thrush discussion - more notes

[Guest guest]

A new student who hopefully will introduce herself shortly has clients

with thrush - three of women with babies coming to the yoga studio.

In reviewing my materials, we have much good info in the files, but

this also showed itself from my resources, so I offer it up into the

collection. As I am not doing much clinical work and rarely had this

come up, others will have to share their client successes - please!

 

Our training notes in the PPC (postpartum Counseling) collection

include 3 pages on candida with some notes on thrush, such as Dr.

Lad's formula for babies. He says it is often linked to diabetes in

the family, means breast milk may be too sweet also.

 

Mix the following with mothers milk, give ¼ tsp TID (3x daily): equal

parts: Vidanga, Shardunika and daruharidra (antifungal I have not

heard of). I was given this previous info in a seminar with him.

 

In the Essential Oils Desk Reference listed under Candida, page 299

3rd edition, is some detail on many essential oils which may be used

for infant thrush. Please I must always give warning to safe use,

which is found at http://www.sacredwindow.com/EO-Basics.html . In the

desk reference, Exact protocol is not given, some listed eoils

included in formula below.

 

The following 7 tipssummary are also offered for combating systemic

candida, which is a good assumption if thrush manifests, on mother's

nipples, babies mouth, or any woman vaginally.

 

1. Alkalyze

2. Reduce yeast creating foods including all acid forming foods, and

especially yeasted breads, fermented foods such as pickles, miso and

cheeses (fermented ones especially).

3. Reduce stress

4. Reduce antibiotic exposure

5. Support thyroid function

6. Increase Agni/digestive fire (alternative medicine uses enzymes,

Ayurveda supports the rekindling of our own)

7. Use Pre and Probiotics. Prebiotic note humble FOS

(fructo-oligo-saccrides) are quite valuable (available in some stevia

preparations such as " Stevia Select " sold by Young Living. There may

be a similar product sold in health food stores, but not sure if

includes FOS. The pro-bios such as acidophilis.

 

If it was my baby, I would do something like this if Dr. Caldecott's

yoghurt/whey swab and other methods were insufficient.

 

5 parts Melaleuca Ericafolia (gentler variety of tea tree, great for

children, avail from Young Living)

5 parts Roman Chamomile

3 parts Immupower (blend, Young Living)

2 Parts each: Rosewood, Rosemary Cineol, Bergamot

 

Much care must be taken with the bergamot not to be applied where the

sun will shine on skin for 72 hours in order to avoid a severe burn.

(If well diluted, the probability is some tanning instead.)

 

Total parts is 20 (about 2/3 tsp, tsp counting about 36 drops). Using

this many drops to 1 Tbs 2 tsp carrier oil – sesame, flax like that

mix well in jar to how many days to be taken at 3X daily, 3 drops

internal and wipe the mouth with 2 more. 7 – 10 days or as longer

than " needed " .

 

I would undoubtedly have systemic yeast as well if my baby did, and so

be advised to wisely take ½ tsp 3X daily for 5 – 15 days.

 

Jessica Wild, hostess of an essential oils group called wildharvest

with years experience and amazing results with them, favors

frankincense oil neet (straight) appied inside baby's mouth; does not

sting. She unfortunately does not have ayurveda with which to answer

broader and more enduring needs.

 

Looks like we have many options from which to make a good set of

protocols in service to diverse population needs.

 

Martha

[Guest guest]

Hello all:

 

I am new to this group - very nice to meet you all! My name is Cora,

I am a Certified Ayurvedic Practitioner and I have just begun

training as a postpartum doula with Martha.

 

I am currently working with a mother who has recurring thrush and I

would love to hear all possible feedback on the topic (Martha,

thanks so much for your guidance below!). Both she and babe are on

their 3rd round of antibiotics and I am very worried about both!

What are your experiences with diet, herbs and oils to treat and

prevent? How about rebuilding intestinal flora in the baby after so

many antibiotics? I meet with the mother and baby this week and will

send more details on her condition then. In the meantime thanks for

any more thoughts or info. you might have...

 

Best,

Cora

 

 

 

ayurveda , " Martha Oakes "

<martha@s...> wrote:

>

> A new student who hopefully will introduce herself shortly has

clients

> with thrush - three of women with babies coming to the yoga

studio.

> In reviewing my materials, we have much good info in the files, but

> this also showed itself from my resources, so I offer it up into

the

> collection. As I am not doing much clinical work and rarely had

this

> come up, others will have to share their client successes - please!

>

> Our training notes in the PPC (postpartum Counseling) collection

> include 3 pages on candida with some notes on thrush, such as Dr.

> Lad's formula for babies. He says it is often linked to diabetes

in

> the family, means breast milk may be too sweet also.

>

> Mix the following with mothers milk, give ¼ tsp TID (3x daily):

equal

> parts: Vidanga, Shardunika and daruharidra (antifungal I have not

> heard of). I was given this previous info in a seminar with him.

>

> In the Essential Oils Desk Reference listed under Candida, page 299

> 3rd edition, is some detail on many essential oils which may be

used

> for infant thrush. Please I must always give warning to safe use,

> which is found at http://www.sacredwindow.com/EO-Basics.html . In

the

> desk reference, Exact protocol is not given, some listed eoils

> included in formula below.

>

> The following 7 tipssummary are also offered for combating systemic

> candida, which is a good assumption if thrush manifests, on

mother's

> nipples, babies mouth, or any woman vaginally.

>

> 1. Alkalyze

> 2. Reduce yeast creating foods including all acid forming

foods, and

> especially yeasted breads, fermented foods such as pickles, miso

and

> cheeses (fermented ones especially).

> 3. Reduce stress

> 4. Reduce antibiotic exposure

> 5. Support thyroid function

> 6. Increase Agni/digestive fire (alternative medicine uses

enzymes,

> Ayurveda supports the rekindling of our own)

> 7. Use Pre and Probiotics. Prebiotic note humble FOS

> (fructo-oligo-saccrides) are quite valuable (available in some

stevia

> preparations such as " Stevia Select " sold by Young Living. There

may

> be a similar product sold in health food stores, but not sure if

> includes FOS. The pro-bios such as acidophilis.

>

> If it was my baby, I would do something like this if Dr.

Caldecott's

> yoghurt/whey swab and other methods were insufficient.

>

> 5 parts Melaleuca Ericafolia (gentler variety of tea tree, great

for

> children, avail from Young Living)

> 5 parts Roman Chamomile

> 3 parts Immupower (blend, Young Living)

> 2 Parts each: Rosewood, Rosemary Cineol, Bergamot

>

> Much care must be taken with the bergamot not to be applied where

the

> sun will shine on skin for 72 hours in order to avoid a severe

burn.

> (If well diluted, the probability is some tanning instead.)

>

> Total parts is 20 (about 2/3 tsp, tsp counting about 36 drops).

Using

> this many drops to 1 Tbs 2 tsp carrier oil – sesame, flax like that

> mix well in jar to how many days to be taken at 3X daily, 3 drops

> internal and wipe the mouth with 2 more. 7 – 10 days or as longer

> than " needed " .

>

> I would undoubtedly have systemic yeast as well if my baby did,

and so

> be advised to wisely take ½ tsp 3X daily for 5 – 15 days.

>

> Jessica Wild, hostess of an essential oils group called wildharvest

> with years experience and amazing results with them, favors

> frankincense oil neet (straight) appied inside baby's mouth; does

not

> sting. She unfortunately does not have ayurveda with which to

answer

> broader and more enduring needs.

>

> Looks like we have many options from which to make a good set of

> protocols in service to diverse population needs.

>

> Martha

[Guest guest]

Hi Cora;

You have your hands full, sounds like, already! I'm not up currently

on the best probiotics for babies, but am sure Vicki or Adrienne knows

....? Definitely part of the program. I was just reading the product

catalogue for FLora brand which is usually such excellent products,

but their baby probiotics (and adult) are all dairy free, which

according to Dr. Gary Young's research will not implant/grow in the

colon; one has to keep giving it. I would be careful of that factor

when choosing.

Martha