Guest guest Posted December 23, 2002 Report Share Posted December 23, 2002 I loved JoAnn's article about potassium. Potassium is SO important, and it's ridiculous how small the vitamins are (99mg per pill is all that's allowed by our wonderful FDA...) If you're low-carbing and want to skip the potatoes & bananas you could always buy Nu-Salt and shake a little on your food each day. Here is an excerpt from an online article about the importance and relation of potassium and magnesium. Deficiency in one leads to deficiency in the other, which leads to heart disease, etc. To see the whole article, here's the URL http://www.drumlib.com/dp/000014.htm " Diuretics And Magnesium My mother has congestive heart failure. Although I told her (many times) about the benefits of supplements, she did not want to take them: " I have to take a handful of drugs everyday and I don't want to take ANY more pills " was her usual response. Trips to the emergency room occurred frequently. And, as if that wasn't bad enough, the diuretics (water pills) that she was getting from her doctor were depleting her potassium and endangering her life. The best that several doctors and a heart specialist could do was to give her potassium-sparing diuretics and higher doses of potassium. This did no good because she was not retaining the potassium. Eventually, her potassium got so low that she almost died -- I found her on the floor unable to move. Another trip to the emergency room. This traumatic experience convinced my mother that the doctors were unable to get a handle on this potassium problem. She didn't want to end up paralyzed again, so she agreed to take whatever I thought would help this potassium problem -- as long as it involved a " reasonable " amount of pills (I take a LOT of supplements). That night I did a MEDLINE computer search of the medical literature. For the life of me, I can't imagine why the doctors and the specialist (expensivist?) couldn't figure the problem out -- the reason why my mother was unable to retain potassium was easy to find. In fact, there is so much research on this that it's hard not to trip over it. You do NOT have to be Sherlock Holmes, dig? Here are a few clues: A medical article titled " Refractory potassium repletion. A consequence of magnesium deficiency " explains how diuretics flush a lot more than potassium out of your system -- and if (when) you get low in magnesium, you will be unable to retain potassium: " Patients with hypertension and with congestive heart failure appear to be at special risk for magnesium depletion because diuretics are commonly prescribed in treatment . . . Experimental and clinical observations support the view that uncorrected magnesium deficiency impairs repletion of cellular potassium . . . consideration should be given to treating hypokalemic [low potassium] patients with both magnesium as well as potassium to avoid the problem of refractory potassium repletion due to coexisting magnesium deficiency " (19). [emphasis added] Consideration??? I nominate that for the understatement of the year award. Lets see . . . hmm . . . If the patient doesn't take magnesium supplements, she will die. Hmm . . . Maybe we should give them thar suppulments some " consideration. " What do you think, Jethro? " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2002 Report Share Posted December 24, 2002 ---This is so true Mindy. My husband had to be hospitalized recently and came close to losing his life taking diuretics. Upon his arrival home he was so dehydrated he could barely breathe. We discovered on Webmd that there was an interaction between several drugs they were giving him and the diuretics and of course and the dehydration was due in part to the lack of supplementation during his stay there (vitamins aren't allowed in these facilities of course). Allopaths recommend diurectics for high blood pressure and swollen feet, when they simply aren't the answer and they tend to dehydrate and lead to depletion of our *mineral* stores. Few people realize how dangerous these diuretic drugs really are! They can interact with other meds leading to toxicity and even death! There are other natural ways to deal with swollen feet and high blood pressure. High potassium foods are a very good start! Sodium is just detrimental when there isn't enough potassium present. When there is enough potassium in the body, the excess sodium just passes on out of the body without causing any damage. If this were common knowledge, the drug companies would go under as we all know that high blood pressure medication is one of their most popular drugs! And yet after all this, I heard on the news several nights previous that doctors are presently recommending diuretics over other newer high blood pressure drugs. The reason being they're so much safer. Yikes! Hello! Tom was on the brink of dying and now I hear them saying all this? Thanks for the article and thanks for the affirmation. Natural is always best. Just a few organic unsalted raw nuts tend to provide our potassium quotas,provided we eat less processed & canned food and substitute sea salt for Mortons. It is only the refined salt and sodium that is problematic! JoAnn Guest mrsjoguest Friendsforhealthnaturally DietaryTipsForHBP http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/AIM.html In Gettingwell , Mindy Behymer <mindyb@s...> wrote: > I loved JoAnn's article about potassium. Potassium is SO important, and > it's ridiculous how small the vitamins are (99mg per pill is all that's > allowed by our wonderful FDA...) If you're low-carbing and want to > skip the potatoes & bananas you could always buy Nu-Salt and shake a > little on your food each day. > > Here is an excerpt from an online article about the importance and > relation of potassium and magnesium. Deficiency in one leads to > deficiency in the other, which leads to heart disease, etc. To see > the whole article, here's the URL http://www.drumlib.com/dp/000014.htm > > " Diuretics And Magnesium > My mother has congestive heart failure. Although I told her (many times) > about the benefits of supplements, she did not want to take them: " I > have to take a handful of drugs everyday and I don't want to take ANY > more pills " was her usual response. Trips to the emergency room occurred > frequently. And, as if that wasn't bad enough, the diuretics (water > pills) that she was getting from her doctor were depleting her potassium > and endangering her life. > > The best that several doctors and a heart specialist could do was to > give her potassium-sparing diuretics and higher doses of potassium. This > did no good because she was not retaining the potassium. Eventually, her > potassium got so low that she almost died -- I found her on the floor > unable to move. Another trip to the emergency room. > > This traumatic experience convinced my mother that the doctors were > unable to get a handle on this potassium problem. She didn't want to end > up paralyzed again, so she agreed to take whatever I thought would help > this potassium problem -- as long as it involved a " reasonable " amount > of pills (I take a LOT of supplements). > > That night I did a MEDLINE computer search of the medical literature. > For the life of me, I can't imagine why the doctors and the specialist > (expensivist?) couldn't figure the problem out -- the reason why my > mother was unable to retain potassium was easy to find. In fact, there > is so much research on this that it's hard not to trip over it. You do > NOT have to be Sherlock Holmes, dig? Here are a few clues: > > A medical article titled " Refractory potassium repletion. A consequence > of magnesium deficiency " explains how diuretics flush a lot more than > potassium out of your system -- and if (when) you get low in magnesium, > you will be unable to retain potassium: > > " Patients with hypertension and with congestive heart failure appear to > be at special risk for magnesium depletion because diuretics are > commonly prescribed in treatment . . . Experimental and clinical > observations support the view that uncorrected magnesium deficiency > impairs repletion of cellular potassium . . . consideration should be > given to treating hypokalemic [low potassium] patients with both > magnesium as well as potassium to avoid the problem of refractory > potassium repletion due to coexisting magnesium deficiency " (19). > [emphasis added] > > Consideration??? I nominate that for the understatement of the year > award. Lets see . . . hmm . . . If the patient doesn't take magnesium > supplements, she will die. Hmm . . . Maybe we should give them thar > suppulments some " consideration. " What do you think, Jethro? " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2002 Report Share Posted December 25, 2002 What is in refined salt that is not in sea salt?I have high BP and maybe I would profit from sea salt. Em - <angelprincessjo Monday, December 23, 2002 9:17 PM Re: JoAnn, that was great! And to add... > ---This is so true Mindy. My husband had to be hospitalized recently > and came close to losing his life taking diuretics. Upon his arrival > home he was so dehydrated he could barely breathe. We discovered on > Webmd that there was an interaction between several drugs they were > giving him and the diuretics and of course and the dehydration was > due in part to the lack of supplementation during his stay there > (vitamins aren't allowed in these facilities of course). > > Allopaths recommend diurectics for high blood pressure and swollen > feet, when they simply aren't the answer and they tend to dehydrate > and lead to depletion of our *mineral* stores. > Few people realize how dangerous these diuretic drugs really are! > They can interact with other meds leading to toxicity and even death! > > There are other natural ways to deal with swollen feet and high > blood pressure. High potassium foods are a very good start! > Sodium is just detrimental when there isn't enough potassium > present. When there is enough potassium in the body, the excess > sodium just passes on out of the body without causing any damage. > If this were common knowledge, the drug companies would go under as > we all know that high blood pressure medication is one of their most > popular drugs! And yet after all this, I heard on the news several > nights previous that doctors are presently recommending diuretics > over other newer high blood pressure drugs. The reason being they're > so much safer. Yikes! > Hello! Tom was on the brink of dying and now I hear them saying all > this? > Thanks for the article and thanks for the affirmation. > > Natural is always best. Just a few organic unsalted raw nuts tend to > provide our potassium quotas,provided we eat less processed & canned > food and substitute sea salt for Mortons. It is only the refined salt > and sodium that is problematic! > > JoAnn Guest > mrsjoguest > Friendsforhealthnaturally > DietaryTipsForHBP > http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/AIM.html > > In Gettingwell , Mindy Behymer <mindyb@s...> wrote: > > I loved JoAnn's article about potassium. Potassium is SO > important, and > > it's ridiculous how small the vitamins are (99mg per pill is all > that's > > allowed by our wonderful FDA...) If you're low-carbing and want to > > skip the potatoes & bananas you could always buy Nu-Salt and shake a > > little on your food each day. > > > > Here is an excerpt from an online article about the importance and > > relation of potassium and magnesium. Deficiency in one leads to > > deficiency in the other, which leads to heart disease, etc. To > see > > the whole article, here's the URL > http://www.drumlib.com/dp/000014.htm > > > > " Diuretics And Magnesium > > My mother has congestive heart failure. Although I told her (many > times) > > about the benefits of supplements, she did not want to take them: " I > > have to take a handful of drugs everyday and I don't want to take > ANY > > more pills " was her usual response. Trips to the emergency room > occurred > > frequently. And, as if that wasn't bad enough, the diuretics (water > > pills) that she was getting from her doctor were depleting her > potassium > > and endangering her life. > > > > The best that several doctors and a heart specialist could do was to > > give her potassium-sparing diuretics and higher doses of potassium. > This > > did no good because she was not retaining the potassium. > Eventually, her > > potassium got so low that she almost died -- I found her on the > floor > > unable to move. Another trip to the emergency room. > > > > This traumatic experience convinced my mother that the doctors were > > unable to get a handle on this potassium problem. She didn't want > to end > > up paralyzed again, so she agreed to take whatever I thought would > help > > this potassium problem -- as long as it involved a " reasonable " > amount > > of pills (I take a LOT of supplements). > > > > That night I did a MEDLINE computer search of the medical > literature. > > For the life of me, I can't imagine why the doctors and the > specialist > > (expensivist?) couldn't figure the problem out -- the reason why my > > mother was unable to retain potassium was easy to find. In fact, > there > > is so much research on this that it's hard not to trip over it. You > do > > NOT have to be Sherlock Holmes, dig? Here are a few clues: > > > > A medical article titled " Refractory potassium repletion. A > consequence > > of magnesium deficiency " explains how diuretics flush a lot more > than > > potassium out of your system -- and if (when) you get low in > magnesium, > > you will be unable to retain potassium: > > > > " Patients with hypertension and with congestive heart failure > appear to > > be at special risk for magnesium depletion because diuretics are > > commonly prescribed in treatment . . . Experimental and clinical > > observations support the view that uncorrected magnesium deficiency > > impairs repletion of cellular potassium . . . consideration should > be > > given to treating hypokalemic [low potassium] patients with both > > magnesium as well as potassium to avoid the problem of refractory > > potassium repletion due to coexisting magnesium deficiency " (19). > > [emphasis added] > > > > Consideration??? I nominate that for the understatement of the year > > award. Lets see . . . hmm . . . If the patient doesn't take > magnesium > > supplements, she will die. Hmm . . . Maybe we should give them thar > > suppulments some " consideration. " What do you think, Jethro? " > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health and well being. > > list or archives: Gettingwell > > ........ Gettingwell- > post............. Gettingwell > digest form...... Gettingwell-digest > individual emails Gettingwell-normal > no email......... Gettingwell-nomail > moderator ....... Gettingwell-owner > ...... Gettingwell- > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2002 Report Share Posted December 25, 2002 ---Happy Holidays! I am sending on a segment from the Celtic Sea Salt website which might help to answer some of your questions regarding the difference between refined salts and sea salts. http://www.celtic-seasalt.com/whatincelsea.html " Common table salt lacks minerals and trace elements because it is purified and refined, leaving only sodium and chloride. After refining, common table salt is mixed with iodine, bleaching agents, and anti-caking agents to create a purely white, free-flowing product. " http://www.celtic-seasalt.com/whatincelsea.html " Lynne August, M.D. says that when isolated sodium chloride (i.e. common table salt) is used, it affects the body like a drug. Celtic Sea Salt®, a whole salt, naturally contains a variety of minerals that each play a part in the way that the body effectively uses this salt. All of these minerals are important to the process of assimilation of food. We believe very strongly in the whole food concept. Whole foods, as they present themselves to us in nature, contain a variety of balanced nutrients. Even though some of these nutrients may be minuscule, each contributes to the nutritive power of that food. When whole foods are fractionated and processed, that nutritive power decreases beyond the loss of the actual, individual nutrients. In our opinion, Celtic Sea Salt® salt contains a wide variety of minerals and trace elements and is a vitally important part of our diet. " " When common table salt is processed and fractionated, this loss of nutrients affects the way the body can make use of the remaining minerals, sodium and chloride. " Best Regards, JoAnn Guest mrsjoguest Friendsforhealthnaturally DietaryTipsForHBP http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/AIM.html In Gettingwell , " Emily Bradford " <emilyjoeb@c...> wrote: > What is in refined salt that is not in sea salt?I have high BP and maybe I > would profit from sea salt. > Em > - > Monday, December 23, 2002 9:17 PM > Re: JoAnn, that was great! And to add... > > ---This is so true Mindy. My husband had to be hospitalized recently > > and came close to losing his life taking diuretics. Upon his arrival > > home he was so dehydrated he could barely breathe. We discovered on > > Webmd that there was an interaction between several drugs they were > > giving him and the diuretics and of course and the dehydration was > > due in part to the lack of supplementation during his stay there > > (vitamins aren't allowed in these facilities of course). > > > > Allopaths recommend diurectics for high blood pressure and swollen > > feet, when they simply aren't the answer and they tend to dehydrate > > and lead to depletion of our *mineral* stores. > > Few people realize how dangerous these diuretic drugs really are! > > They can interact with other meds leading to toxicity and even > > There are other natural ways to deal with swollen feet and high > > blood pressure. High potassium foods are a very good start! > > Sodium is just detrimental when there isn't enough potassium > > present. When there is enough potassium in the body, the excess > > sodium just passes on out of the body without causing any damage. > > Natural is always best. Just a few organic unsalted raw nuts tend > > provide our potassium quotas,provided we eat less processed & canned > > food and substitute sea salt for Mortons. It is only the refined salt and sodium that is problematic! > > > > In Gettingwell , Mindy Behymer <mindyb@s...> wrote: > > > I loved JoAnn's article about potassium. Potassium is SO > > important, and > > > it's ridiculous how small the vitamins are (99mg per pill is all > > that's > > > allowed by our wonderful FDA...) If you're low-carbing and want to > > > skip the potatoes & bananas you could always buy Nu-Salt and shake a > > > little on your food each day. > > > > > > Here is an excerpt from an online article about the importance and > > > relation of potassium and magnesium. Deficiency in one leads to > > > deficiency in the other, which leads to heart disease, etc. To > > see > > > the whole article, here's the URL > > http://www.drumlib.com/dp/000014.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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