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Christi, try www.NAET.com

 

In a message dated 8/25/2002 7:36:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

aquakat_01 writes:

 

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Bob,

You mentioned accupuncuture. Is that preferred over acupressure? Also, how

do I find someone who is 'qualified?' Also, how do I find an excellent

herbalist? I have a ton of allergies. (Not sure if I mentioned that I have

very low estrogen too and can't tolerate progesterone). Does acupuncture help

with panic attacks?

 

Thanks, I am really lost and struggling to save my life, so it seems.

Conventional medicine is not helping plus I can't tolerate a lot of meds.

kristee

 

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Hvae you tried Kava Kava or St John's Wort to calm you or Bachs Rescue Remedy

for when you have an attack. Only take Kava Kava or St J W if you are NOT

taking meds for depression

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Marianne

 

 

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Gettingwell, marianne2406@a... wrote:

> Hvae you tried Kava Kava or St John's Wort to calm you or Bachs

Rescue Remedy

> for when you have an attack. Only take Kava Kava or St J W if you

are NOT

> taking meds for depression

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> Marianne

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Finding out what the cause is for the panic attacks is essential. It

is an unresolved fear. Acupuncture or acupressure or taking Kava

Kava or St. John's Wort is EXACTLY the same thing as practicing

allopathic medicine - symptom control and that is about turning the

focus on the big red flat that something is amiss.

 

Hope

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It sounds like you already know how to treat yourself. Why try to look

for an answer from others and bashing them?

 

I agree with others, by the way you sound that you defiantly might have

some issues that have to be dealt with on a mind scale, and maybe you

should see a clearing specialist. It sounds as if you have not tried

that route.

 

My suggestion is to pursue clearing technology, this will help your

mental state a great deal, and maybe then will things start to show

results for you.

 

Try http://www.trans4mind.com to start.

 

 

Michael A. Walker N.D.

 

The medicine of the future will no longer be remedial, it will be

preventive; not based on drugs but on the best diet for health.

 

 

 

 

 

holistichell [holistichell]

Saturday, September 07, 2002 8:36 PM

Gettingwell

Re: accupressure/acupuncture/finding the right ND

or practition...

 

 

Gettingwell, marianne2406@a... wrote:

> Hvae you tried Kava Kava or St John's Wort to calm you or Bachs

Rescue Remedy

> for when you have an attack. Only take Kava Kava or St J W if you

are NOT

> taking meds for depression

> .

>

> Marianne

>

>

> > Does acupuncture help with panic attacks?

 

Finding out what the cause is for the panic attacks is essential. It

is an unresolved fear. Acupuncture or acupressure or taking Kava

Kava or St. John's Wort is EXACTLY the same thing as practicing

allopathic medicine - symptom control and that is about turning the

focus on the big red flat that something is amiss.

 

Hope

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I would recommend educating yourself as much as possible. There are a number

of great books and websites out there. One I found real value in was

Breaking the Grip of Dangerou Emotions by Janet Maccaro. Try also looking up

the website of Billie J Sahler. She is a psychiatrist in Texas who has some

great stuff on her site.

 

For me the key seems to be in finding ways to reduce cortisol and boost

serotonin. There are some good supplements to help. GABA is excellent for

filling those open GABA receptors in the brain and closely mimics or exceeds

the work of SSRI drugs. I also find that Phosphotidinyl Serine is a

tremendous help. Relora, a new supplement, does a wonderful job of reducing

Cortisol and helping suppress the symptoms. Finally, Tryptophan will

replenish serotonin depleted by a high stress life. These are all treating a

symptom but can also help alleviate the problem particularly in the case of

GABA and Tryptophan, both of these are replenishing a necessary component

that is low.

 

Having said that, you need to determine what is causing the anxiety. Common

suspects are high or chronic stress, but can also be low protein as already

stated. This still usually links back to stress. Stress really impacts the

body in a lot of ways - it demands more protein, depletes serotonin and

GABA, shoots up cortisol which is really harmful, and weakens the adrenals.

 

You may need to work on the adrenals, too. A good book for that is Tired of

Being Tired by Hanley.

 

Anyway, that should give you a good start. Hope this helps.

holistichell [holistichell]

Saturday, September 07, 2002 8:36 PM

Gettingwell

Re: accupressure/acupuncture/finding the right ND

or practition...

 

 

Gettingwell, marianne2406@a... wrote:

> Hvae you tried Kava Kava or St John's Wort to calm you or Bachs

Rescue Remedy

> for when you have an attack. Only take Kava Kava or St J W if you

are NOT

> taking meds for depression

> .

>

> Marianne

>

>

> > Does acupuncture help with panic attacks?

 

Finding out what the cause is for the panic attacks is essential. It

is an unresolved fear. Acupuncture or acupressure or taking Kava

Kava or St. John's Wort is EXACTLY the same thing as practicing

allopathic medicine - symptom control and that is about turning the

focus on the big red flat that something is amiss.

 

Hope

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Gettingwell, " Michael Walker " <vdospec@v...> wrote:

> It sounds like you already know how to treat yourself. Why try to

look

> for an answer from others and bashing them?

>

I was not bashing anyone, just offering advice on really getting to

the root of panic attacks, if that is what they are. Using

supplements like 5-HTP or other neurochemical supports can throw the

whole network out of whack and create imbalances or worsen existing

ones. That information is from another ND, as well as from the

manufacturer's representative of Solgar.

 

Hope

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---Hope,

Supplements such as 5-HTP tryptophan (5-hydroxy L-tryptophan)

have been used for a multitude of ills...everything from the common

headache, migraines,insomnia, addictions, weight control and pure

anxiety.

Apparently it is one of the newer supplements.

Although it has been subject to double-blind randomized placebo-

controlled studies, the results are unclear.

The aim of the studies was to verify whether 5 HTP might be an

effective prophylactic treatment for chronic tension headaches

without the reactions associated with the analgesic drugs.

In my opinion, it may be the lesser of the two evils. Although the

results provide evidence that 5 HTP(5-hydroxy L-tryptophan) may be a

moderately effectie medication for the treatment of chronic tension-

type headaches without the sedation of tryclyclic antidepressants,

apparently more research needs to be done as this is one of the

newer supplements which has not been tried and tested for it's

efficacy and known side effects over any extended period of time.

 

After the tryptophan incident in Japan earlier involving

genetically engineered supplements by Denko, I absolutely try to

avoid anything bearing the label *tryptophan*. Rather I suggest

trying to derive it from various foods with the nutrients.

 

Genetically engineered supplements could very well be the wave of

the future according to various sources and as you say, there are

many vitamin suppliers that routinely get their supplements from

pharmaceuticals.

GNC is owned and operated by Rexall, a drug company and many of it's

brand-name products are laced with gmos. We must be vigilant and

prone to do our own research rather than rely entirely on any health

practitioner, even though they call themselves *natural*.

 

I have a close internet friend whose experiences were very similar

to yours. Her Endo pain intensified after being placed on some

Chinese healing remedies which she afterwards discovered were meant

only for MEN! It is wise to get a second opinion, regardless, if the

practitioner is allopathic or *natural*. The risk is there!

 

 

Just a reminder...

 

L-trypthophan. A major new growth industry for the Gene Giants is

expected to be nutraceuticals, GE-enhanced foods and nutritional

supplements.

 

As with their Frankenfoods, the biotech companies tell us

these products are completely safe.

 

Unfortunately the first GE

nutraceutical to hit the market,

 

 

L-tryptophan, killed at least 37

Americans and injured thousands of others in 1998-89.

 

After hundreds

of thousands of people had taken non-GE L-tryptophan for decades with

no ill effects,

a Japanese drug company decided they could make more

money by genetically engineering the popular over the counter

supplement.

 

Apparently the more GE bacteria the company, Showa Denko,

used in the manufacturing process, the more toxic the L-tryptophan

became.

 

http://www.netlink.de/gen/druker1.html

 

JoAnn Guest

angelprincessjo

Friendsforhealthnaturally

http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/AIM.html

 

 

In Gettingwell, " holistichell " <holistichell> wrote:

> Gettingwell, " Michael Walker " <vdospec@v...> wrote:

> > It sounds like you already know how to treat yourself. Why try

to

> look

> > for an answer from others and bashing them?

> >

> I was not bashing anyone, just offering advice on really getting

to

> the root of panic attacks, if that is what they are. Using

> supplements like 5-HTP or other neurochemical supports can throw

the

> whole network out of whack and create imbalances or worsen

existing

> ones. That information is from another ND, as well as from the

> manufacturer's representative of Solgar.

>

> Hope

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