Any tricks for turning babies? Q from Norway

[Guest guest]

Hi All

 

Marita has not gotten back to me, how this birth went nor joined our

forum. HOpefully the baby did turn! I'm just going thru some old

mail tonight, getting a bit caught up on few and thought you might be

interested in the discussion here. Probably there are more tricks to

share from midwives in the group also.

 

Ysha

 

Marita Andreassen

Dear Martha,

 

I have been encouraged to contact you for advice concerning birth.

One of the Art of Living-girls up here in the northern Norway is

giving birth around the 16th of May.

 

The child has not moved into the right position, but is laying with

the butt down. The doctors here have tried to turn it, but it hasn't

worked. If the child does not turn with the head down, she has to have

Caesarean operation, they say.

 

The mother is in good shape, and is about 35-37 yrs. old. This is her

first baby.

 

Is there any trick in ayurveda or other to help the child turn? The

mother-to-be has been told it is possible to turn a child by

footzone-therapi, but there is no one here who knows about that.

 

We will be very happy to receive your reply.

 

Best regards from Northern Norway

Marita Andreassen

Art of Living teacher

 

Martha Oakes <martha wrote:

Dear Marita;

It is exciting to hear from Norway - Northern no less! Brings a deep

breath thinking of the natural prana you must have with which to enjoy

your kriya practices!

 

There are many tricks the midwives know; I don't know the

footzone-therapi, but here are a few ideas:

 

organic peppermint oil, applied near the baby's head has been very

effective (on mom's belly just near baby's head)

 

laying 10 minutes 2 - 3 times a day on a 45degree slanted board

 

there are techniques the mexican/central american midwives use with a

simple strong sash called Rebozo. There are books, perhaps also

internet resources showing the technique. Related techniques also for

labor supports

 

It will be good for baby's health if Mom can labor, whether the baby

turns or not, before doing any surgery. Labor massges baby's lungs,

elimination and digestive systems, eliminating extra mucous and wastes

in preparaton for life on the planet as a breathing system etc. It

allows for much healther start, much healther immune system and much

more.

 

I hope this is helpful, send my warm regards and encourage the mother

to talk with the baby's higher self about this also. I would love to

hear of the results. Also encourage her to take advantage of the free

info on my website at www.sacredwindow.com, and for you to join if you

like the www.perinatalayurveda forum I host to

ask questions, share, and read more resources.

 

May I share this communication there? There are midwives on the forum

who may have further advice - do check in!

 

Was it Ann Revington who referred you? Please give her my warmest

greetings.

 

Many Blessings;

Ysha

 

Dear Ysha,

 

Yes, it was my dear friend Ann who recommended me to contact you.

Thank you for all your advices, I will share them with my friend

tomorrow morning!

 

Yes, you can share this communication with the forum. I will forward

the links to my friend, and I am sure she will be very interested to

look into them too.

 

I will let you know how it goes, I am very excited too.

 

From Norway with love,

Marita

[Guest guest]

Hi ladies:

 

Acupuncture or moxibustion is effective for turning babies, refer to several

acupuncturists

for this. I also use acupressure. I've had several Moms press hard on the

outside, bottom

edge of the nailbed of the small toe, several times a day until desired effect

happens. Also

application of warm water bags where you want babies head to turn to, cold ones

on the

feet or high on the fundus I've used once. Many reasons for babies not turning

including shorter than normal cords and extensive cord wrapping keeping them

from

turning, but I definitely agree talking to the baby about how much easier birth

would be in

optimal position including putting your hand with light pressure on deep lower

left part of

fundus, asking baby to put back of head here. I asked one baby who was

threatening to

come early and whose brother was born preemie to talk to his older brother about

living in

NICU ( and with lots of prayers offered) that baby waited past his due date.

 

Blessings-

Charlotte Del Toro

 

-- In ayurveda , " Martha Oakes " <AyurDoulas wrote:

>

> Hi All

>

> Marita has not gotten back to me, how this birth went nor joined our

> forum. HOpefully the baby did turn! I'm just going thru some old

> mail tonight, getting a bit caught up on few and thought you might be

> interested in the discussion here. Probably there are more tricks to

> share from midwives in the group also.

>

> Ysha

>

> Marita Andreassen

> Dear Martha,

>

> I have been encouraged to contact you for advice concerning birth.

> One of the Art of Living-girls up here in the northern Norway is

> giving birth around the 16th of May.

>

> The child has not moved into the right position, but is laying with

> the butt down. The doctors here have tried to turn it, but it hasn't

> worked. If the child does not turn with the head down, she has to have

> Caesarean operation, they say.

>

> The mother is in good shape, and is about 35-37 yrs. old. This is her

> first baby.

>

> Is there any trick in ayurveda or other to help the child turn? The

> mother-to-be has been told it is possible to turn a child by

> footzone-therapi, but there is no one here who knows about that.

>

> We will be very happy to receive your reply.

>

> Best regards from Northern Norway

> Marita Andreassen

> Art of Living teacher

>

> Martha Oakes <martha wrote:

> Dear Marita;

> It is exciting to hear from Norway - Northern no less! Brings a deep

> breath thinking of the natural prana you must have with which to enjoy

> your kriya practices!

>

> There are many tricks the midwives know; I don't know the

> footzone-therapi, but here are a few ideas:

>

> organic peppermint oil, applied near the baby's head has been very

> effective (on mom's belly just near baby's head)

>

> laying 10 minutes 2 - 3 times a day on a 45degree slanted board

>

> there are techniques the mexican/central american midwives use with a

> simple strong sash called Rebozo. There are books, perhaps also

> internet resources showing the technique. Related techniques also for

> labor supports

>

> It will be good for baby's health if Mom can labor, whether the baby

> turns or not, before doing any surgery. Labor massges baby's lungs,

> elimination and digestive systems, eliminating extra mucous and wastes

> in preparaton for life on the planet as a breathing system etc. It

> allows for much healther start, much healther immune system and much

> more.

>

> I hope this is helpful, send my warm regards and encourage the mother

> to talk with the baby's higher self about this also. I would love to

> hear of the results. Also encourage her to take advantage of the free

> info on my website at www.sacredwindow.com, and for you to join if you

> like the www.perinatalayurveda forum I host to

> ask questions, share, and read more resources.

>

> May I share this communication there? There are midwives on the forum

> who may have further advice - do check in!

>

> Was it Ann Revington who referred you? Please give her my warmest

> greetings.

>

> Many Blessings;

> Ysha

>

> Dear Ysha,

>

> Yes, it was my dear friend Ann who recommended me to contact you.

> Thank you for all your advices, I will share them with my friend

> tomorrow morning!

>

> Yes, you can share this communication with the forum. I will forward

> the links to my friend, and I am sure she will be very interested to

> look into them too.

>

> I will let you know how it goes, I am very excited too.

>

> From Norway with love,

> Marita

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Charlotte;

Thanks for sounds like great suggestions -

The heat/cold applications will be working with same principle as the

peppermint oil, I think, which is energyzing, cooling and stimulating

as opposed to the calming and soothing effects of warmth and oils like

chamomile. Kitchen medicine, I love it, simpler and less expensive

(warm/cold).

 

> Hi ladies:

>

> Acupuncture or moxibustion is effective for turning babies, refer to

several acupuncturists

> for this. I also use acupressure. I've had several Moms press

hard on the outside, bottom

> edge of the nailbed of the small toe, several times a day until

desired effect happens.

When you say bottom outside edge, bottom means near the rest of the

toe or?

 

Many reasons for babies not turning including shorter than normal

cords and extensive cord wrapping keeping them from Do y ou have any

idea the percentage? I'm just curious here.

 

> to talk to his older brother about living in NICU ( and with lots of

prayers offered) that baby waited past his due date.

 

Great experience!

 

Warm Regards;

Ysha

[Guest guest]

CranioSacral, of course!!!

And, talking to the baby about what is going for him or her.

Sometimes babies can't because of physical issues of the mother --

so the CST really helps physically to have space, and sometimes

there is an emotional issue for the mother. AND, I believe that the

action of turning from breech (head near mother's heart) is a huge

action one must take. Sort of that first step towards independence.

Mother's issues very big here.

 

Baby know what she or he needs to turn and IF that is her agenda for

birth (and life).

 

Talk to baby! Women need to listen to baby, listen to baby, listen

to baby!

 

" It's the Baby's Birth! "

Janel

http:babykeeper.blogspot.com

www.infantparenthealing.com

 

 

ayurveda , " Martha Oakes "

<AyurDoulas wrote:

>

> Hi Charlotte;

> Thanks for sounds like great suggestions -

> The heat/cold applications will be working with same principle as

the

> peppermint oil, I think, which is energyzing, cooling and

stimulating

> as opposed to the calming and soothing effects of warmth and oils

like

> chamomile. Kitchen medicine, I love it, simpler and less expensive

> (warm/cold).

>

> > Hi ladies:

> >

> > Acupuncture or moxibustion is effective for turning babies,

refer to

> several acupuncturists

> > for this. I also use acupressure. I've had several Moms press

> hard on the outside, bottom

> > edge of the nailbed of the small toe, several times a day until

> desired effect happens.

> When you say bottom outside edge, bottom means near the rest of the

> toe or?

>

> Many reasons for babies not turning including shorter than normal

> cords and extensive cord wrapping keeping them from Do y ou have

any

> idea the percentage? I'm just curious here.

>

> > to talk to his older brother about living in NICU ( and with

lots of

> prayers offered) that baby waited past his due date.

>

> Great experience!

>

> Warm Regards;

> Ysha

>

[Guest guest]

That point is called Bladder 60 in acupuncture and is the bottom of the small

toenail

(closest to the rest of the body) on the outermost side (away from the rest of

the toes).

 

Hugs-

Charlotte Del Toro

 

ayurveda , " Janel Lou Martin Miranda "

<janel_miranda wrote:

>

> CranioSacral, of course!!!

> And, talking to the baby about what is going for him or her.

> Sometimes babies can't because of physical issues of the mother --

> so the CST really helps physically to have space, and sometimes

> there is an emotional issue for the mother. AND, I believe that the

> action of turning from breech (head near mother's heart) is a huge

> action one must take. Sort of that first step towards independence.

> Mother's issues very big here.

>

> Baby know what she or he needs to turn and IF that is her agenda for

> birth (and life).

>

> Talk to baby! Women need to listen to baby, listen to baby, listen

> to baby!

>

> " It's the Baby's Birth! "

> Janel

> http:babykeeper.blogspot.com

> www.infantparenthealing.com

>

>

> ayurveda , " Martha Oakes "

> <AyurDoulas@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Charlotte;

> > Thanks for sounds like great suggestions -

> > The heat/cold applications will be working with same principle as

> the

> > peppermint oil, I think, which is energyzing, cooling and

> stimulating

> > as opposed to the calming and soothing effects of warmth and oils

> like

> > chamomile. Kitchen medicine, I love it, simpler and less expensive

> > (warm/cold).

> >

> > > Hi ladies:

> > >

> > > Acupuncture or moxibustion is effective for turning babies,

> refer to

> > several acupuncturists

> > > for this. I also use acupressure. I've had several Moms press

> > hard on the outside, bottom

> > > edge of the nailbed of the small toe, several times a day until

> > desired effect happens.

> > When you say bottom outside edge, bottom means near the rest of the

> > toe or?

> >

> > Many reasons for babies not turning including shorter than normal

> > cords and extensive cord wrapping keeping them from Do y ou have

> any

> > idea the percentage? I'm just curious here.

> >

> > > to talk to his older brother about living in NICU ( and with

> lots of

> > prayers offered) that baby waited past his due date.

> >

> > Great experience!

> >

> > Warm Regards;

> > Ysha

> >

>