Thyroid Disease

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I have already obtained so much good information from this group, I was

wondering if any of you had any suggestions about supplements for Graves

Disease. My husband has it. For some reason they can't get his th levels

down enough for radiation or surgery. He has already maxed out on the

medication and I'm afraid it could be doing loads of damage to his liver and

other vital functions. His pulse rate remains high and he's gained lots of

weight because they don't want him doing any form of exercise. We are

puzzled as to what we should be doing. Before all of this, he was extremely

healthy. In the 13 years we've been married, he's never had so much as the

common cold. He was exposed to TB while traveling in China and remained on

medication to prevent onset for 6 months. Well, 18 months after this, his

problems began.

 

Any advice or suggestions will be most appreciated!

 

Thanks

 

Sheila

 

 

 

 

 

> " Alobar " <alobar

>Gettingwell

>

>Re: Re: Herbal Recommendations for Diabetes

>Mon, 18 Nov 2002 12:26:15 -0600

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> " JoAnn Guest " <angelprincessjo

>

>Monday, November 18, 2002 10:47 AM

> Re: Herbal Recommendations for Diabetes

>

>

>---David, How I wish it were available in PDF format. :-) This is an

>excerpt from an article by Michael T. Murray which I typed up for

>another list, although I do I have several others which might be

>useful for you which I could send on also.

>We have had the best results with Bitter melon (either the fruit

>obtained in Asian markets or the Auryvedic supplements which can be

>otbtained online, and Fenugreek seeds. I believe Alobar has a good

>link for this.

>I am aware that Alobar reversed many of his symptoms, (diabetic

>lesions) with use of bitter melon and perhaps a few of the others

>mentioned in the article below.

>Perhaps he will share with you if he's so inclined as I do know hes

>used several of these herbs successfully over a period of months.

> The bitter melon supplements are good, but Auryvedic ones are much

>more effective if you can obtain them.

>Of course one has to cut out all caffeine and refined sugar,

>replacing them with Stevia, Agave and barleygrain coffee substitutes

>such as Roma by worthington foods.

>

>Best Regards,

>JoAnn Guest

>mrsjoguest

>Friendsforhealthnaturally

>DietaryTipsForHBP

>http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/AIM.html

>

> From what I read, bitter melon works best taken

>super-lingually, that is allowed to sit in the mouth for a minute or

>two & allowed to dissolve into the top of the tongue. When

>swallowed, most of its properties are destroyed (I am told) by the

>stomach acid & digestive enzymes. I use tablets called Gourdin four

>times a day. I have not done any long-term testing both with &

>without Gourdin to check exactly how efficacious it is because I do

>not want to subject my body to high sugar by going off the gourdin

>for a month or two.

>

> When I was first diagnosed with diabetes, my fasting blood

>glucose level was 360. I immediately went on glyburide. It

>normalized my blood glucose levels down to 90-110, but the side

>effects made me feel terrible all the time. I knew it was just not

>good for me. After a week-long severe depression, my ex-wife and an

>on-line friend assisted me in doing web research & getting me out of

>my funk by showing me that I could regain control by making myself

>useful doing research. The first thing I discovered is that the ADA

>diet which my doc recommended was all wrong. I worked on my diet

>while I continued with the glyburide. I discovered gourdin & began

>taking that in addition to the glyburide.

>

> With the glyburide, I discovered I could cheat on my diet &

>still have my blood glucose level be ok. This scared me. I knew if

>I did not have immediate feedback on what foods were really bad for

>me that it would be oh-so-easy to slip into a really destructive

>dietary lifestyle. So I went off the glyburide as soon as the

>physical therapists had helped me get my foot wound healed (after 4

>months of their carving on my foot & me taking glyburide).

>

> I have been using dietary control plus gourdin plus lots of

>vitamins & other supplements for a little over a year now. My doc

>told me that if I could maintain a fasting blood glucose of 127, I

>could (in her opinion) stay off the diabetic meds. I have been

>experimenting with supplements & have discovered many things which

>spike my fasting glucose levels -- niacin, beta carotene at night

>(if I take beta carotene in the morning, that is ok), eating a large

>meal late at night, not drinking at least a gallon of water a day.

>And I have found things which I had thought would spike my blood

>glucose levels, but which do not. I eat a lot of fruit (7 portions)

>most every day. I can eat 2 portions of tomatoes once a day for

>several says in a row. With gourdin, I have immediate feedback on

>what helps & what hurts my blood glucose levels which I did not have

>with glyburide.

>

> I also use Shilajit, which is another Aryuvedic preparation.

>I am not real sure how (or even if) Shilajit works, but it does no

>harm I can detect & is not expensive, so I continue taking it.

>

> I also use a large amount of cinnamon (one small stick) and a

>large hunk of fresh ginger (about the size of my two thumbs) most

>every day. I started taking cinnamon & ginger to aid in circulation

>to my hands & feet (which is dangerously poor in diabetics) and to

>assist with peripheral nerve damage (diabetic neuropathy). I have

>not noted any increase in feeling in my feet, but feeling has not

>gotten worse either. Neuropathy is supposed to get progressively

>worse over time, so maybe the ginger & cinnamon are doing good.

>One thing I have noticed is the almost total remission of arthritic

>pains in my hands. For the past decade, it was very painful to put

>on a kitchen mitt or button my shirt. Now there is minor discomfort

>in these activities, but no pain. The improvement happened gradually

>over a month or two so I did not notice it at first.

>

>

> I do have some serious questions (but no answers) about all

>the herbs for diabetics. It seems from what I have read that all

>these herbs & preparations act to stimulate the pancreas into

>producing more & more insulin. From what I have read, insulin is not

>real good for anyone if the quantities are too high. The docs

>never have one's blood tested for insulin levels, just glucose. So

>repeated daily stimulation of the pancreas to make more & more

>insulin seems to me like it would be quite harmful long-term.

>Perhaps not as immediately harmful as high blood glucose levels, but

>both high glucose & high insulin levels eventually lead to death, if

>I am not mistaken.

>

> Early on in my readings about diabetes, I came upon the

>statement (sorry, no footnote here) that almost all diabetics

>eventually die from " diabetic complications " . Further reading got

>me thinking that almost all of the " diabetic complications " they

>mentioned were a mix of complications from high blood glucose and

>complications from high insulin levels. So ideally, I figure I need

>a lifestyle which keeps both my blood glucose levels low and also

>keeps my blood insulin levels low.

>

> Which got me thinking. Are there any herbs or food

>supplements which decrease cell insulin sensitivity to allow a

>diabetic to control blood sugar levels without boosting his or her

>blood insulin levels?

>

> I do not have the money to get my blood insulin tested right

>now, but intend to do so if/when my financial situation improves. I

>would very much like to find supplements which decrease my body's

>need for insulin while still keeping my blood glucose levels in

>check.

>

>Alobar

>

>

 

 

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