Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 Two hundred young adults (college age) recently participated in the first smallpox vaccine trial. Here is a news article reporting on this. http://www.stratiawire.com/article.asp?id=750 Monday, December 09, 2002 SMALLPOX VACCINE RESULTS ARE IN DECEMBER 9. The first returns are in on the smallpox vaccine. A recent multi-center US government clinical trial on 200 “young adults†has been completed. MSNBC reports. The volunteers who got the shot were VERY healthy to begin with. One researcher, Kathy Edwards, called them the “crème de la crème.†Okay? So get this. “Yet when she [Edwards] inoculated them with smallpox vaccine, arms swelled, temperatures spiked and panic spread [at Baylor University]. It was the same at clinics in Iowa, Tennessee, and California.†Stats: After the shot, one-third of the volunteers missed at least a day of work or school. 75 out of 200 experienced high fever. “Several were put on antibiotics because physicians worried that their blisters signaled a bacterial infection.†Wow. And look, smallpox is a VIRUS, and antibiotics DON’T WORK against viruses. So, in essence, the researchers were inferring that the vaccine SUPPRESSED THE IMMUNE SYSTEMS of the volunteers---thus allowing bacterial infections to bloom suddenly---OR the vaccine was contaminated with bacteria to begin with. Researcher Edwards, who headed up the study, said, “I can read all day about it [the adverse effects of the vaccine], but seeing it is quite impressive. The reactions we saw were really quite remarkable.†When a researcher makes a comment like this, you know some very bad things are happening. AND THIS WAS A POPULATION OF EXTREMELY HEALTHY VOLUNTEERS. YOUNG ADULTS WHO SHOULD BE AT THE VERY PEAK OF LIFE, WITH THEIR IMMUNE DEFENSES FULLY INTACT. Of course, this story didn’t get much play in the press. But the handwriting is on the wall. Anyone can see what’ll happen if they start shooting up people by the millions with the vaccine. For example, people who don’t qualify as severely immune suppressed by any obvious assessment, but still do, in fact, have reduced immune capacity---AND THAT IS A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE.---these folks will be AT GREAT RISK from the vaccine. This government study is KEY. Because later on, they will try to cover up the devastating effects of the vaccine. They will lie, distort, omit. But right now, here it is. Out in the open. The results, for all to see. Let me tell you something. The CDC WANTED to release the results of this study. They wanted to go on the record now, before the stuff really hits the fan. They are very frightened of being nailed for killing people with the vaccine. 8888888 However as a homeopathic physician those who got this reaction if they do not go on to developing future problems from the mercury or other elements of the vaccine will go on to the best immunity. 4 stages of getting vaccines 1. No reaction the person had a natural immunity and probably did not need the vaccine 2. A very mild reaction redness soreness. This person runs the risk of possibly getting the disease. It contacted the vital force but may or may not have stimulated the immunity. It depends on the person. However it is preferable to severe reactions. 3. Severe reactions such as swelling fevers etc. The Vital force (or Qi) reacted fully and immunity should be in place. 4. death. No one knows if they are the 1-2 in a million who will die from the vaccine. However they are not publishing the stats of how many other long term problems arise from use of the vaccine. Here's another story on the smallpox vaccine Varicella Outbreak at a Day-Care Center despite Vaccination New England Journal of Medicine Volume 347:1909-1915 December 12, 2002 Number 24 Outbreak of Varicella at a Day-Care Center despite Vaccination Karin Galil, M.D., M.P.H., Brent Lee, M.D., M.P.H., Tara Strine, M.P.H., Claire Carraher, R.N., Andrew L. Baughman, Ph.D., M.P.H., Melinda Eaton, D.V.M., Jose Montero, M.D., and Jane Seward, M.B., B.S., M.P.H. ABSTRACT Background In seven studies of the effectiveness of the varicella vaccine conducted since it was licensed, the effectiveness was 71 to 100 percent against disease of any severity and 95 to 100 percent against moderate and severe disease. We investigated an outbreak of varicella in a population of children with a high proportion of vaccinees who were attending a day-care center in a small community in New Hampshire. Methods Using standardized questionnaires, we collected information about the children's medical and vaccination history from parents and health care providers. The analysis of the effectiveness of the vaccine and of risk factors for vaccine failure was restricted to children who were enrolled in the day-care center continuously during the outbreak and attended for one week or more and who were cared for in the building that represented the epicenter of the outbreak, since transmission was not documented in a second building. Results Varicella developed in 25 of 88 children (28.4 percent) between December 1, 2000, and January 11, 2001. The index case occurred in a healthy child who had been vaccinated three years previously and who infected more than 50 percent of his classmates who had no history of varicella. The effectiveness of the vaccine was 44.0 percent (95 percent confidence interval, 6.9 to 66.3 percent) against disease of any severity and 86.0 percent (95 percent confidence interval, 38.7 to 96.8 percent) against moderate or severe disease. Children who had been vaccinated three years or more before the outbreak were at greater risk for vaccine failure than those who had been vaccinated more recently (relative risk, 2.6 [95 percent confidence interval, 1.3 to 5.3]). Conclusions In this outbreak, vaccination provided poor protection against varicella, although there was good protection against moderate or severe disease. A longer interval since vaccination was associated with an increased risk of vaccine failure. Breakthrough infections in vaccinated, healthy persons can be as infectious as varicella in unvaccinated persons. http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/347/24/1909?query=TOC Here is an accurate account of the ramifications of the rider in the Homeland Security Bill that protects Eli Lilly and others who have used thimerosal in vaccines from being sued in state courts. Mercury Falling Homeland Security Act inoculates drug makers against autism lawsuits BY CHRIS LYDGATE 11.27.02 Williamette Week Online When President George W. Bush signed the Homeland Security Act in the White House on Monday, he praised the bill as a " heroic action " that demonstrated " the resolve of this great nation to defend our freedom, our security and our way of life. " Three thousand miles away, Portland lawyer Mike Williams rolled his eyes. Williams represents hundreds of families who are suing pharmaceutical companies--in particular, Eli Lilly--over a mercury-based preservative used in some childhood vaccines. The families contend that the preservative triggered neurological damage in their children, who have been diagnosed with autism. Read on... http://www.wweek.com/flatfiles/News3373.lasso I think the real issue is not should we vaccinate or not. In my mind, the real issues are: -- the withholding of full information on vaccines; -- and the lack of freedom in some states to choose to not vaccinate; -- the use of less expensive materials in vaccines despite the knowledge of higher toxicity. For instance: -- clinical studies done by the two manufacturers of the Hep B vaccine were four and five days in length; other vaccine trials are several days to several weeks; -- National Academy of Sciences Institute of Medicine reported this on vaccines: " In the course of its review, the committee encountered many gaps and limitations in knowledge bearing directly and indirectly on the safety of vaccines. These include inadequate understanding of the biologic mechanisms underlying adverse events following natural infection or immunization, insufficient or inconsistent information from case reports and case series, inadequate size or length of follow-up of many population-based epidemiologic studies, and limited capacity of existing surveillance systems of vaccine injury to provide persuasive evidence of causation. The committee found few experimental studies published in relation to the number of epidemiological studies published. Clearly, if research capacity and accomplishment in these area are not improved, future reviews of vaccine safety will be similarly handicapped. " -- Baby deaths may be linked to toxic vaccine; Antony Barnett and Tracy McVeigh Sunday, July 8, 2001 The Observer The British drug company Glaxo Wellcome allowed thousands of British babies to be inoculated with toxic whooping cough vaccines it knew had not passed crucial safety tests. http://www.observer.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,518459,00.html -- Pluserix was banned by the Department of Health in 1992 after being linked with meningitis. This was two years after an identical vaccine was banned in Canada. -- August 5, 2001 THE Department of Health has told doctors they must use stocks of a mercury-based vaccine for infants even though it is being phased out for safety reasons. Sunday Times http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/ -- Sunday July 8, 2001 The British drug company Glaxo Wellcome allowed thousands of British babies to be inoculated with toxic whooping cough vaccines it knew had not passed crucial safety tests. http://www.observer.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,518459,00.html -- In January of 2002, Barbara Loe Fisher, Co-founder & President National Vaccine Information Center, testified before the California Senate Committee on Health and Human Services hearing entitled, " Childhood Immunization Mandates: Politics vs. Public Health " She said: " The Prevnar pre-licensure clinical trials, which Wyeth Lederle paid Kaiser Permanente to conduct, compared two experimental vaccines against each other. To compound this basic methodological flaw, Kaiser and Wyeth Lederle, allowed most of the children in the trial to be given the more reactive DPT vaccine rather than use the safer, less reactive DTaP vaccine. This placed the children in that five-year experiment in greater danger and allowed the drug company to write off the seizures that occurred as being caused by DPT and not Prevnar, when in fact, they didn't know. Even so, the groups of children who got Prevnar suffered more seizures, higher fevers, more irritability and other reactions than did the children who got the other experimental vaccine. It was a no-brainer as far as I was concerned: Kaiser and Wyeth Lederle had proved nothing about Prevnar vaccine safety. " The issues in vaccination are no different from the issues faced in medicine-at-large. The U.S. Congress publication, " Assessing the Efficacy and Safety of Medical Technologies " quoted 80% to 90% of medical treatments, including drugs, as being unproven. This was from the late 1970's. The estimate now is that 70-80% of medical treatments remain unproven. As long as people chose a more pleasant myth, we will struggle to bring these issues out where they can be appropriately addressed. A website devoted to vaccination info news (NVICNews) Full Committee Hearing on " Vaccines and the Autism Epidemic:Reviewing the Federal Government's Track Record and Charting aCourse For the Future " Live on line at Tuesday, December 101:00 p.m. eastern: <A HREF= " http://64.4.8.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN & lah=aea9f7d2b34c47bedd2b7ac93ef3\ cd4e & lat=1039795168 & hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2ehouse%2egov%2freform%2fschedu\ le%2ehtm " > http://www.house.gov/reform/schedule.htm</A> Sunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 There is a book called Natural Healing for Babies and Children by Aviva Jill Romm. There is a section that deals with the illnesses that people generally vaccinate for such as whooping cough. It includes emergency signals also. It's a great book. It's not an Ayurvedic book, but a wonderful book anyway. I would recommend it to any holistic parent/caregiver. The Crossing Press $16.95 For support groups and other information regarding vaccines: National Vaccine Information Center http://www.909shot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Thank you, good information. You didn't sign your name, but I appreciate your input. Vicky York ---- kalavatidevi108 06/15/05 15:09:42 ayurveda Re: vaccinations There is a book called Natural Healing for Babies and Children by Aviva Jill Romm. There is a section that deals with the illnesses that people generally vaccinate for such as whooping cough. It includes emergency signals also. It's a great book. It's not an Ayurvedic book, but a wonderful book anyway. I would recommend it to any holistic parent/caregiver. The Crossing Press $16.95 For support groups and other information regarding vaccines: National Vaccine Information Center http://www.909shot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 Hi Kalavadevi! Thanks for this input! I've seen something by Aviva Jill and remember being positively impressed, although I don't own the book and can't comment/compare ayurvedic notes. (would be fun, and sounds like this would make it easier to answer the question at large!). Martha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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