Guest guest Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Yes, I do understand this. I did have her come out but on this particular day little man would not wake up for NOTHING to show her his latch. She tried all the tricks she knew and so did I. I am wondering if it is just a matter of him getting a little bigger....his mouth is so small, my nippy's are so large and it seems like he has a short tongue. I am fair skinned and I recall this happening with my first, I just don't remember how long it lasted. Maybe I should try to have the lactation lady come back. Thanks Vicki VMYORK wrote: Rebecca, we don't really " toughen up " nipples. We have to correct the latch and they will heal. Baby must open wide enough to take in more of the nipple tissue and make sure the lower lip is out and not tucked under. You might want to have a lactation consultant at your hospital look at the latch once. Vicky - " Rebecca Vann " <star_seed111 <ayurveda > Friday, September 23, 2005 10:45 AM Re: green poop and antibiotics or chicken? > No it was linked with not enough rest and holding onto some feelings that really needed to be expressed. We had some good friends who had to evacuate from New Orleans come here to stay, one week b4 the baby and two weeks after. They had a one year old who was VERY vocal (screaming and yelling alot) which led to minimal rest once we did return from the hospital. In my trying to be mindful of their situation I held onto what I really wanted to ask for which was peace and quiet, ie led to manifestation in my body, I think! > I know about the mahasudarshan, and I am poking myself for that one, I just didn't have my wits about me yet and needed to be fixed fast. I have already halfed the dose and will stop altogether on Monday, they are real strong and the infection is gone. I can smell the medicine in his poop which is why i began halfing it. Doing probiotics and lassi daily. > gotta run, baby needs a bath! > bless > Rebecca > ps am feeling better, now that we have our house back! > Anyone got any tricks for toughening up some fair nipples?? > > Martha Oakes <martha wrote: > REbecca, it was the mastitis/inflammation in your system, and the > antibiotics making your poop green, not the chicken. The chicken is > pitta reducing. > > You feeling betta? Quite the ride; wish I could have been there for > you. next time tell me; we used tikta, mahasudarshan, bala, and a > couple other herbs in a formula under guidance of a clinical ayurveda > specialist (sis to that client) along with the Thieves oil blend (re > infection) alt with Peppermint (re fever) 4X daily on her feet, and of > course bedrest and modified diet. Did you link your mastitis with > overdoing? > > Love, > Martha > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2005 Report Share Posted September 25, 2005 I think it would be worth it to have an ibclc see the latch. any size baby mouths and nipples should go together or the species wouldn't have lasted this long. Try to time it so he is due to eat when she gets there. Hope things are getting better, I'm proud of you for persisting. Feel free to write with questions, even though it's kind of hard to solve some things by email. Vicky - " Rebecca Vann " <star_seed111 <ayurveda > Friday, September 23, 2005 2:47 PM nipples > Yes, I do understand this. I did have her come out but on this particular day little man would not wake up for NOTHING to show her his latch. She tried all the tricks she knew and so did I. > I am wondering if it is just a matter of him getting a little bigger....his mouth is so small, my nippy's are so large and it seems like he has a short tongue. I am fair skinned and I recall this happening with my first, I just don't remember how long it lasted. > Maybe I should try to have the lactation lady come back. > Thanks Vicki > > VMYORK wrote: > Rebecca, we don't really " toughen up " nipples. We have to correct the latch > and they will heal. Baby must open wide enough to take in more of the nipple > tissue and make sure the lower lip is out and not tucked under. You might > want to have a lactation consultant at your hospital look at the latch once. > Vicky > > > - > " Rebecca Vann " <star_seed111 > <ayurveda > > Friday, September 23, 2005 10:45 AM > Re: green poop and antibiotics or chicken? > > > > No it was linked with not enough rest and holding onto some feelings that > really needed to be expressed. We had some good friends who had to evacuate > from New Orleans come here to stay, one week b4 the baby and two weeks > after. They had a one year old who was VERY vocal (screaming and yelling > alot) which led to minimal rest once we did return from the hospital. In > my trying to be mindful of their situation I held onto what I really wanted > to ask for which was peace and quiet, ie led to manifestation in my body, I > think! > > I know about the mahasudarshan, and I am poking myself for that one, I > just didn't have my wits about me yet and needed to be fixed fast. I have > already halfed the dose and will stop altogether on Monday, they are real > strong and the infection is gone. I can smell the medicine in his poop > which is why i began halfing it. Doing probiotics and lassi daily. > > gotta run, baby needs a bath! > > bless > > Rebecca > > ps am feeling better, now that we have our house back! > > Anyone got any tricks for toughening up some fair nipples?? > > > > Martha Oakes <martha wrote: > > REbecca, it was the mastitis/inflammation in your system, and the > > antibiotics making your poop green, not the chicken. The chicken is > > pitta reducing. > > > > You feeling betta? Quite the ride; wish I could have been there for > > you. next time tell me; we used tikta, mahasudarshan, bala, and a > > couple other herbs in a formula under guidance of a clinical ayurveda > > specialist (sis to that client) along with the Thieves oil blend (re > > infection) alt with Peppermint (re fever) 4X daily on her feet, and of > > course bedrest and modified diet. Did you link your mastitis with > > overdoing? > > > > Love, > > Martha > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2005 Report Share Posted September 25, 2005 Rebeccah, check to make sure he doesn't have a short frenulum, have the LC look for that. That would keep him from getting his tongue out far enough and under the nipple tissue. When he cries does the piece of skin under his tongue hold his tongue down? Vicky - " Rebecca Vann " <star_seed111 <ayurveda > Friday, September 23, 2005 2:47 PM nipples > Yes, I do understand this. I did have her come out but on this particular day little man would not wake up for NOTHING to show her his latch. She tried all the tricks she knew and so did I. > I am wondering if it is just a matter of him getting a little bigger....his mouth is so small, my nippy's are so large and it seems like he has a short tongue. I am fair skinned and I recall this happening with my first, I just don't remember how long it lasted. > Maybe I should try to have the lactation lady come back. > Thanks Vicki > > VMYORK wrote: > Rebecca, we don't really " toughen up " nipples. We have to correct the latch > and they will heal. Baby must open wide enough to take in more of the nipple > tissue and make sure the lower lip is out and not tucked under. You might > want to have a lactation consultant at your hospital look at the latch once. > Vicky > > > - > " Rebecca Vann " <star_seed111 > <ayurveda > > Friday, September 23, 2005 10:45 AM > Re: green poop and antibiotics or chicken? > > > > No it was linked with not enough rest and holding onto some feelings that > really needed to be expressed. We had some good friends who had to evacuate > from New Orleans come here to stay, one week b4 the baby and two weeks > after. They had a one year old who was VERY vocal (screaming and yelling > alot) which led to minimal rest once we did return from the hospital. In > my trying to be mindful of their situation I held onto what I really wanted > to ask for which was peace and quiet, ie led to manifestation in my body, I > think! > > I know about the mahasudarshan, and I am poking myself for that one, I > just didn't have my wits about me yet and needed to be fixed fast. I have > already halfed the dose and will stop altogether on Monday, they are real > strong and the infection is gone. I can smell the medicine in his poop > which is why i began halfing it. Doing probiotics and lassi daily. > > gotta run, baby needs a bath! > > bless > > Rebecca > > ps am feeling better, now that we have our house back! > > Anyone got any tricks for toughening up some fair nipples?? > > > > Martha Oakes <martha wrote: > > REbecca, it was the mastitis/inflammation in your system, and the > > antibiotics making your poop green, not the chicken. The chicken is > > pitta reducing. > > > > You feeling betta? Quite the ride; wish I could have been there for > > you. next time tell me; we used tikta, mahasudarshan, bala, and a > > couple other herbs in a formula under guidance of a clinical ayurveda > > specialist (sis to that client) along with the Thieves oil blend (re > > infection) alt with Peppermint (re fever) 4X daily on her feet, and of > > course bedrest and modified diet. Did you link your mastitis with > > overdoing? > > > > Love, > > Martha > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2005 Report Share Posted September 25, 2005 REbecca, Sore nipples tend to respond REALLY QUICLY to a few minutes sun twice a day, and ample high lignan flax oil ingested. Better than anything else I know (latch business excluded). Love Marth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2005 Report Share Posted September 25, 2005 Yes, Rebecca, and if you have any yeast developing on your nipples sunlight kills that too. And the male neighbors will be happy, Vicky - " Martha Oakes " <martha <ayurveda > Sunday, September 25, 2005 1:27 PM Re: nipples > REbecca, > Sore nipples tend to respond REALLY QUICLY to a few minutes sun twice > a day, and ample high lignan flax oil ingested. Better than anything > else I know (latch business excluded). > Love > Marth > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Ha, funny! I don't think we have yeast, I've been looking since someone else suggested that, whew. I am going to have the lactation lady come out today. my nippy's are getting better but we still have this annoying nursing relationship thing that I really want to shift so, I'll keep ya posted! Thanks ladies Rebecca VMYORK wrote: Yes, Rebecca, and if you have any yeast developing on your nipples sunlight kills that too. And the male neighbors will be happy, Vicky - " Martha Oakes " <martha <ayurveda > Sunday, September 25, 2005 1:27 PM Re: nipples > REbecca, > Sore nipples tend to respond REALLY QUICLY to a few minutes sun twice > a day, and ample high lignan flax oil ingested. Better than anything > else I know (latch business excluded). > Love > Marth > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 Dear Sister REbecca; How goes the breastfeeding and other postpartum issues? I've been thinking of you, wishing you well. Love, Martha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 Dear Rebecca; I'll call tonight or tomorrow .... Who is this He, anyway! >I don't want to use them forever which was the advice of the person who suggested them (he said to use them indefinitely, that didn't feel right to me!).< Not good odds, there, no offense to the guys, but that's not who to get best advice from as you well know. Whew. I suspected your silence wasn't about all oks, wish you had returned my call early on, not that I could have helped with this one from a distance. Good thing you are such a strong mama. What ayurvedic herbs are you using for yourself, and how is your routine? The AyurDoula care is an ideal of course, but I've seen such great results with moms who just did the self care - self massage, dietary, culinary herbals, rest, keeping in, like that. Love, Martha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Update, So the " he " in the previous email was Seamus' pediatrician, who, in his defense, has a toddler his wife exclusively breasdfed etal... We had gone to see him a few weeks ago off the advice of,the lactation consultant who came to the house, assessing he couldn't stick out his tongue far enough and said to see about clipping the frenulum, as did Vicky off this group as well. Well he had no frenulum to clip , insert nipple shield advice. I've been using those ever since but feel like I shouldn't plan on using them forever which was his suggestion. Went to the breastfeeding center yesterday with Seamus, the lady there taught us a new latch to use, which basically pushes his chin forward first. It helps and sort of works, I feel like he needs to get a little bigger b/c I see a definite improvement in his tongue usage the more time that passes. So now I have the tools and some goals set for being off the shields entirely. I nursed yesterday 4 times without them and today 3 so far.....we will get there. He's gaining weight well, he's almost 12 pounds already! Anyway, Martha, you should call me when you get a chance and feel like talking. Bless Rebecca Martha Oakes <martha wrote: Dear Rebecca; I'll call tonight or tomorrow .... Who is this He, anyway! >I don't want to use them forever which was the advice of the person who suggested them (he said to use them indefinitely, that didn't feel right to me!).< Not good odds, there, no offense to the guys, but that's not who to get best advice from as you well know. Whew. I suspected your silence wasn't about all oks, wish you had returned my call early on, not that I could have helped with this one from a distance. Good thing you are such a strong mama. What ayurvedic herbs are you using for yourself, and how is your routine? The AyurDoula care is an ideal of course, but I've seen such great results with moms who just did the self care - self massage, dietary, culinary herbals, rest, keeping in, like that. Love, Martha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Rebecca, congratulations on perservering. I'm glad to hear he is nursing better. Linda - Rebecca Vann ayurveda Thursday, October 20, 2005 4:32 PM Re: nipples Update, So the " he " in the previous email was Seamus' pediatrician, who, in his defense, has a toddler his wife exclusively breasdfed etal... We had gone to see him a few weeks ago off the advice of,the lactation consultant who came to the house, assessing he couldn't stick out his tongue far enough and said to see about clipping the frenulum, as did Vicky off this group as well. Well he had no frenulum to clip , insert nipple shield advice. I've been using those ever since but feel like I shouldn't plan on using them forever which was his suggestion. Went to the breastfeeding center yesterday with Seamus, the lady there taught us a new latch to use, which basically pushes his chin forward first. It helps and sort of works, I feel like he needs to get a little bigger b/c I see a definite improvement in his tongue usage the more time that passes. So now I have the tools and some goals set for being off the shields entirely. I nursed yesterday 4 times without them and today 3 so far.....we will get there. He's gaining weight well, he's almost 12 pounds already! Anyway, Martha, you should call me when you get a chance and feel like talking. Bless Rebecca Martha Oakes <martha wrote: Dear Rebecca; I'll call tonight or tomorrow .... Who is this He, anyway! >I don't want to use them forever which was the advice of the person who suggested them (he said to use them indefinitely, that didn't feel right to me!).< Not good odds, there, no offense to the guys, but that's not who to get best advice from as you well know. Whew. I suspected your silence wasn't about all oks, wish you had returned my call early on, not that I could have helped with this one from a distance. Good thing you are such a strong mama. What ayurvedic herbs are you using for yourself, and how is your routine? The AyurDoula care is an ideal of course, but I've seen such great results with moms who just did the self care - self massage, dietary, culinary herbals, rest, keeping in, like that. Love, Martha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 Yea, Rebecca! You have done really well, lucky boy you have for sure. Please forgive the no call yet ... tried a few times it didn't work, and I'm swampt with 3 years old tax records to now file even tho they will owe me, otherwise they " filed for me " (didin't know they could do that!) and without my deductions, are showing a whopping bill. Sigh. So I'm mostly home, but really tied to this and now can't send email for some crazy karmic reason. Spent hours on the phone and net before having to drop it. Sounds like you've done the job well anyway, but if you feel you need some couseling with herbs or? let me know. 641 472-1695. Love, Martha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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