Guest guest Posted January 16, 2002 Report Share Posted January 16, 2002 CAM derives from a different > process aimed at the export market, my understanding is that it derives > from materials the Chinese developed to educate biomedical physicians to > TCM. > I have been trying to nail down a complete history of this text because it has played such an important role in the American reception of TCM and more generally of Chinese medicine and many related subjects. Near as I can tell based on what I recognize as incomplete research, the book is based upon an earlier translation (Essentials of Chinese Acupuncutre) of a text that was developed relatively early on (I don't have an original publication date of the Chinese book involved) for use in a class in traditional medicine for students of Western medicine in Chinese medical schools (not schools of traditional medicine). I believe that this was a one-term course that was meant to give young Chinese medical students an introductory overview of the subject of tradtional Chinese medicine. It was selected for use in export markets during the time period when the WHO was first investigating Chinese medicine, acupuncture, etc. and requested a text from their Chinese colleagues. I suspect that it was highly reviewed and that politics played at least as important a role in its final contents and adoption as medical science, either ancient or modern. This underscores the importance of understanding what constitutes peerage. It's long been a curiosity to me as to why this particular texts remains so influential in the processes relating to the training and certification of American students and practitioners. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2002 Report Share Posted January 16, 2002 " Robert L. Felt " wrote: >>>Essentially though, each MSS is given a suitability screening.<<< What's an MSS? -- Al Stone L.Ac. <AlStone http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2002 Report Share Posted January 17, 2002 Ken, Essentials was a revision of an even earlier english language Chinese acupuncture book titled, if I remember correctly, Outline of Acupuncture & Moxibustion. Both Outline and then Essentials were used as the basic textbooks for the 100 day acupuncture trainings set up at the " big three " CM colleges, Beijing, Shanghai, and Nanjing in the late 70s-early 80s. These courses were taught in Chinese and simultaneously translated into English, French, and Japanese depending on the enrollment. These trainings were endorsed and co-sponsored by the WHO. Most of the Europeans in these classes and some of the North Americans were MDs. The Japanese seemed to be split between MDs and acupuncturists. For instance, in my class in '82, I was the only non-MD acupuncturist among the Euro-Americans. I guess what I'm getting at is that this book, in its various incarnations, was meant for crash 100 day acupuncture trainings, as you said, first for Chinese Western medical student and then for foreign doctors. Bob , " dragon90405 " <yulong@m...> wrote: > CAM derives from a different > > process aimed at the export market, my understanding is that it > derives > > from materials the Chinese developed to educate biomedical > physicians to > > TCM. > > > I have been trying to nail down a complete > history of this text because it has played > such an important role in the American > reception of TCM and more generally of > Chinese medicine and many related subjects. > > Near as I can tell based on what I recognize > as incomplete research, the book is based > upon an earlier translation (Essentials of > Chinese Acupuncutre) of a text that was > developed relatively early on (I don't have > an original publication date of the Chinese > book involved) for use in a class in traditional > medicine for students of Western > medicine in Chinese medical schools (not > schools of traditional medicine). I believe > that this was a one-term course that was > meant to give young Chinese medical students > an introductory overview of the subject of > tradtional Chinese medicine. It was selected > for use in export markets during the time > period when the WHO was first investigating > Chinese medicine, acupuncture, etc. and > requested a text from their Chinese colleagues. > > I suspect that it was highly reviewed and > that politics played at least as important > a role in its final contents and adoption > as medical science, either ancient or modern. > This underscores the importance of understanding > what constitutes peerage. > > It's long been a curiosity to me as to > why this particular texts remains so > influential in the processes relating > to the training and certification of > American students and practitioners. > > Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2002 Report Share Posted November 28, 2002 Robert A. Mendelsohn, MD - " I believe my generation of doctors will be remembered for two things: the miracles that turned to mayhem, such as penicillin and cortisone, and for the millions of mutilations which are ceremoniously (and totally unnecessarily) carried out every year in operating rooms. " Dr. Mercola, MD- " We can solve well over 90% of the all chronic diseases with simple, inexpensive natural therapies. Following the eating plan and radically reducing grain and sugar intake while optimizing omega 6:3 fat ratio will likely reduce over 50% of the health problems Americans currently experience. I know this is true because I have successfully treated many thousands of patients from all over the country with these techniques. " Guylaine Lanctot, M.D " The medical establishment works closely with the drug multinationals whose main objective is profits, and whose worst nightmare would be an epidemic of good health. Lots of drugs MUST be sold. In order to achieve this, anything goes: lies, fraud, and kickbacks. Doctors are the principal salespeople of the drug companies. They are rewarded with research grants, gifts, and lavish perks. The principal buyers are the public - from infants to the elderly - who MUST be thoroughly medicated and vaccinated...at any cost! Why do the authorities forbid alternative medicine? Because they are serving the industry, and the industry cannot make money with herbs, vitamins, and homeopathy. They cannot patent natural remedies. That is why they push synthetics. They control medicine, and that is why they are able to tell medical schools what they can and cannot teach. " Journal of the American Medical Association " Doctors Are The Third Leading Cause of Death in the US Causing 250,000 Deaths Every Year " Julian Whitaker M.D - " Class action lawsuits have been filed in Texas, California and New Jersey charging Swiss pharmaceutical giant Novartis, maker of Ritalin, with conspiracy to create the psychiatric disorder known as ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder) in order to fuel the market for their product. " M.L. Tyler M.D - " Drugs do not cure, popular opinion notwithstanding. Cure must come from within; or there is no cure " In 1973, doctors in Israel went on strike and reduced their total daily patient contacts from 65,000 to only 7000. The strike lasted a month and during that time the death rate, according to the Jerusalem Burial Society, dropped fifty per cent. In 1976 in Bogota, Columbia, doctors refused to treat all except emergency cases for a period of fifty-two days, and in that time the death rate fell by thirty-five per cent. In the same year, during a " slow-down " by doctors in Los Angeles, the death rate there dropped eighteen per cent Dr Benjamin Rush MD - " Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize into an underground dictatorship... To restrict the art of healing to one class of men and deny equal privileges to others will constitute the Bastille of medical science. All such laws are un-American and despotic and have no place in a republic... The Constitution of this republic should make special privilege for medical freedom as well as religious freedom. " Benjamin Rush, MD, a signer of the Declaration of Independence and personal physician to George Washington Gettingwell- / Vitamins, Herbs, Aminos, etc. To , e-mail to: Gettingwell- Or, go to our group site: Gettingwell Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Dr. Phil said: (a) one acknowledged expert TCM practitioner; (b) one acknowledged expert scientist with expertise in well-controlled pharmacological research design, and © one acknowledged expert scientist with expertise in well-controlled TCM/Kampo research design. A *highly-respected* off-list respondent said: The Journal of , from the UK, does peer review all articles and is, at least generally speaking, a much better publication than anything we have in the US. (The) only criteria we currently have for not publishing pseudoscience - newage - quasireligious - drek with regard to Chinese medicine is by using the Chinese language and carefully chosen Chinese source materials as our benchmark. I would refer you to anything coming from Bob Damone, Eric Brand, Nigel Wiseman, Andy Ellis, Simon Becker, Mazin Al-Khafaji, Bob Flaws, Craig Mitchell, or Marnae Ergil. Dr. Emmanuel said: The idea of peer review rests with you, not me nor with Dr. . . if peer review was to come in to existence in the near future, that people at the Needham Research Institute and perhaps someone like Nigel Wiseman would have to play a role. Here is what I suggest: The committee suggestions could be combined and enlarged thus: one acknowledged expert TCM practitioner one acknowledged expert scientist, pharmacological research one acknowledged expert scientist, TCM/Kampo research one " like Nigel Wiseman et. al. (i.e. bi-lingual Chinese/English) last two slots filled by persons like the following: someone from Needham Research Institute, a reasonably educated TCM patient, not necessarily a TCM doctor or a chiropractor, MD, nurse-practitioner or osteopath. These six would be the primary peer-review committee. In addition I would keep a bench committee of persons qualified to serve in the absence of one or more of the primary peers. I would moderate the peer-review process along these lines: No Advertising, either on the website or in the journal. If it has advertising it isn't a *professional* journal at all, it is a " trade paper " . It might be a peer-reviewed trade paper, but it is a trade paper. No outside influence, peers would not entertain discussions about submitted articles outside of the review process and authors would not attempt this. When an article was submitted I would post it to the peer committee members unedited. The software would permit them to vote on acceptance as is or propose edits. If edits were proposed I would relay these to the author under my own return address. In other words, I would be the bad guy, the author would not know which peer suggested the edit. After the author makes the edits, or rebuts the need for them, I would relay this to the peer committee. Once a majority of the peers had agreed to publish the article, it would be published on the online journal and the author could claim publication credit. We would have to establish some sort of economic model to recover our costs, pay for hosting, pay George and so on. The Journal of Chinese Medicine charges $55 per year for US subscriptions, and advertises heavily on the web site. I tried to to The Journal of but I can't figure out the process. I eventually will, though. On the other hand, I have to run over to the local school anyway, I could have a look at it in the library :-) Regards, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Hi Pete & All, > The committee suggestions could be combined and enlarged thus: > > one acknowledged expert TCM practitioner > one acknowledged expert scientist, pharmacological research > one acknowledged expert scientist, TCM/Kampo research > one " like Nigel Wiseman et. al. (i.e. bi-lingual Chinese/English) last > two slots filled by persons like the following: someone from Needham > Research Institute, a reasonably educated TCM patient, not necessarily > a TCM doctor or a chiropractor, MD, nurse-practitioner or osteopath. That looks good. As an after-thought, it might be wise to have one expert biostatistician in the Review Committee. Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc, c/o 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Chinese Proverb: " Man who says it can't be done, should not interrupt man doing it " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 wrote: Hi Dr. Phil, Everybody! So a peer-review committee like this? one acknowledged expert TCM practitioner one acknowledged expert scientist, pharmacological research one acknowledged expert scientist, TCM/Kampo research one expert biostatistician one " like Nigel Wiseman et. al. (i.e. bi-lingual Chinese/English) one slot filled by a person like the following: someone from Needham Research Institute; a reasonably educated TCM patient, not necessarily a TCM doctor; or a chiropractor, MD, nurse-practitioner or osteopath. Emmanuel said that the persons on the committee should have published some papers in other peer-reviewed journals. While this would be ideal I am not so sure I want to make this a hard and fast rule because in our field such journals are usually either non-existent in English or are actually trade papers that contain advertising. Everybody, please send nominations to me off list of persons who satisfy the requirements, include contact information if you have it. You may nominate yourself if you fit the requirements and you wish to volunteer. Keep in mind that *I* am going to be the hatchet man. So those serving on the peer-review committee are not going to have to do any ego-chopping or walk out on any political limbs themselves. In addition, since it will be mostly online there will be little or no expense involved. Finally, members of the peer committee will enjoy a free login to the journal. Serving on the peer-committee would be a pleasant, stimulating experience and it will look nice on a resume. In the event that I was instructed by the committee to reject a submitted manuscript I would thank the author for his/her submission and regretfully inform him/her that the committee voted 5 to 2 or whatever to reject the manuscript for such-and-such reason. However, the author would always be invited to revise the piece and resubmit it. I would also encourage the committee to develop/adopt a style guide in advance so the prospective authors would know before they start how to present their work. Regards, Pete > That looks good. > > As an after-thought, it might be wise to have one expert biostatistician in > the Review Committee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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