also worry about the gag

problem when they are working on me. Any advice would be welcome!

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In a message dated 7/20/2006 12:59:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,

gypwytch writes:

 

<<<Can anyone recomend what crystal(s) to use or have with me when I go

to my dentist appointment next week? Due to a couple bad experiences,

and my sister terrorising me with stories as a young child, I have

terrible fears of dentists>>>

 

 

Greetings and Salutations Sandra

 

Personally I would recommend Lepidolite (the valium of crystal so to speak)

it has natural lithium in it and a very calming stone. Rose quartz also for

it's calming loving energy. A grounding crystal would also be in order ...

Smokey Quartz, Black Tourmaline, Hematite.

 

Blessings to your day.

ReNau

 

 

 

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I'd forgotten all about lepidolite and it's affect on me, picked one

up in a shop many years ago and my hand wouldn't put it down, it was

like it instantly became a part of me. Took all the money I had in my

pocket to pay for it at the time. It is a large piece with rods of

pink tourmaline through it. Whenever I hold it, it goes translucent,

when I cleanse it, it returns to it's normal colour. Mom has always

been mystified by the transformation when she's seen it.

Thanks for the reminder of it's effects!

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>>> picked one up in a shop many years ago and my hand wouldn't put it down,

>>> it was like it instantly became a part of me. <<<

 

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I had a piece of Selenite do that to me !!! Very strange feeling that was.

When I picked it up it was like it was saying " Hey look how perfect I fit

your hand - I'm made for you - Gotta buy me - Gotta buy me !! "

 

It was more expensive than I wanted to spend, but I had the choice of buying

it, or being arrested for shoplifting !!! No way could I put it back down !!

 

Even stranger, I'd had no intention of buying Selenite that day, but later

that afternoon I had my first empathic reaction (to someone in a very deep

depression) which really upset me & Selenite sorted me out in no time.

Something *knew* I was going to need it.

 

 

L & L

Sarah

 

PS Hope your dentist appointment goes well.

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I thought that black tourmaline would bve good for tooth pain and anxiety to

pain it seems to be very good at drawing out the thought of pain as i

imagined the notion of going to the dentists... and probably moonstone to soften

your worries and send out a softening vibe to the dentist to treat you with

particular care ans sensitivity.

 

Eva

 

 

 

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Hi Ysha & group..

I've spoken with Ysha about this particular client (though we haven't

followed up, Ysha), so I will summarize. This couple took

HypnoBirthing classes with me though they started late and had their

baby boy after we had only had three classes. Her baby was born a

week ago Sat (9/23, a couple weeks before he was expected. She called

me on the following Mon to tell me her story. She got through a quick

labor but with prolonged pushing (he was 9#) w/o an epidural and was

holding her baby after cord cut and attempting breastfeeding, when a

nurse noticed respiratory distress. Her baby was taken immediately to

NICU and, though I don't know the details of what transpired, was put

on a ventilator! When I talked to her she had been pumping, though

her milk had not come in yet, and her baby was receiving colostrum

through a feeding tube. She refused to leave the hospital! The next

time I talked to her was a couple days ago (a week after our first

conversaton) - though I had left messages of support on her cell

phone. I had figured that they were home by then and wondered why my

calls hadn't been returned. Well, they weren't home. And they are

still in the hospital almost two weeks later! Our conversation wasn't

lengthy because he was due for a feeding. Here's what I found out.

The baby was still in NICU but no longer on a ventilator. She has been

staying at the hospital since the birth and pumping and he has been

receiving her milk through the feeding tube. She has been spending all

her time as close to him as she has been able to. He was taken off

the ventilator on Mon and she finally got to hold him once again. The

nurse asked if she would like to attempt to breastfeed. It was

difficult at first because the feeding tube was still there, but he

proceeded to yank the tube out himself! And then he latched right on

and began nursing like a pro! She had been told that he had had

pneumonia! He has been on antibiotics the past couple weeks. She is

sure that they will go home by this weekend. Her husband rose to the

occasion and has been taking care of her other two children and

getting them to school, feeding them, etc. And she hasn't left the

hospital for a minute! Eating the hospital food. She says that

they're not very friendly toward her for taking up a hospital bed.

 

So now because we only had three Hypnobirthing classes and they paid

for five, I have offered her a day of postpartum care when they come

home. There's many of you on this forum with a wealth of knowledge.

Please give me advice how I can best serve this wonderful mother with

just this one day. I thought to offer the massage, but then what?

I'm sure their kitchen isn't stocked with the kinds of ingredients I

would need to cook a good meal but I could just bring some from home,

maybe make some kitchari, maybe some milk tonic. Give me some ideas

on how I can give her enough nurturing in one day to hold her over.

Ideally she would desire & request further care, but they are

self-employed, uninsured and I'm sure that this hospital expense has

put a huge dent in their finances and set them back, so it's not

likely. Maybe you have other ideas/suggestions that I can pass on to

this amazing mom. I was sure that this whole thing had traumatized

her, but when I spoke with her on Tues she sounded so strong,

determined and unphased. Such a lioness!

 

Maybe you can answer this question for me. I know that breast milk

naturally contains probiotics, but will the breast milk alone be

sufficient to reestablish the friendly flora in baby's gut after a

prolonged course of antibiotics or should this be supplemented?

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Keep in mind that the baby may likely develop thrush as a result of the

antibiotics and then transfer that to the mother in the form of nipple yeast, in

which case she will need probiotics. Poor thing has been through so much. I wish

I lived near enough to give her a few hours of pro bono time. No insurance,

ouch. Vicky

 

vicky york

Lactation consultant, postpartum doula

postpartum care services

.

Oregon

vmyork Work : 5412556368

 

 

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sarojashana

ayurveda

Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:33 PM

PerinatalAyurveda forum Advice please

 

 

Hi Ysha & group..

I've spoken with Ysha about this particular client (though we haven't

followed up, Ysha), so I will summarize. This couple took

HypnoBirthing classes with me though they started late and had their

baby boy after we had only had three classes. Her baby was born a

week ago Sat (9/23, a couple weeks before he was expected. She called

me on the following Mon to tell me her story. She got through a quick

labor but with prolonged pushing (he was 9#) w/o an epidural and was

holding her baby after cord cut and attempting breastfeeding, when a

nurse noticed respiratory distress. Her baby was taken immediately to

NICU and, though I don't know the details of what transpired, was put

on a ventilator! When I talked to her she had been pumping, though

her milk had not come in yet, and her baby was receiving colostrum

through a feeding tube. She refused to leave the hospital! The next

time I talked to her was a couple days ago (a week after our first

conversaton) - though I had left messages of support on her cell

phone. I had figured that they were home by then and wondered why my

calls hadn't been returned. Well, they weren't home. And they are

still in the hospital almost two weeks later! Our conversation wasn't

lengthy because he was due for a feeding. Here's what I found out.

The baby was still in NICU but no longer on a ventilator. She has been

staying at the hospital since the birth and pumping and he has been

receiving her milk through the feeding tube. She has been spending all

her time as close to him as she has been able to. He was taken off

the ventilator on Mon and she finally got to hold him once again. The

nurse asked if she would like to attempt to breastfeed. It was

difficult at first because the feeding tube was still there, but he

proceeded to yank the tube out himself! And then he latched right on

and began nursing like a pro! She had been told that he had had

pneumonia! He has been on antibiotics the past couple weeks. She is

sure that they will go home by this weekend. Her husband rose to the

occasion and has been taking care of her other two children and

getting them to school, feeding them, etc. And she hasn't left the

hospital for a minute! Eating the hospital food. She says that

they're not very friendly toward her for taking up a hospital bed.

 

So now because we only had three Hypnobirthing classes and they paid

for five, I have offered her a day of postpartum care when they come

home. There's many of you on this forum with a wealth of knowledge.

Please give me advice how I can best serve this wonderful mother with

just this one day. I thought to offer the massage, but then what?

I'm sure their kitchen isn't stocked with the kinds of ingredients I

would need to cook a good meal but I could just bring some from home,

maybe make some kitchari, maybe some milk tonic. Give me some ideas

on how I can give her enough nurturing in one day to hold her over.

Ideally she would desire & request further care, but they are

self-employed, uninsured and I'm sure that this hospital expense has

put a huge dent in their finances and set them back, so it's not

likely. Maybe you have other ideas/suggestions that I can pass on to

this amazing mom. I was sure that this whole thing had traumatized

her, but when I spoke with her on Tues she sounded so strong,

determined and unphased. Such a lioness!

 

Maybe you can answer this question for me. I know that breast milk

naturally contains probiotics, but will the breast milk alone be

sufficient to reestablish the friendly flora in baby's gut after a

prolonged course of antibiotics or should this be supplemented?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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ayurveda , <VMYORK wrote:

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> Keep in mind that the baby may likely develop thrush as a result of

the antibiotics and then transfer that to the mother in the form of

nipple yeast, in which case she will need probiotics. Poor thing has

been through so much. I wish I lived near enough to give her a few

hours of pro bono time. No insurance, ouch. Vicky

 

 

Thank you so much for the reminder, Vicky. I hadn't thought about the

thrush-passed-to-mom risk. Do you know if there is harm in newborn

also being supplemented with liquid probiotics? Or would that even be

necessary? I'll keep you posted on the outcome once they are home. I

will be available for her pro bono if she does need me for phone

consult. Saroj

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Well, when allopathic drs. treat thrush, they use gentian violet though it is

based in alcohol and hard on baby's mucus membranes in mouth should it come to

that. I would start by making sure the mom gets probiotics in her diet. Also,

there are baby probiotics in health food stores. If baby gets it both mom and

baby have to be treated and it can be difficult, so preventive measures are

good.

Vicky

 

 

vicky york

Lactation consultant, postpartum doula

postpartum care services

.

Oregon

vmyork Work : 5412556368

 

 

Review me at iKarma Want to spread your own reputation?

 

-

sarojashana

ayurveda

Friday, October 06, 2006 12:34 PM

Re: PerinatalAyurveda forum Advice please

 

 

ayurveda , <VMYORK wrote:

>

> Keep in mind that the baby may likely develop thrush as a result of

the antibiotics and then transfer that to the mother in the form of

nipple yeast, in which case she will need probiotics. Poor thing has

been through so much. I wish I lived near enough to give her a few

hours of pro bono time. No insurance, ouch. Vicky

 

 

Thank you so much for the reminder, Vicky. I hadn't thought about the

thrush-passed-to-mom risk. Do you know if there is harm in newborn

also being supplemented with liquid probiotics? Or would that even be

necessary? I'll keep you posted on the outcome once they are home. I

will be available for her pro bono if she does need me for phone

consult. Saroj

 

 

 

 

 

 

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How soon will you be seeing the baby? I have several thoughts and

techniques to share, but it requires a bit of interaction and

understanding. It's about the need for the mother and baby to have

opportunity to heal the separation wound and you being with the

mother and baby as an outsider/stranger/helper coming into that

dynamic. As post-partum caregiver, one can facilitate and contribute

to the healing or unknowingly add to the trauma.

http://www.infantparenthealing.com/parentsknow/attach.htm

This is a huge page but the first part explains self-attachment and

needs of baby and mother.

 

If you want to explore this, I'd love to do so with you -- to share

or not to share with the group.

 

Janel

 

 

ayurveda , " sarojashana " <saroj

wrote:

>

> Hi Ysha & group..

> I've spoken with Ysha about this particular client (though we

haven't

> followed up, Ysha), so I will summarize. This couple took

> HypnoBirthing classes with me though they started late and had

their

> baby boy after we had only had three classes. Her baby was born a

> week ago Sat (9/23, a couple weeks before he was expected. She

called

> me on the following Mon to tell me her story. She got through a

quick

> labor but with prolonged pushing (he was 9#) w/o an epidural and

was

> holding her baby after cord cut and attempting breastfeeding, when

a

> nurse noticed respiratory distress. Her baby was taken

immediately to

> NICU and, though I don't know the details of what transpired, was

put

> on a ventilator! When I talked to her she had been pumping, though

> her milk had not come in yet, and her baby was receiving colostrum

> through a feeding tube. She refused to leave the hospital! The

next

> time I talked to her was a couple days ago (a week after our first

> conversaton) - though I had left messages of support on her cell

> phone. I had figured that they were home by then and wondered why

my

> calls hadn't been returned. Well, they weren't home. And they are

> still in the hospital almost two weeks later! Our conversation

wasn't

> lengthy because he was due for a feeding. Here's what I found

out.

> The baby was still in NICU but no longer on a ventilator. She has

been

> staying at the hospital since the birth and pumping and he has been

> receiving her milk through the feeding tube. She has been spending

all

> her time as close to him as she has been able to. He was taken off

> the ventilator on Mon and she finally got to hold him once again.

The

> nurse asked if she would like to attempt to breastfeed. It was

> difficult at first because the feeding tube was still there, but he

> proceeded to yank the tube out himself! And then he latched right

on

> and began nursing like a pro! She had been told that he had had

> pneumonia! He has been on antibiotics the past couple weeks. She

is

> sure that they will go home by this weekend. Her husband rose to

the

> occasion and has been taking care of her other two children and

> getting them to school, feeding them, etc. And she hasn't left the

> hospital for a minute! Eating the hospital food. She says that

> they're not very friendly toward her for taking up a hospital bed.

>

> So now because we only had three Hypnobirthing classes and they

paid

> for five, I have offered her a day of postpartum care when they

come

> home. There's many of you on this forum with a wealth of

knowledge.

> Please give me advice how I can best serve this wonderful mother

with

> just this one day. I thought to offer the massage, but then what?

> I'm sure their kitchen isn't stocked with the kinds of ingredients

I

> would need to cook a good meal but I could just bring some from

home,

> maybe make some kitchari, maybe some milk tonic. Give me some

ideas

> on how I can give her enough nurturing in one day to hold her over.

> Ideally she would desire & request further care, but they are

> self-employed, uninsured and I'm sure that this hospital expense

has

> put a huge dent in their finances and set them back, so it's not

> likely. Maybe you have other ideas/suggestions that I can pass on

to

> this amazing mom. I was sure that this whole thing had traumatized

> her, but when I spoke with her on Tues she sounded so strong,

> determined and unphased. Such a lioness!

>

> Maybe you can answer this question for me. I know that breast milk

> naturally contains probiotics, but will the breast milk alone be

> sufficient to reestablish the friendly flora in baby's gut after a

> prolonged course of antibiotics or should this be supplemented?

>

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Janel,

I expect everyone would appreciate your sharing with us here. Just

take care again if you will to delete extra conversation repeted.

Love,

Ysha

>

> If you want to explore this, I'd love to do so with you -- to share

> or not to share with the group.

>

> Janel

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ayurveda , " Janel Martin-Miranda "

<janel_miranda wrote:

>

> How soon will you be seeing the baby? I have several thoughts and

> techniques to share, but it requires a bit of interaction and

> understanding.

>

> If you want to explore this, I'd love to do so with you -- to share

> or not to share with the group.

>

> Janel

 

Dear Janel...and group.

 

I spoke with Suzanne yesterday (Sat) (I won't call her " my client "

anymore since no one on this list could possibly know her, so

confidentiality not an issue) She called to tell me that she & the

baby (Liam) came home on Fri. He is still nursing like a trooper.

But alas, Suzanne hit the ground running! With two other children,

(kindergarten & 3rd grade), she has her hands full - and many things

backed up in the two weeks she was away from home. He is off

antibiotics. I suggested probiotics for both herself and baby and

that she be alert to thrush (thanks Vicky). She was thankful for the

advice.

 

Now in answer to you, Janel, I would be delighted if you would share

your thoughts and techniques! Either privately or with the group - (I

think Ysha would love for you to share with us all) - whatever is most

comfortable for you. I did my homework and read the paper from your

website that you encouraged - and followed all the links too. I am so

impressed with this work that I am imspired to supplement my current

learning experience with more of this!

 

Because of prior committments early this week, the soonest I will see

Suzanne & Liam is Wed or maybe Thurs so there is a couple or three

days between now & then when I hope I might find some time to get

familiar with whatever advice and teachings you can offer. I'm

tentative about my qualification & competence to do this work. I

DON'T WANT TO DO MORE HARM!!! My intention is from the heart, but I'm

sure more is needed than that alone....

 

Thanks so much for your kind support - and for the valuable work that

you are doing. We are blessed to have you with us!

 

Love... Saroj

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(I won't call her " my client "

> anymore since no one on this list could possibly know her, so

> confidentiality not an issue)

 

There is buzz right now in larger doula community about

confidentiality, HIPAA, etc. Might be best to abbreviate names to

initials only. I dislike having to bend over so far to cover our

behinds, but apparently someone from a hospital posed as a doula on

another list, went into the archives and found a post that disclosed

personal information, and is now stirring up all sorts of legal

nonsense.

 

Hugs,

Adrienne

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ayurveda , " adrienneleeds "

<greenhands wrote:

>

>

> (I won't call her " my client "

> > anymore since no one on this list could possibly know her, so

> > confidentiality not an issue)

>

> There is buzz right now in larger doula community about

> confidentiality, HIPAA, etc. Might be best to abbreviate names to

> initials only.

 

Thanks for that good advice, Adrienne.

 

To follow up, I have not yet given my one day of care to this client.

I'm waiting for her to return my call about arranging that for this

week. Maybe everything is going well enough that she doesn't feel a

need. I'll put a call into her again today.

 

But wonder of wonders, I get called again to give assistance. I must

be being called back to this work from my two-year absence. A mother

who just gave birth two days ago who came here just recently from

South America has been abandoned by her husband and is being given

refuge here by a loving group. A friend who wants to help called me

last night to ask if I can help. The baby has not latched and the

mother started formula. I haven't seen her or gotten any more detail

than that. I will be seeing her this afternoon. Vicky, any advice?

I'm a lactation counselor, but I'm feeling rusty. You can email me

privately since time is of the essence here.

 

I will use what I've learned from Janel. Today her milk will be

coming in so I know her breasts will be very full. If the baby will

not latch today, I will leave her with instruction to spend the day

with the baby skin-to-skin with the hope that her baby will self attach.

 

Janel, I have a question that might sound dumb to you since you're so

familiar with this. Why a third party to bear witness? I don't get how

that can be healing to the baby's trauma. Seems to me that this is

purely between mother and child. What am I missing here?

 

She has no money so this will be pro bono work and I may not be able

to give her any more of my time than this afternoon, or at least not

till next week, especially if it turns out that my other mother wants

care tomorrow - and the rest of my week is scheduled out. I'll leave

it to divine arrangement.

 

I'm grateful to those on this list who have given their input.

Love... Saroj

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any woman whose baby is not latching, has to start pumping right away. Is there

a wic office near her who will give her a pump? With lots of trying most babies

will latch eventually but by that time the milk is dried because the mom gave

formula and the breasts weren't emptied of the milk they had. If only someone

can teach her hand expression to save her milk supply at least.

We need more details about the problem. Vicky

 

 

 

 

 

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ayurveda

Wednesday, October 11, 2006 7:25 AM

PerinatalAyurveda forum Re: Advice please

 

 

ayurveda , " adrienneleeds "

<greenhands wrote:

>

>

> (I won't call her " my client "

> > anymore since no one on this list could possibly know her, so

> > confidentiality not an issue)

>

> There is buzz right now in larger doula community about

> confidentiality, HIPAA, etc. Might be best to abbreviate names to

> initials only.

 

Thanks for that good advice, Adrienne.

 

To follow up, I have not yet given my one day of care to this client.

I'm waiting for her to return my call about arranging that for this

week. Maybe everything is going well enough that she doesn't feel a

need. I'll put a call into her again today.

 

But wonder of wonders, I get called again to give assistance. I must

be being called back to this work from my two-year absence. A mother

who just gave birth two days ago who came here just recently from

South America has been abandoned by her husband and is being given

refuge here by a loving group. A friend who wants to help called me

last night to ask if I can help. The baby has not latched and the

mother started formula. I haven't seen her or gotten any more detail

than that. I will be seeing her this afternoon. Vicky, any advice?

I'm a lactation counselor, but I'm feeling rusty. You can email me

privately since time is of the essence here.

 

I will use what I've learned from Janel. Today her milk will be

coming in so I know her breasts will be very full. If the baby will

not latch today, I will leave her with instruction to spend the day

with the baby skin-to-skin with the hope that her baby will self attach.

 

Janel, I have a question that might sound dumb to you since you're so

familiar with this. Why a third party to bear witness? I don't get how

that can be healing to the baby's trauma. Seems to me that this is

purely between mother and child. What am I missing here?

 

She has no money so this will be pro bono work and I may not be able

to give her any more of my time than this afternoon, or at least not

till next week, especially if it turns out that my other mother wants

care tomorrow - and the rest of my week is scheduled out. I'll leave

it to divine arrangement.

 

I'm grateful to those on this list who have given their input.

Love... Saroj

 

 

 

 

 

 

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