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Guest guest Posted December 11, 2002 Report Share Posted December 11, 2002 > I am trying to get off the 3 pills I take daily but so far > Nutritional Supplements have not helped to eliminate these; Any > suggestions? Thanks Keith keithyeatts@h... What nutritional supplements have you been taking? What sort of eating/exersize plan are you on? Is your weight and/or genetics a factor? Penel with those silly rhetorical questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 --- Wasted away from Diabetes: Herbal Cures JoAnn Guest Sep 25, 2002 11:16 PDT " JoAnn Guest " <angelpri-; Wed Sep 25, 2002 1:03 pm Wasted away from Diabetes? " Lorenzo " <lore-@w...>; wrote: Our Friend has lost most of her muscle from diabetes. Is there a Diabetes help group that we can ask to help the family how to care better for her,or to maybe get the correct Medicare Dr. on the case. We live 12 hours away by car. We go there twice a year. Lorenzo JoAnn Guest May 07, 2002 10:14 PDT Herbal Recommendations for Diabetes Before the advent of insulin, diabetes was treated with plant medicines. In 1980 the World Health Organization urged researchers to examine whether traditional medicines possessed any real medicinal effects. In the last 10-20 years scientific investigation has, in fact,confirmed the efficacy of many of these preparations, some of which are remarkably effective. This discussion is, of necessity, limited to a few plants—those that appear most effective are relatively nontoxic, and have substantial documentation of efficacy. The following plants are discussed: onions and garlic, bitter melon, Gymnema Sylvestre, fenugreek, salt bush, and pterocarpus. In addition, three other herbal medicines (bilberry, grape seed, and ginkgo extracts) are discussed because of their important roles in dealing with diabetic complications. Even though the herbs described here possess blood sugar-lowering effects, proper and effective natural treatment of the diabetic patient requires the careful integration of diet, nutritional supplements, and lifestyle, along with herbal medicines. Onions & Garlic (Allium cepa) and garlic (Allium sativum) Onions and garlic have demonstrated blood sugar lowering action. The active principles are believed to be the sulfur-containing compounds allyl propyl disulfide (APDS) and diallyl disulfide oxide (allicin), respectively, although other constituents such as flavonoids may play a role as well. The cardiovascular effects of garlic and onions, that is, cholesterol and blood pressure lowering actions, further substantiate the liberal intake of garlic and onions by the diabetic patient. Bitter Melon Bitter melon (Momordica charantia), also know as balsam pear, is a typical fruit widely cultivated in Asia, Africa, and South America. The unripe fruits are eaten as a vegatable. Bitter melon is a green, cucumber-shaped fruit with gourd like bumps all over it. It looks like an ugly cucumber. In addition to being eaten as a vegetable, unripe bitter melon has been used extensively in folk medicine as a remedy for diabetes. The blood-sugar lowering action of the fresh juice or extract of the unripe fruit has been clearly established in human clinical trials as well as experimental models. Bitter melon is composed of several compounds with confirmed anti-diabetic properties. Charantin, extracted by alcohol, is a hypoglycemic agent composed of mixed steroids that is more potent than the oral hypoglycemic drug tolbutamide. Momordica charantia also contains an insulin-like polypeptide P, which lowers blood sugar levels when injected subcutaneously into type I diabetics. Since it appears to have fewer side effects than insulin, it has been suggested as a replacement for some patients. The oral administration of bitter melon preparations has shown good results in clinical trials in patients with type II diabetes. In one study, glucose tolerance was improved in 73 percent of type II diabetics given 2 ounces of the juice. The pooled area under the glucose tolerance curves of the patients responding to the bitter melon was 187.0 square centimeters---much lower than the baseline level of 243.6 square centimeters. In another study, 15 grams of the aquaeous extract of bitter melon produced a 54 percent decrease in postprandial blood sugar level and a 17 percent reduction in glycosylated hemoglobin in six patients. Unripe bitter melon is available primarily at Asian grocery stores. Health food stores may have bitter melon extracts, but the fresh juice is probably best, as this was what was used in some of the studies. Bitter melon juice is, in my opinion, very difficult to make palatable. As its name implies, it is quite bitter. If you want the medicinal effects, simply plug your nose and take a 2-ounce shot of the juice. The dosage of other forms should approximate this dose. Gymnema Sylvestre Gymnema sylvestre is a plant native to the tropical forests of India, and has long been used as a treatment for diabetes. Recent scientific investigation has upheld its effectiveness in both type I and type II diabetes. Gymnema is probably the most practical herbal recommendation for improving blood sugar control in diabetics. High-quality gymnema extracts are available in health food stores Gymnema Sylvestre appeared on the U.S.market a few years ago. Originally it was hyped as a " sugar blocker " . Manufacturers erroneously claimed that gymnema could block the absorption of sugar in the gastrointestinal tract and allow the sugar to pass on through the intestinal tract unabsorbed. Ridiculous advertisement claims were made, such as " how to cut down on sugar calories without cutting down on sugar. " This was, in my opinion, a blatant distortion of the truth. Gymnema components, such as gymnemic acid, block the sensation of sweetness when applied to the tongue. This has shown some clinical significance. Subjects that had gymnema extracts applied to the tongue consumed fewer calories at a meal compared to subjects not treated with gymnema. It must be stressed that the gymnema extract was applied to the tongues—subjects did now swallow it in capsule or tablet form, as this would not produce the same effect. Gymnema extracts enhance glucose control in diabetic dogs and rabbits. Interestingly, in animals that have had their pancreas removed, gymnema possesses no obvious effects. It can therefore be concluded that gymnema enhances the production of endogenous insulin. The results of animal studies suggest that it accomplishes this through regeneration of the insulin-producing beta cells in the pancreas. Studies in humans seem to support this, both in type I and type II diabetes. An extract of the leaves of Gymnema sylvestre given to twenty-seven patients with type I diabetes on insulin therapy was shown to reduce insulin requirements and fasting blood sugar levels, and to improve blood sugar control. This study confirmed earlier work in animal studies. In type I diabetes, gymnema appears to work by enhancing the action of insulin. Furthermore, there is some evidence that it may possibly regenerate or revitalize the beta cells of the pancreas. Gymnema extract has also shown positive results in type II diabetes. In one study, twenty-two type II diabetics were given gymnema extract along with the oral hypoglycemic drugs. All patients demonstrated improved blood sugar control; twenty-one out of the twenty-two subjects were able to reduce their drug dosage considerably; and five subjects were able to discontinue their medication and maintain blood sugar control with the gymnema extract alone. The dosage for Gymnema sylvestre extract is 400 mgs per day in both type I and type II diabetes. It is interesting to note that gymnema extract is without side effects and exerts it blood sugar-lowering effects only in cases of diabetes. Gymnema extract, when given to healthy volunteers, does not produce any blood sugar lowering or hypoglycemic effects. Fenugreek Fenugreek seeds have demonstrated significant anti-diabetic effects in experimental and clinical studies. The active principle is in the defatted portion of the seed and contains the alkaloid trigonelline, nicotinic acid, and coumarin. Administration of the defatted seed (in daily doses of 1.5-2 grams per kilogram) to both normal and diabetic dogs reduces fasting and after meal blood levels of glucose, glucagon, somatostatin,insulin, total cholesterol, and triglycerides, while increasing high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol levels. Human studies confirm these effects. Defatted fenugreek seed powder given twice daily in a 50-gram dose to insulin dependent diabetics resulted in significant reduction in fasting blood sugar and improved glucose tolerance test results. There was also a 54 percent reduction in 24-hour urinary glucose excretion and significant reductions in low-density lipoprotein (LDL) and very low-density lipoprotein (VLDL) cholesterol and triglyceride values. Innoninsulin diabetics the addition of 15 grams of powdered fenugreek seed soaked in water significantly reduced postprandial glucose levels during the meal tolerance test. These results indicate that fenugreek seeds or defatted fenugreek seed powder should be included in the diet of the diabetic. Salt Bush (Atriplex halimus) Salt bush is a branch woody shrub native to the Mediterranean, North Africa, and southern Europe. Salt bush is especially common around the Jordan valley in inundated saline depressions and oases. Salt bush is the feeding source of the sand rat. Researchers began investigating the possible therapeutic benefits of atriplex in humans when it was noticed that sand rats switched from a diet rich in atriplex to standard rat chow typically developed severe diabetes. Replacing the atriplex to the diet brought about a quick reversal of the condition. Human studies conducted in Israel have yielded good results in patients with type II diabetes. Blood glucose levels and glucose tolerance were improved. Atriplex is rich in fiber, protein, and numerous trace minerals including chromium. The dosage used in the human studies was 3 grams per day. Pterocarpus (Pterocarpus marsupium) Pterocarpus has a long history of use in India as a treatment for diabetes. The flavonoid, (-)-epicatechin, extracted from the bark of this plant, prevents beta cell damage in rats. Further, both epicatechin and a crude alcohol extract of Pterocarpus marsupium actually regenerate functional pancreatic beta cells in diabetic animals. Epicatechin is also found in green tea (Camellia sinensis). As there are no commercial sources of pterocarpus in the United States, green tea may be suitable alternative. At least two cups of green tea should be consumed per day. Bilberry (Vaccinium myrtillus), grape seed (Vitis vinifera), and Ginkgo biloba extracts Bilberry, grape seed, and Ginkgo biloba extracts offer significant benefits to diabetics. The active compounds of these extracts are flavonoids. These flavonoids increase vitamin C levels, decrease the leakiness and breakage of small blood vessels, prevent easy bruising, and exert potent antioxidant effects. These effects are greatly needed in dealing with the microvascular abnormalities of diabetes and preventing diabetic retinopathy. Although all three of these extracts are of significant benefit, bilberry and grape seed extract are probably the best to use in the prevention and treatment of diabetic retinopathy, while gingko biloba extract appears most useful in the prevention and treatment of peripheral vascular and nerve disease due to diabetes. Regardless of the source, PCO extracts can be used to support good health. As a preventive measure and as antioxidant support, a daily dose of 50 mgs of the grape seed extract is suitable. When used for therapeutic purposes, the daily dose should be increased to 150 to 300 mgs. For PCO bound to phosphatidylcholine, the dose for general support is 50 mgs; for therapeutic purposes, 150 mgs.PCO extracts exert no side effect. The standard dose for bilberry should be used on its anthocyanoside content, as calculated by its anthocyanidin percentage. Widely used pharmaceutical preparations in Europe are standardized for anthocyanidin content (typically 25 percent). The following doses should be taken three times daily: Anthocyanosides (calculated as anthocyanidin): 20-40 mgs. Bilberry extract (25 percent anthocyanidin content): 80- 160 mgs Much of the clinical research on Gingko biloba has utilized a standardized extract, containing 24 percent ginkgo heterosides (flavone gylcosides) at a dosage of 40 mgs three times a day. However, some studies have used a slightly higher dosage of 80 mgs three times daily. Clinical research clearly shows that GBE should be taken consistently for at least 12 weeks in order to be effective. Although most people report benefits within 2 to 3 weeks, some may take longer to respond. Gingko biloba leaf extract is extremely safe and side effects are uncommon. In 44 double blind studies involving 9,772 patients taking GBE, the number of side effects reported was extremely small. The most common side effect, gastrointestinal discomfort, occurred in only twenty-one cases. Taken from- " The Healing Power of Herbs " Revised and expanded 2nd version -- Michael T. Murray, N.D. Co-author of " Encyclopedia of Natural Medicine " JoAnn Guest jogu- Friendsforhea- http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/AIM.html theaimcompanies " Health is not a Medical Issue " In Gettingwell , " Keith <keithyeatts@h...> " <keithyeatts@h...> wrote: > I am trying to get off the 3 pills I take daily but so far > Nutritional Supplements have not helped to eliminate these; Any > suggestions? Thanks Keith keithyeatts@h... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 - <keithyeatts Wednesday, December 11, 2002 6:59 AM I am a Type 2 Diabetic > I am trying to get off the 3 pills I take daily but so far > Nutritional Supplements have not helped to eliminate these; Any > suggestions? Thanks Keith keithyeatts > When I was diagnosed a type II diabetic, the docs gave me a diet plan. I looked at it. It was (imho) all wrong. They made distinctions between high glycemic & low glycemic foods. Which is all wrong as they both add glucose to the blood which insulin must deal with. While I do not follow her advice 100%, a really good starting place is " The Schwarzbein Principle " http://www.okit.com/diabetes%20conference/schwarzbeinbio.html http://www.lisaekus.com/books/theschwartzbeinprinciple.htm I also use gourdin from http://www.gourdin.com/medicine.htm After changing my diet (cutting out bread, pasta, grains, flour, sugar, all sauces with sugars (catsup, etc.), all MSG, most salt, all caffeine, and all aspartame -- and sticking with that diet for several months I added taking the gourdin on top of my diabetes meds (glyburide). When my long term blood sugar levels -- glycosylated hemoglobin A1c (HbA1c) -- were under control, I stopped the glyburide completely. Having a can of coconut milk as a snack between supper & bed gets rid of late night food cravings & also helps with morning blood glucose levels. Drinking plenty of water & taking megadoses of vitamin C also helps. I used to take 8 grams of C twice a day. Now I take to bowel tolerance -- which is more than twice that. Needless to say the diet also means no tobacco, no alcohol and no caffeine. Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 I, too, am Type 2 Giabetic and have had wonderful results taking both Coral Calcium and Flax Seed Oil three times daily. My sugar level has been very normal for months now. Verne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 VLeven, When you say you sugar level has been normal for 3 months, you mean you do not have to use any medication to control your sugar. What else do you have to do to keep it normal. I mean do you eat like others or you keep eating only low carb diet, no fat and no sugar still to maintain this good level? Diane ----Original Message Follows---- VLeven53 Gettingwell Gettingwell Re: I am a Type 2 Diabetic Fri, 13 Dec 2002 05:12:20 EST I, too, am Type 2 Giabetic and have had wonderful results taking both Coral Calcium and Flax Seed Oil three times daily. My sugar level has been very normal for months now. Verne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 Morning Verne, >I, too, am Type 2 Diabetic and have had wonderful results taking both Coral >Calcium and Flax Seed Oil three times daily. My sugar level has been very >normal for months now. >Verne How much of each? Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2002 Report Share Posted December 15, 2002 In a message dated 12/12/2002 12:49:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, angelprincessjo writes: > JoAnn Guest > May 07, 2002 10:14 PDT > > Herbal Recommendations > for Diabetes > > Before the advent of insulin, diabetes was treated with plant > medicines. > In 1980 the World Health Organization urged researchers to examine > whether traditional medicines possessed any real medicinal effects. > In the last 10-20 years scientific investigation has, in > fact,confirmed > the efficacy of many of these preparations, some of which are > remarkably effective. This discussion is, of necessity, limited to a > few plants—those that appear most effective are relatively nontoxic, > and have substantial documentation of efficacy. > > The following plants are discussed: onions and garlic, bitter melon, > Gymnema Sylvestre, fenugreek, salt bush, and pterocarpus. > In addition, > three other herbal medicines (bilberry, grape seed, and ginkgo > extracts) are discussed because of their important roles in dealing > with diabetic complications. > Even though the herbs described here possess blood sugar-lowering > effects, proper and effective natural treatment of the diabetic > patient requires the careful integration of diet, nutritional > supplements, > and lifestyle, along with herbal medicines. > > Onions & Garlic (Allium cepa) and garlic (Allium sativum) > > Onions and garlic have demonstrated blood sugar lowering action. The > active principles are believed to be the sulfur-containing compounds > allyl propyl disulfide (APDS) and diallyl disulfide oxide (allicin), > respectively, although other constituents such as flavonoids may > play a role as well. The cardiovascular effects of garlic and onions, > that is, cholesterol and blood pressure lowering actions, further > substantiate the liberal intake of garlic and onions by the diabetic > patient. > > Bitter Melon > > Bitter melon (Momordica charantia), also know as balsam pear, is a > typical fruit widely cultivated in Asia, Africa, and South America. > The unripe fruits are eaten as a vegatable. Bitter melon is a green, > cucumber-shaped fruit with gourd like bumps all over it. It looks > like > an ugly cucumber. In addition to being eaten as a vegetable, unripe > bitter melon has been used extensively in folk medicine as a remedy > for diabetes. The blood-sugar lowering action of the fresh juice or > extract of the unripe fruit has been clearly established in human > clinical trials as well as experimental models. > > Bitter melon is composed of several compounds with confirmed > anti-diabetic properties. Charantin, extracted by alcohol, is a > hypoglycemic agent composed of mixed steroids that is more potent > than the oral hypoglycemic drug tolbutamide. Momordica charantia also > contains an insulin-like polypeptide P, which lowers blood sugar > levels when injected subcutaneously into type I diabetics. Since it > appears > to have fewer side effects than insulin, it has been suggested as a > replacement for some patients. > > The oral administration of bitter melon preparations has shown good > results in clinical trials in patients with type II diabetes. In one > study, glucose tolerance was improved in 73 percent of type II > diabetics given 2 ounces of the juice. The pooled area under the > glucose tolerance curves of the patients responding to the bitter > melon was 187.0 square centimeters---much lower than the baseline > level of 243.6 square centimeters. In another study, 15 grams of the > aquaeous extract of bitter melon produced a 54 percent decrease in > postprandial blood sugar level and a 17 percent reduction in > glycosylated hemoglobin in six patients. > > Unripe bitter melon is available primarily at Asian grocery stores. > Health food stores may have bitter melon extracts, but the fresh > juice > is probably best, as this was what was used in some of the studies. > Bitter melon juice is, in my opinion, very difficult to make > palatable. > As its name implies, it is quite bitter. If you want the medicinal > effects, simply plug your nose and take a 2-ounce shot of the juice. > The dosage of other forms should approximate this dose. > > Gymnema Sylvestre > > Gymnema sylvestre is a plant native to the tropical forests of > India, and has long been used as a treatment for diabetes. Recent > scientific > investigation has upheld its effectiveness in both type I and type > II diabetes. Gymnema is probably the most practical herbal > recommendation > for improving blood sugar control in diabetics. High-quality gymnema > extracts are available in health food stores > > Gymnema Sylvestre appeared on the U.S.market a few years ago. > Originally > it was hyped as a " sugar blocker " . Manufacturers erroneously claimed > that gymnema could block the absorption of sugar in the > gastrointestinal tract and allow the sugar to pass on through the > intestinal tract > unabsorbed. Ridiculous advertisement claims were made, such as " how > to cut down on sugar calories without cutting down on sugar. " This > was, in my opinion, a blatant distortion of the truth. > Gymnema components, such as gymnemic acid, block the sensation of > sweetness when applied to the tongue. This has shown some clinical > significance. Subjects that had gymnema extracts applied to the > tongue consumed fewer calories at a meal compared to subjects not > treated > with gymnema. It must be stressed that the gymnema extract was > applied to > the tongues—subjects did now swallow it in capsule or tablet form, as > this would not produce the same effect. > Gymnema extracts enhance glucose control in diabetic dogs and > rabbits. > Interestingly, in animals that have had their pancreas removed, > gymnema > possesses no obvious effects. It can therefore be concluded that > gymnema enhances the production of endogenous insulin. The results of > animal studies suggest that it accomplishes this through regeneration > of > the insulin-producing beta cells in the pancreas. Studies in humans > seem to support this, both in type I and type II diabetes. > > An extract of the leaves of Gymnema sylvestre given to twenty-seven > patients with type I diabetes on insulin therapy was shown to reduce > insulin requirements and fasting blood sugar levels, and to improve > blood sugar control. > This study confirmed earlier work in animal studies. In type I > diabetes, gymnema appears to work by enhancing the action of insulin. > Furthermore, > there is some evidence that it may possibly regenerate or revitalize > the beta cells of the pancreas. > Gymnema extract has also shown positive results in type II diabetes. > In one study, twenty-two type II diabetics were given gymnema extract > along with the oral hypoglycemic drugs. All patients demonstrated > improved > blood sugar control; twenty-one out of the twenty-two subjects were > able to reduce their drug dosage considerably; and five subjects were > able to discontinue their medication and maintain blood sugar control > with > the gymnema extract alone. > The dosage for Gymnema sylvestre extract is 400 mgs per day in both > type I and type II diabetes. It is interesting to note that gymnema > extract is without side effects and exerts it blood sugar-lowering > effects only in cases of diabetes. > Gymnema extract, when given to healthy > volunteers, does not produce any blood sugar lowering or hypoglycemic > effects. > > Fenugreek > > Fenugreek seeds have demonstrated significant anti-diabetic effects > in > experimental and clinical studies. The active principle is in the > defatted portion of the seed and contains the alkaloid trigonelline, > nicotinic acid, and coumarin. Administration of the defatted seed > (in > daily doses of 1.5-2 grams per kilogram) to both normal and diabetic > dogs reduces fasting and after meal blood levels of glucose, > glucagon, > somatostatin,insulin, total cholesterol, and triglycerides, while > increasing high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol levels. > Human studies confirm these effects. Defatted fenugreek seed powder > given twice daily in a 50-gram dose to insulin dependent diabetics > resulted in significant reduction in fasting blood sugar and > improved > glucose tolerance test results. > There was also a 54 percent reduction in 24-hour urinary glucose > excretion and significant reductions in low-density lipoprotein > (LDL) > and very low-density lipoprotein (VLDL) cholesterol and triglyceride > values. Innoninsulin diabetics the addition of 15 grams of powdered > fenugreek seed soaked in water significantly reduced postprandial > glucose levels during the meal tolerance test. These results > indicate > that fenugreek seeds or defatted fenugreek seed powder should be > included in the diet of the diabetic. > > Salt Bush (Atriplex halimus) > > Salt bush is a branch woody shrub native to the Mediterranean, North > Africa, and southern Europe. Salt bush is especially common around > the > Jordan valley in inundated saline depressions and oases. Salt bush > is the feeding source of the sand rat. Researchers began > investigating > the possible therapeutic benefits of atriplex in humans when it was > noticed > that sand rats switched from a diet rich in atriplex to standard rat > chow typically developed severe diabetes. Replacing the atriplex to > the > diet brought about a quick reversal of the condition. > Human studies conducted in Israel have yielded good results in > patients with type II diabetes. Blood glucose levels and glucose > tolerance > were improved. Atriplex is rich in fiber, protein, and numerous trace > minerals including chromium. The dosage used in the human studies > was 3 grams per day. > > Pterocarpus (Pterocarpus marsupium) > > Pterocarpus has a long history of use in India as a treatment for > diabetes. The flavonoid, (-)-epicatechin, extracted from the bark of > this plant, prevents beta cell damage in rats. Further, both > epicatechin and a crude alcohol extract of Pterocarpus marsupium > actually > regenerate functional pancreatic beta cells in diabetic animals. > Epicatechin is > also found in green tea (Camellia sinensis). As there are no > commercial > sources of pterocarpus in the United States, green tea may be > suitable alternative. At least two cups of green tea should be > consumed per day. > > Bilberry (Vaccinium myrtillus), grape seed (Vitis vinifera), and > Ginkgo biloba extracts > > Bilberry, grape seed, and Ginkgo biloba extracts offer significant > benefits to diabetics. The active compounds of these extracts are > flavonoids. These flavonoids increase vitamin C levels, decrease the > leakiness and breakage of small blood vessels, prevent easy > bruising, and exert potent antioxidant effects. These effects are > greatly needed > in dealing with the microvascular abnormalities of diabetes and > preventing diabetic retinopathy. > > Although all three of these extracts are of significant benefit, > bilberry and grape seed extract are probably the best to use in the > prevention and treatment of diabetic retinopathy, while gingko > biloba > extract appears most useful in the prevention and treatment of > peripheral vascular and nerve disease due to diabetes. > > Regardless of the source, PCO extracts can be used to support good > health. As a preventive measure and as antioxidant support, a daily > dose > of 50 mgs of the grape seed extract is suitable. > When used for therapeutic purposes, the daily dose should be > increased to 150 to 300 mgs. For PCO bound to phosphatidylcholine, > the dose for general support is 50 mgs; for therapeutic purposes, 150 > mgs.PCO extracts exert no side effect. > > > > The standard dose for bilberry should be used on its anthocyanoside > content, as calculated by its anthocyanidin percentage. Widely used > pharmaceutical preparations in Europe are standardized for > anthocyanidin content (typically 25 percent). The following doses > should be taken three times daily: > > Anthocyanosides (calculated as anthocyanidin): 20-40 mgs. > Bilberry extract (25 percent anthocyanidin content): 80- 160 mgs > > Much of the clinical research on Gingko biloba has utilized a > standardized extract, containing 24 percent ginkgo heterosides > (flavone gylcosides) at a dosage of 40 mgs three times a day. > However, some studies have used a slightly higher dosage of 80 mgs > three times daily. > > Clinical research clearly shows that GBE should be taken > consistently > for at least 12 weeks in order to be effective. Although most people > report benefits within 2 to 3 weeks, some may take longer to respond. > Gingko biloba leaf extract is extremely safe and side effects are > uncommon. In 44 double blind studies involving 9,772 patients taking > GBE, the number of side effects reported was extremely small. The > most common side effect, gastrointestinal discomfort, occurred in > only twenty-one cases. > > Taken from- > " The Healing Power of Herbs " > Revised and expanded 2nd version > -- Michael T. Murray, N.D. > Co-author of > " Encyclopedia of Natural Medicine " > DOES ANYONE KNOW OF ANY ONE PRODUCT THAT CONTAINS A MAJORITY OF THESE JPRODUCTS SO I DONT HAVE TO INGEST SO MANY DIFFERENT PRODUCTS. THANKYOU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2002 Report Share Posted December 16, 2002 ---There is a product distributed by *Solaray* which has a good combination of these vitamins/nutrients for Diabetes Type II. It goes by the name of *GlucoReg*. However, if you want the optimal benefit from Bitter Melon (which in my opinion is most helpful of all) I would suggest going to the auryvedic site that Alobar provided (www.gourdin.com). Apparently when it comes to using bitter melon, the fresh fruits from Asian markets and/or auryvedic supplements are by far the best!! the same goes for the fenugreek seeds. From my experience with this, one really has to take several different supplements. I really don't think one can get maximum benefits from just one capsule. So,for full benefit, use the fresh varieties or auryvedic capsules. Also,I am affiliated with a company that markets an effective bilberry, gingko combination. Of course, drugs are far more costly and less effective! Email me for more information if you desire. JoAnn In Gettingwell , teri323@a... wrote: > In a message dated 12/12/2002 12:49:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, > angelprincessjo writes: > > > JoAnn Guest > > May 07, 2002 10:14 PDT > > > > Herbal Recommendations > > for Diabetes > > > > Before the advent of insulin, diabetes was treated with plant > > medicines. > > In 1980 the World Health Organization urged researchers to examine > > whether traditional medicines possessed any real medicinal effects. > > In the last 10-20 years scientific investigation has, in > > fact,confirmed > > the efficacy of many of these preparations, some of which are > > remarkably effective. This discussion is, of necessity, limited to a > > few plants†" those that appear most effective are relatively nontoxic, > > and have substantial documentation of efficacy. > > > > The following plants are discussed: onions and garlic, bitter melon, > > Gymnema Sylvestre, fenugreek, salt bush, and pterocarpus. > > In addition, > > three other herbal medicines (bilberry, grape seed, and ginkgo > > extracts) are discussed because of their important roles in dealing > > with diabetic complications. > > Even though the herbs described here possess blood sugar-lowering > > effects, proper and effective natural treatment of the diabetic > > patient requires the careful integration of diet, nutritional > > supplements, > > and lifestyle, along with herbal medicines. > > > > Onions & Garlic (Allium cepa) and garlic (Allium sativum) > > > > Onions and garlic have demonstrated blood sugar lowering action. The > > active principles are believed to be the sulfur-containing compounds > > allyl propyl disulfide (APDS) and diallyl disulfide oxide (allicin), > > respectively, although other constituents such as flavonoids may > > play a role as well. The cardiovascular effects of garlic and onions, > > that is, cholesterol and blood pressure lowering actions, further > > substantiate the liberal intake of garlic and onions by the diabetic > > patient. > > > > Bitter Melon > > > > Bitter melon (Momordica charantia), also know as balsam pear, is a > > typical fruit widely cultivated in Asia, Africa, and South America. > > The unripe fruits are eaten as a vegatable. Bitter melon is a green, > > cucumber-shaped fruit with gourd like bumps all over it. It looks > > like > > an ugly cucumber. In addition to being eaten as a vegetable, unripe > > bitter melon has been used extensively in folk medicine as a remedy > > for diabetes. The blood-sugar lowering action of the fresh juice or > > extract of the unripe fruit has been clearly established in human > > clinical trials as well as experimental models. > > > > Bitter melon is composed of several compounds with confirmed > > anti-diabetic properties. Charantin, extracted by alcohol, is a > > hypoglycemic agent composed of mixed steroids that is more potent > > than the oral hypoglycemic drug tolbutamide. Momordica charantia also > > contains an insulin-like polypeptide P, which lowers blood sugar > > levels when injected subcutaneously into type I diabetics. Since it > > appears > > to have fewer side effects than insulin, it has been suggested as a > > replacement for some patients. > > > > The oral administration of bitter melon preparations has shown good > > results in clinical trials in patients with type II diabetes. In one > > study, glucose tolerance was improved in 73 percent of type II > > diabetics given 2 ounces of the juice. The pooled area under the > > glucose tolerance curves of the patients responding to the bitter > > melon was 187.0 square centimeters---much lower than the baseline > > level of 243.6 square centimeters. In another study, 15 grams of the > > aquaeous extract of bitter melon produced a 54 percent decrease in > > postprandial blood sugar level and a 17 percent reduction in > > glycosylated hemoglobin in six patients. > > > > Unripe bitter melon is available primarily at Asian grocery stores. > > Health food stores may have bitter melon extracts, but the fresh > > juice > > is probably best, as this was what was used in some of the studies. > > Bitter melon juice is, in my opinion, very difficult to make > > palatable. > DOES ANYONE KNOW OF ANY ONE PRODUCT THAT CONTAINS A MAJORITY OF THESE > JPRODUCTS SO I DONT HAVE TO INGEST SO MANY DIFFERENT PRODUCTS. THANKYOU. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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