take 30 or more *grams* of vitamin C a

[Guest guest]

Now we are getting somewhere,

 

Note Alobar is taking 30,000 miligrams.

 

Some people may need it buffered with soda or calcium,

 

www.bronsononline.com sells several different buffered C's for under $20 a

lb.

 

 

> 1,000 mg of Vitamin C is nothing. When I have a cold, I

routinely take 30 or more *grams* of vitamin C a day.

 

Alobar>

 

 

 

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Ok, help me with this.....how do you take that much C without having stomach

upset? Forget the diarrhea, when I take more than about 5 grams, I get what

feels like acid stomach. And that is from a buffered C product.

 

Ken

Lorenzo [lorenzo1]

Friday, November 01, 2002 3:41 PM

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take 30 or more *grams* of vitamin C a

 

 

Now we are getting somewhere,

 

Note Alobar is taking 30,000 miligrams.

 

Some people may need it buffered with soda or calcium,

 

www.bronsononline.com sells several different buffered C's for under $20

a

lb.

 

 

> 1,000 mg of Vitamin C is nothing. When I have a cold, I

routinely take 30 or more *grams* of vitamin C a day.

 

Alobar>

 

 

 

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Saturday, November 02, 2002 8:12 AM

RE: take 30 or more *grams* of vitamin C a

 

 

> Ok, help me with this.....how do you take that much C without

having stomach

> upset? Forget the diarrhea, when I take more than about 5 grams, I

get what

> feels like acid stomach. And that is from a buffered C product.

>

> Ken

 

I take my vitamin C two ways each day. I eat four meals a

day. The heaviest meal is breakfast. I slurp a large (2 quart)

smoothie while reading my morning e-mail over a 2 hour period. I

take about 1/2 my vitamin C dose with my breakfast smoothie -- half

in tablet form & half as vitamin C crystals in the smoothie slowly

over 2 hours. I take the rest of the vitamin C with the other 3

(smaller) meals. Vitamin C tablets on an empty stomach I can take 3

or 4 1,000 mg tablets, but no more. With a meal, I find no such

problem.

 

If one is taking smaller doses throughout the day (which is

more ideal than what I do), one would probably not get upset stomach

even when not with a meal. You say 5 grams is your limit. If you

took 2 grams an hour over a 16 hour period, that would be 32 grams a

day. Unless one was ill or very worn down, most people seem to get

by on about a gram an hour (sometimes less). So no where near the 5

grams at a time which irritates your stomach.

 

Alobar

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Dear Ken,

 

A number of factors are involved I think.Here are a few.

 

Is the 5 grams taken all at once or in a somewaht short amount of

time? Usually when people talk of taking 8 or 10 grams and up they

are talking about in a 24 hour period.

 

The body was designed to take in and utilize vitamins over time not

all at once where the bulk of any vitamin will probably will not be

utilized.

 

A persons ability to take in and absorb vitamin C differs when one is

healthy or when one is sick.

 

Sometimes a sick person can take in huge quantities compared to

someone who is well and has somewhat sufficient vitamin C in their

system.

 

When my children were young, although I didn't know much about

nutrition and had only read the vitamin C and common cold book,

they used to eat the 500mg orange flavored chewable C's like crazy

when they had a cold.

 

I didn't keep track as I knew that it was non toxic, but I would

guess that they would eat 10 to 20 grams in a day, when their normal

capacity probably would have been around 3 - 4 grams a day.

I knew nothing about vitamin C or nutrition then.

To bad that I wasn't aware enough to give them good nutrition and

lots of C all of the time.

 

In fact some people use vitamin C intake with high bowel tolerance to

indicate a possible problem in the body. They reason that if a person

can take huge amounts of C over a prolonged period that the person

could have something wrong in the body to have such a high need to

combat a possible major illness. They see it as an indicator to start

looking.

 

It is really the bodies ability to absorb that is in question here

not the bodies ability to take such large amounts. What doesn't get

absorbed is passed onto the gut and the sensers there recognize an

acid substance, not exactly knowing if it is good or bad, and so acts

to flush it out. In an IV this is no problem, and the body can take

in very huge quantities.

 

The dose involved is determinate on a number of facors. The bodies

ability to absorb how much in what period of time and what need is

present.

 

Most animals, but not all, can produce their own Vitamin C in their

own bodies from sugar molecules. So as their neeed increases because

of illness they can respond by making more and eating more foods that

are rich in C too.

 

We are limited by not producing our own C but we now have the ability

to make vitamin C in a lab or factory easily and have it at our

disposal as we want.

 

Severe illness rsponds well to large amounts such a heart disease or

cancer and others. Some cancer patients take in up to 300,000 grams

(yes, that is GRAMS we are talking here) of vitamin C IV with no

problems. That is something that no animal can never match in

manufacuring capacity.

 

There are several good links on our links page that deal with vitamin

C.

 

PS. I forgot to mention buffering but you can research C in our

links. Also if vitamin C goes past the mouth without stimulating

digestive juices there and mixing with it, it is a harder job to

absorb it (as with all foods and vitamins). So when taking a pill it

bypasses this step completely.

 

You probably know most of what I have written, but I thought it might

help some other in the group. Vitamin C is quite different substance

than most of the other vitamins.

Good luck,

Frank

 

 

Gettingwell, " Ken Woody " <kenwoody@a...> wrote:

> Ok, help me with this.....how do you take that much C without

having stomach

> upset? Forget the diarrhea, when I take more than about 5 grams, I

get what

> feels like acid stomach. And that is from a buffered C product.

>

> Ken

>

> Lorenzo [lorenzo1@w...]

> Friday, November 01, 2002 3:41 PM

> Gettingwell

> take 30 or more *grams* of vitamin C a

>

>

> Now we are getting somewhere,

>

> Note Alobar is taking 30,000 miligrams.

>

> Some people may need it buffered with soda or calcium,

>

> www.bronsononline.com sells several different buffered C's for

under $20

> a

> lb.

>

>

> > 1,000 mg of Vitamin C is nothing. When I have a cold, I

> routinely take 30 or more *grams* of vitamin C a day.

>

> Alobar>

>

>

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Dear Group,

 

I forgot to mention some of the best about vitamin C. It our natural

weapon against bacteria and viruses as well as many many other needs

in our body.

 

It will kill most bacteria and viruses. It is just a matter of

getting enough into the body.

 

A doctor by the name of Fred Klenner MD was curing polio with vitamin

C in 1948, but it wasn't acceptable with the drug crowd at the AMA.

 

I'm sorry to put so many messages on the board in such a short time

but I just feel that it needs to be out there, if you know what I

mean.

 

Please don't let me going a little overboard deter anyone else from

posting. In fact, I wish that some of these very, very knowledgeable

vitamin people would post more.

 

respectfuly,

 

Frank

 

 

Gettingwell, " califpacific " <califpacific> wrote:

> Dear Ken,

>

> A number of factors are involved I think.Here are a few.

>

> Is the 5 grams taken all at once or in a somewaht short amount of

> time? Usually when people talk of taking 8 or 10 grams and up they

> are talking about in a 24 hour period.

>

> The body was designed to take in and utilize vitamins over time not

> all at once where the bulk of any vitamin will probably will not be

> utilized.

>

> A persons ability to take in and absorb vitamin C differs when one

is

> healthy or when one is sick.

>

> Sometimes a sick person can take in huge quantities compared to

> someone who is well and has somewhat sufficient vitamin C in their

> system.

>

> When my children were young, although I didn't know much about

> nutrition and had only read the vitamin C and common cold book,

> they used to eat the 500mg orange flavored chewable C's like crazy

> when they had a cold.

>

> I didn't keep track as I knew that it was non toxic, but I would

> guess that they would eat 10 to 20 grams in a day, when their

normal

> capacity probably would have been around 3 - 4 grams a day.

> I knew nothing about vitamin C or nutrition then.

> To bad that I wasn't aware enough to give them good nutrition and

> lots of C all of the time.

>

> In fact some people use vitamin C intake with high bowel tolerance

to

> indicate a possible problem in the body. They reason that if a

person

> can take huge amounts of C over a prolonged period that the person

> could have something wrong in the body to have such a high need to

> combat a possible major illness. They see it as an indicator to

start

> looking.

>

> It is really the bodies ability to absorb that is in question here

> not the bodies ability to take such large amounts. What doesn't get

> absorbed is passed onto the gut and the sensers there recognize an

> acid substance, not exactly knowing if it is good or bad, and so

acts

> to flush it out. In an IV this is no problem, and the body can take

> in very huge quantities.

>

> The dose involved is determinate on a number of facors. The bodies

> ability to absorb how much in what period of time and what need is

> present.

>

> Most animals, but not all, can produce their own Vitamin C in their

> own bodies from sugar molecules. So as their neeed increases

because

> of illness they can respond by making more and eating more foods

that

> are rich in C too.

>

> We are limited by not producing our own C but we now have the

ability

> to make vitamin C in a lab or factory easily and have it at our

> disposal as we want.

>

> Severe illness rsponds well to large amounts such a heart disease

or

> cancer and others. Some cancer patients take in up to 300,000 grams

> (yes, that is GRAMS we are talking here) of vitamin C IV with no

> problems. That is something that no animal can never match in

> manufacuring capacity.

>

> There are several good links on our links page that deal with

vitamin

> C.

>

> PS. I forgot to mention buffering but you can research C in our

> links. Also if vitamin C goes past the mouth without stimulating

> digestive juices there and mixing with it, it is a harder job to

> absorb it (as with all foods and vitamins). So when taking a pill

it

> bypasses this step completely.

>

> You probably know most of what I have written, but I thought it

might

> help some other in the group. Vitamin C is quite different

substance

> than most of the other vitamins.

> Good luck,

> Frank

>

>

> Gettingwell, " Ken Woody " <kenwoody@a...> wrote:

> > Ok, help me with this.....how do you take that much C without

> having stomach

> > upset? Forget the diarrhea, when I take more than about 5 grams,

I

> get what

> > feels like acid stomach. And that is from a buffered C product.

> >

> > Ken

> >

> > Lorenzo [lorenzo1@w...]

> > Friday, November 01, 2002 3:41 PM

> > Gettingwell

> > take 30 or more *grams* of vitamin C a

> >

> >

> > Now we are getting somewhere,

> >

> > Note Alobar is taking 30,000 miligrams.

> >

> > Some people may need it buffered with soda or calcium,

> >

> > www.bronsononline.com sells several different buffered C's for

> under $20

> > a

> > lb.

> >

> >

> > > 1,000 mg of Vitamin C is nothing. When I have a cold,

I

> > routinely take 30 or more *grams* of vitamin C a day.

> >

> > Alobar>

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Group,

 

Upon rereading this message, I made a huge error when I wrote this.

 

I was trying to show the safety and health benefits in taking vitamin

C, so in using examples I wasn't thinking specifically about the

large doses but trying to get a lot of small tidbits of information

in many areas of C, to lead people to use the links and read a lot

more about the uses of this vitamin.

 

Well anyway I got carried away with enthuiasm. I meant to say that

cancer patients use up to 300,000 units a day, thats 300 grams a day

I.V., then I compounded it by stating again grams without think

really about that size dose.

 

After rereading it, I saw my error and felt bad. So, sorry for

posting an error without rereading it before posting it.

 

I had been reading about all of the lives having been lost, due to

vitamins having been given a bad name for treatment and all of the

damage done in the name of health done by so many medicines, that I

just felt like posting a lot in trying to shake up a little corner of

the world if nowhere else.

 

It was also bothering me that Dorothy (member) has become so severly

ill with cancer and I felt that she had never had the benefit of this

information fully.

 

Anyway, I hope that you guys really read these messages a litle more

closely or at least don't be so polite and hold back any correction

of my or anyone elses mistakes. It is very important that the members

receive accurate information. If the information is accurate, then it

will have credibility, and we all will benefit.

Frank

 

 

Gettingwell, " califpacific " <califpacific> wrote:

> Dear Ken,

>

> A number of factors are involved I think.Here are a few.

>

> Is the 5 grams taken all at once or in a somewaht short amount of

> time? Usually when people talk of taking 8 or 10 grams and up they

> are talking about in a 24 hour period.

>

> The body was designed to take in and utilize vitamins over time not

> all at once where the bulk of any vitamin will probably will not be

> utilized.

>

> A persons ability to take in and absorb vitamin C differs when one

is

> healthy or when one is sick.

>

> Sometimes a sick person can take in huge quantities compared to

> someone who is well and has somewhat sufficient vitamin C in their

> system.

>

> When my children were young, although I didn't know much about

> nutrition and had only read the vitamin C and common cold book,

> they used to eat the 500mg orange flavored chewable C's like crazy

> when they had a cold.

>

> I didn't keep track as I knew that it was non toxic, but I would

> guess that they would eat 10 to 20 grams in a day, when their

normal

> capacity probably would have been around 3 - 4 grams a day.

> I knew nothing about vitamin C or nutrition then.

> To bad that I wasn't aware enough to give them good nutrition and

> lots of C all of the time.

>

> In fact some people use vitamin C intake with high bowel tolerance

to

> indicate a possible problem in the body. They reason that if a

person

> can take huge amounts of C over a prolonged period that the person

> could have something wrong in the body to have such a high need to

> combat a possible major illness. They see it as an indicator to

start

> looking.

>

> It is really the bodies ability to absorb that is in question here

> not the bodies ability to take such large amounts. What doesn't get

> absorbed is passed onto the gut and the sensers there recognize an

> acid substance, not exactly knowing if it is good or bad, and so

acts

> to flush it out. In an IV this is no problem, and the body can take

> in very huge quantities.

>

> The dose involved is determinate on a number of facors. The bodies

> ability to absorb how much in what period of time and what need is

> present.

>

> Most animals, but not all, can produce their own Vitamin C in their

> own bodies from sugar molecules. So as their neeed increases

because

> of illness they can respond by making more and eating more foods

that

> are rich in C too.

>

> We are limited by not producing our own C but we now have the

ability

> to make vitamin C in a lab or factory easily and have it at our

> disposal as we want.

>

> Severe illness rsponds well to large amounts such a heart disease

or

> cancer and others. Some cancer patients take in up to 300,000 grams

> (yes, that is GRAMS we are talking here) of vitamin C IV with no

> problems. That is something that no animal can never match in

> manufacuring capacity.

>

> There are several good links on our links page that deal with

vitamin

> C.

>

> PS. I forgot to mention buffering but you can research C in our

> links. Also if vitamin C goes past the mouth without stimulating

> digestive juices there and mixing with it, it is a harder job to

> absorb it (as with all foods and vitamins). So when taking a pill

it

> bypasses this step completely.

>

> You probably know most of what I have written, but I thought it

might

> help some other in the group. Vitamin C is quite different

substance

> than most of the other vitamins.

> Good luck,

> Frank

>

>

> Gettingwell, " Ken Woody " <kenwoody@a...> wrote:

> > Ok, help me with this.....how do you take that much C without

> having stomach

> > upset? Forget the diarrhea, when I take more than about 5 grams,

I

> get what

> > feels like acid stomach. And that is from a buffered C product.

> >

> > Ken

> >

> > Lorenzo [lorenzo1@w...]

> > Friday, November 01, 2002 3:41 PM

> > Gettingwell

> > take 30 or more *grams* of vitamin C a

> >

> >

> > Now we are getting somewhere,

> >

> > Note Alobar is taking 30,000 miligrams.

> >

> > Some people may need it buffered with soda or calcium,

> >

> > www.bronsononline.com sells several different buffered C's for

> under $20

> > a

> > lb.

> >

> >

> > > 1,000 mg of Vitamin C is nothing. When I have a cold,

I

> > routinely take 30 or more *grams* of vitamin C a day.

> >

> > Alobar>

> >

> >

> >

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