Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 Evening Linda, >but I can't seem to sort it out in my mind, and the more I >learn, the more confused I become. Join the club ! We are all in the same situation to some degree. Until we get it all figured out, we have to eat something so maybe we will live long enough to rationalize the information we have amassed. or not. (You would die if your blood became acidic. Even a pH of 7, which is >neutral, would kill you.) So what really causes disease? You seem to know a lot about this and have much information. Possibly too much. You are making it so complex that few will be able to make the changes and believe in them. Your statement above it the key to the whole thing. The body is not going to allow some of these things to happen. It will continue to use up all its alkalizing ability and reserves until the proper pH cannot be accomplished, and then we will die, as you stated. So.... the goal is to eat a number of alkalizing foods each day to continuously replenish the reserves. I though I mentioned this in my article. >An alkaline colon >is what a lot of people say starts the process of disease. What exactly does >the term acidic body mean in terms of the different parts of the body? We have to realize that when a human body already has severe problems maintaining proper body chemistry such as diabetics, people who have thyroid problems, glands not functioning properly, and others who are not supplying adequate essential fatty acids, and otherwise eating an unbalanced diet, certainly can't expect to maintain the proper body alkalinity. They are doomed to be sick and get worse each day. Many, if not most of the health and nutrient guidelines by experts ( if any exist ) are directed to humans who still have a body chemistry that is functional. >>The pH of the inside of the cells is not the same as the pH of the blood. The cell wall membranes and blood electrolytes, play the major role in this, plus a body communication system that is working at 100%. You don't hear a lot about the communication system. The Gut sends many times more messages to the brain than the brain sends to the gut. I hope to learn more about this in the future. >thrives on lactose from milk, which is supposed to be a neutral food. Yet >Klebsiella is a pathogen, and contributes to the formation of disease, >rather than preventing disease, in spite of it's alkalinizing effects. That is an awesome situation. Here I think you are talking about an overgrowth or a gross imbalance of bacteria. Recently, I have read several articles about this. One related to soil borne bacteria and the fact that when we eat carrots and any root crop foods we ingest soil borne bacteria. Many of these are beneficial. Also, children who eat dirt are usually healthier than the ones who do not. One of my daughters was always eating dirt when a child. Now at age 40, she is likely the healthiest one in the family. Theoretically, she could still be benefiting from eating the dirt as a child. If one has an imbalance of bacteria, this should be considered a serious situation and should be addressed and corrected before they are concerned with acid / alkaline balancing. increasing the acidity of the blood. So are you acidifying the blood or >alkalinizing the blood when you increase stomach acid with betaine >hydrochloride supplements? Are you sparing the body's reserves of >bicarbonate by decreasing the acidity of the stomach by using antacids? You have summed up all the problems very well. Remember the old proverb that says, " The problem clearly stated is half solved " . Of course no one seems to have the " itched in stone " solution. I do think it is a bit simpler that you make it appear. Only a committee of biochemist could answer all the questions we have about this extremely complex subject. Until they do, and write a 1000 page book, what shall we do? I think our only option is to eat a number of alkalizing foods each day. Six to Eight servings minimum. >What's the difference between the alkalinizing effects of bicarbonate >produced by the body and baking soda? And why are meats acidifying, when the >breakdown of nitrogen based proteins produces ammonia in one of the >intermediary steps of the urea cycle? I don't have the chemistry knowledge to tackle that one. >I get conflicting information from different sources, such as the advice in >the book " Acidophilus and Colon Health " which recommends a high grain diet. >(As much as 70-80% of the diet as high carbohydrate foods, and recommending >a good proportion of that be from grains) versus the recommendation that >diets to prevent hypoglycemia only consist of 40% or less of carbohydrates.) I have a word of caution for you and everyone. Many of the people writing books have been subjected to train car loads of mis-information for their complete lifetime. Even though they may have spent tens of thousands of hours researching any given subject, their mind has been so warped that the resulting information is worthless, and possibly even so wrong we would be better off with ZERO knowledge. >How does an alkalinizing diet affect a person with hypoglycemia who reacts >to the sugar in, say, figs, or raisins, which are highly alkalinizing? If a >person is already struggling with disease, correcting the acid/alkaline >balance becomes daunting. I was eating raisins as I read the paragraph above. And.... thinking about the figs on my tree only 30 steps away. At times I eat as many as 50 per day. As you stated, it is virtually impossible for the ones who are already in a weakened condition for any reason to attack some of the methods that a healthy ( or moderately so ) person can attack. >The web site that Wayne Figgit posted recommended only 1 or two servings of >protein per day. Yet many people would develop protein deficiency symptoms >on that little amount of protein. There has been some disagreement in the amount of protein required. We know that people who labor hard, weight lifters, and marathon runners would need more than the people who live seditary lives. If I get one to two hours of light exercise per day, I feel lucky. Two servings could provide the amount needed for some people. The thumb rule I have believed for many years is 1 gram per kg of body weight. I eat trailmix daily, protein wafers, and have one protein drink with raw eggs and 16 ounces of skim milk. Likely I get too much protein at times. > (I did, after being on a mostly raw foods vegan diet for 1 1/2 years > that should have alkalinized my body, but instead >made me even more acidic, and made me develop definite protein deficiency >symptoms. I actually have a higher pH with a high protein diet. Anyone care >to explain this?) Yes, ..... when you prove to yourself that something positive results from something marginal or against the grain, ...... this proves that much misinformation still exists. For example, the mainstream doctors love to have patients who are overweight and smoke. They have a scapegoat for all of the ailments. They say you have to loose weight. So..... I lost 40 pounds and my blood pressure was higher than when I weighed 250. I now weigh 210 and my body weight is very stable, I do not gain or loose 1 pound no matter what I eat and how much. Glory be! Someone lied to me about loosing weight for lowering blood pressure. >Is there anyone who can explain all of this rather than just posting very >generalized web sites? NO one can explain all your questions and statements, that is certain. Nutrition and health is a new science. The biggest problem of all is that BILLIONS of dollars have been spent to distort and conceal the truth. Possibly this is one area you have not studied. As far as my little mickey mouse articles being " Generalized web sites " .... I have limited space for these articles. I cannot hope to cover any subject in the detail that I would like. So...... just as your lengthy message did, my goal is to create more questions than answers in hopes that I will " turn on " the interest in a few people to study and search for truth. Please don't misunderstand me. I liked your message and read it two times. I wish I knew more of the answers. I will continue to study and search for truth. Maybe one day I will know a few of the answers. Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 Evening Linda, >>I get very frustrated trying to find a good source >for information about the acid/alkaline balance and it seems like there is >a very large gap where this subject is concerned. So I've been trying to >puzzle it out with all the conflicting information that I am able to find. I feel the same way most of the time. Do you have all, or some of the Cary Reams info? I have a few documents that I plan to make into web pages as soon as I get permission from the person who send them to me. If you have any info, please post links of send the documents to me. Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2002 Report Share Posted August 10, 2002 Wayne, I really appreciate your trying to answer my questions. I think you made a very good attempt at it. I get very frustrated trying to find a good source for information about the acid/alkaline balance and it seems like there is a very large gap where this subject is concerned. So I've been trying to puzzle it out with all the conflicting information that I am able to find. Linda Jones lindaj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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