Guest guest Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 How about reducing table salt in our diets to skew the potassium ratio? In addition there's been no proof that blood pressure has anything to do with salt intake. I hear jicama, a root vegetable, is a better source of potassium. Anyway, you need three to five TIMES the potassium to sodium in your diet. Potassium is plentiful in a lot of vegetables, and the supplement is cheap at the health food store. It is used with cal/mag/D to restore alkaline pH to the whole body. There is a complex patchwork of quotes out there, by quasi-authoritative sources who are keeping us sick. Here they are using the blood pressure scare again, while encouraging obesity through promoting one of the more high-glycemic fruits. And we all know that obesity and diabetes is becoming an even bigger business than blood pressure meds. Wholistically enough, normalizing your metabolism will automagically reduce blood pressure and your risks from all disease. Blood pressure responds well to Linus Pauling's (and Matthias Raths') trick of using two amino acids, lysine and proline, and an antioxidant program top restore flexibility to the blood vessels. Do we ever hear about that from the " esteemed " FDA?? Proline breaks down from another amino, arginine. WooHoo! Arginine and lysine are two of the main components of the amino blend that anti-aging doctors and nutritionists use to increase your natural HGH, which helps you heal. Patricia > > BLOOD PRESSURE: > This unique tropical fruit is extremely high in potassium yet low in > salt, making it the perfect food for helping to beat blood pressure. So > much so, the US Food and Drug Administration has just allowed the banana > industry to make official claims for the fruit's ability to reduce the > risk of blood pressure and stroke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 ---Patricia, Linus Pauling and Matthias Rath. Their recommendations should be followed first and foremost I agree. However, I also believe that there are those who would greatly benefit from eating bananas on a daily basis. But then on the other side of the coin,I agree, there are some with chronic diabetes who should avoid them completely. Apparently those who have no problem with their pancreas can benefit from eating bananas. When a part of a balanced diet, I think that even diabetics and those with high blood pressure could benefit from their high enzyme content. I have a neice who suffers both from high blood pressure and severe diabetes! Her physician recommended that she eat half a banana as part of her daily diet. I am of the opinion that we have to exercise our own discretion when partaking of these high glycemic fruits and vegetables. I wholeheartedly agree that one should restrict their intake of high glycemic fruits if afflicted with diabetes in ANY form. However, I also believe that they can be highly beneficial to others who have no problems with high glucose levels. Apparently diabetics have problems metabolizing sugar, even fruit sugar (fructose). Now, for the record, I would like to say that I have never had a problem metabolizing sugar, even refined sugar. AND...I can honestly say that bananas have literally saved my life. Some several years previous to this, I had an ulcer, heart disease, along with clogged arteries and some other things I'm not going to mention here. I firmly believe that i would not be alive today if it were not for eating bananas. I read that bananas (a little on the green side) were great for ulcers, so I started eating them for my ulcers. I found that the more I ate...the better my heart functioned and my arteries improved (from the potassium content). Of course I did other things as well, but I hold bananas in high regard for their healing properties. When I had no strength to prepare meals, they were there to provide the necesary enzymes for my body to function. I have heard that if one is to heal they must take in eighty percent of their diet in fresh natural foods high in enzymes. I was so weak I could not eat an apple and my ulcer could not bear citrus, but I managed to exist on bananas. I have to smile when You say that bananas contribute to obesity! I Lost weight eating them!!<smile> Regards, JoAnn Guest angelprincessjo Friendsforhealthnaturally http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html In Gettingwell, Patricia Gilbert <patriciagilbert@s...> wrote: > How about reducing table salt in our diets to skew the potassium ratio? In > addition there's been no proof that blood pressure has anything to do with > salt intake. > > I hear jicama, a root vegetable, is a better source of potassium. Anyway, > you need three to five TIMES the potassium to sodium in your diet. Potassium > is plentiful in a lot of vegetables, and the supplement is cheap at the > health food store. It is used with cal/mag/D to restore alkaline pH to the > whole body. > > There is a complex patchwork of quotes out there, by quasi- authoritative > sources who are keeping us sick. Here they are using the blood pressure > scare again, while encouraging obesity through promoting one of the more > high-glycemic fruits. And we all know that obesity and diabetes is becoming > an even bigger business than blood pressure meds. > > Wholistically enough, normalizing your metabolism will automagically reduce > blood pressure and your risks from all disease. Blood pressure responds well > to Linus Pauling's (and Matthias Raths') trick of using two amino acids, > lysine and proline, and an antioxidant program top restore flexibility to > the blood vessels. Do we ever hear about that from the " esteemed " FDA?? > > Proline breaks down from another amino, arginine. WooHoo! Arginine and > lysine are two of the main components of the amino blend that anti- aging > doctors and nutritionists use to increase your natural HGH, which helps you > heal. > > Patricia > > > > > BLOOD PRESSURE: > > This unique tropical fruit is extremely high in potassium yet low in > > salt, making it the perfect food for helping to beat blood pressure. So > > much so, the US Food and Drug Administration has just allowed the banana > > industry to make official claims for the fruit's ability to reduce the > > risk of blood pressure and stroke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 - " mrsjoguest " <jguest Saturday, August 03, 2002 6:10 PM Re: bananas, potassium -- NOT!! > ---Patricia, Linus Pauling and Matthias Rath. Their recommendations > should be followed first and foremost I agree. > However, I also believe that there are those who would greatly > benefit from eating bananas on a daily basis. > But then on the other side of the coin,I agree, there are some with > chronic diabetes who should avoid them completely. Apparently those > who have no problem with their pancreas can benefit from eating > bananas. > When a part of a balanced diet, I think that even diabetics and > those with high blood pressure could benefit from their high enzyme > content. I have a neice who suffers both from high blood pressure > and severe diabetes! Her physician recommended that she eat half a > banana as part of her daily diet. > > I am of the opinion that we have to exercise our own discretion > when partaking of these high glycemic fruits and vegetables. I > wholeheartedly agree that one should restrict their intake of high > glycemic fruits if afflicted with diabetes in ANY form. > > However, I also believe that they can be highly beneficial to > others who have no problems with high glucose levels. Apparently > diabetics have problems metabolizing sugar, even fruit sugar > (fructose). I eat a big fruit & berry smoothie every morning with added fiber & have had no problem with blood glucose spikes. I am regulating my diabetes with diet alone & no AMA drugs. After being diagnosed as a diabetic I cut out about half my fruit & went from 2 bananas a day down to 1/2 banana. But unless I absolutely must, I am not gonna cut out my fruit & berries as I feel they are overall good for me. Pior to being diagnosed a diabetic, I normally ate at least 2 bananas a day for over 35 years & have never had any problems with high blood pressure, even though I was 50-70 pounds overweight for a good portion of that time. Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 But there is, not for everyone but for some SALT is definitely a contributory factor. I know of at least 2 other people who have hbp, one cut out salt and processed foods and the bp went down, the other one didn't and just has to keep taking meds. I never did have salt (other than with my fries) but I ate a lot of processed foods, cutting out 95% of the processed foods that I had, my bp is going down without the aid of meds. Marianne > How about reducing table salt in our diets to skew the potassium ratio? In > addition there's been no proof that blood pressure has anything to do with > salt intake. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 I think there is a major misunderstanding about high-glycemic index foods going on here. I've had problems with severe hypoglycemia a few years back, where even eating every two hours was not controlling the hypoglycemia, and I was having such severe episodes that it was causing major neurological problems. I spent a considerable amount of time researching it to come up with solutions. I'm now able to control it WITHOUT having to avoid high glycemic index foods, and without elevating my blood sugar levels or getting insulin spikes or having reactive hypoglycemia episodes any more. I am able to eat only two meals a day, without developing hypoglycemic symptoms, without having to resort to eating many small meals all day long. So I think I've had considerable success at learning how to control it, and I think I have some knowledge about blood sugar management. When eaten by themselves, high glycemic index foods are high glycemic and will contribute to raising insulin levels, and when eaten all the time will contribute to an increasing amount of insulin being released. It trains the body to react more and more strongly with insulin, till the body begins to produce too MUCH insulin, and then you develop reactive hypoglycemia, or diabetes when the body starts to resist the high insulin levels. When eaten with the right combination of other foods, however, high glycemic index foods become lower in glycemic index. Even banana's. The key is to not eat high glycemic index foods by themselves, but to always eat them with foods that slow down their absorption, or eat them infrequently enough that the insulin response isn't trained to become excessive. For example eating high fiber foods or taking supplemental fiber along with a high glycemic index food reduces it's glycemic index. Eating high protein foods, or high fat foods also reduces the glycemic index of a food because protein and fat take longer to digest, and slow down the time food passes into the small intestine where it is absorbed. Potatoes are a high glycemic index food by themselves. But when you fix them with lots of sour cream and butter, suddenly they become a low glycemic index food. Ice cream, which you would assume to be a high glycemic index food because of it's sugar content, is actually a low glycemic index food because of the high fat content. I'm not saying that eating baked potatoes loaded with high fat toppings or ice cream is good for you. But what I'm saying is that it is possible to eat bananas with the right combination of other foods and not have an insulin reaction to them. You don't have to eat a high fat diet in order to eat high glycemic index foods. You can choose healthy combinations, such as eating them with fresh raw nuts, which have a lot of fat but also have a high protein content, or eating them with oat bran, which slows down the absorption of the sugar from the banana. Also, if you have been eating a low glycemic index diet for long enough, your body will not over-react with insulin when you eat a high glycemic index food by itself. It's okay to eat them once in a while without increasing insulin reactivity, just so long as you aren't doing it so often that it begins to cause insulin reactivity. The idea is to not eat them by themselves frequently enough to drive up the insulin levels, because insulin reaction is a trained reaction. The more you train it to be produced in large amounts, the more insulin it produces. The more you control blood sugar levels, the less insulin is produced in reaction to the food. And the third issue is that timing is important. If you eat banana's when you are being sedentary, they will be turned into fat, and they will drive up insulin levels. But if you eat them before exercising, you will be burning the sugar as quickly as it is being absorbed into the blood stream, which reduces the insulin spikes because you prevent the blood sugar from raising too high. I recently heard a good analogy to describe this reaction. Picture your cells as rooms that are processing people through them. Insulin is the doorman, who holds the door open for blood sugar to enter. As long as the blood sugar entering is being processed quickly, and leaves the room, more blood sugar can be allowed to enter the room, and the doorman (insulin) doesn't have a problem doing his job. But when the blood sugar isn't being burned up quickly enough, the room fills up with sugar, and then it has to struggle to put that sugar somewhere. Sugar becomes backed up in the blood stream because there isn't room in the cells fast enough for it, and the body reacts by producing more doormen (insulin) to pack more sugar into the room, rather than speeding up processing the blood sugar. When you do things to speed up the processing of blood sugar, the body cuts back on the doormen because the line outside the room isn't as long. The idea is to increase burning the blood sugar by exercising, to speed up it's processing through the cells. And finally, if you want your body to be able to handle occasionally eating a high glycemic index food, you have to be sure that you keep your adrenal glands healthy, because blood sugar is controlled by the adrenal system. When you are stressed, your adrenal gland will tell your liver to produce glycogen to raise blood sugar levels, in preparation for quick reaction in a fight-or-flight response, and if your adrenal glands are over-reacting, (which happens when they are weakened, or over-worked) your body will start pumping up the insulin to compensate for the increased blood sugar levels released in response to the adrenal response. Keep the adrenal glands healthy, avoid excess stress, and the insulin levels will not be trained to be excessively high. Conversely, the adrenal glands are activated when blood sugar levels drop low, so having reactive hypoglycemia can increase the over-reactivity of the adrenal glands, weakening them. Managing blood sugar levels can strengthen the adrenal glands. So it's a two way street. On another subject, my understanding of growth hormone (Another subject that I've spent a considerable amount of time studying because I have Fibromyalgia, which is being linked with low growth hormone levels) is that it is released nocturnally, in short bursts throughout the night, during deep sleep, not during the daytime. Eating a banana during the day is not going to stop the release of growth hormone at night. Eating a banana at night would, but then you also have to be awake to eat a banana, and you only release growth hormone in your sleep. Going to bed at night with high blood sugar levels would also interfere with growth hormone. But if you eat early enough in the evening, or don't eat high glycemic index foods before bedtime, and eat food with adequate fiber, protein and fat, your blood sugar levels will not be elevated when you go to bed. Ironically, low blood sugar can also decrease growth hormone levels because it stimulates an adrenal response that can disrupt sleep and increase nighttime blood sugar levels, so it isn't a good idea to skip supper, either. Managing stress levels during the day prevents adrenal responses at night. Linda Jones lindaj - " mrsjoguest " <jguest Saturday, August 03, 2002 6:10 PM Re: bananas, potassium -- NOT!! > ---Patricia, Linus Pauling and Matthias Rath. Their recommendations > should be followed first and foremost I agree. > However, I also believe that there are those who would greatly > benefit from eating bananas on a daily basis. > But then on the other side of the coin,I agree, there are some with > chronic diabetes who should avoid them completely. Apparently those > who have no problem with their pancreas can benefit from eating > bananas. > When a part of a balanced diet, I think that even diabetics and > those with high blood pressure could benefit from their high enzyme > content. I have a neice who suffers both from high blood pressure > and severe diabetes! Her physician recommended that she eat half a > banana as part of her daily diet. > > I am of the opinion that we have to exercise our own discretion > when partaking of these high glycemic fruits and vegetables. I > wholeheartedly agree that one should restrict their intake of high > glycemic fruits if afflicted with diabetes in ANY form. > > However, I also believe that they can be highly beneficial to > others who have no problems with high glucose levels. Apparently > diabetics have problems metabolizing sugar, even fruit sugar > (fructose). > Now, for the record, I would like to say that I have never had a > problem metabolizing sugar, even refined sugar. AND...I can honestly > say that bananas have literally saved my life. > Some several years previous to this, I had an ulcer, heart disease, > along with clogged arteries and some other things I'm not going to > mention here. > > I firmly believe that i would not be alive today if it were not for > eating bananas. I read that bananas (a little on the green side) > were great for ulcers, so I started eating them for my ulcers. I > found that the more I ate...the better my heart functioned and my > arteries improved (from the potassium content). Of course I did > other things as well, but I hold bananas in high regard for their > healing properties. When I had no strength to prepare meals, they > were there to provide the necesary enzymes for my body to function. > > I have heard that if one is to heal they must take in eighty percent > of their diet in fresh natural foods high in enzymes. I was so weak > I could not eat an apple and my ulcer could not bear citrus, but I > managed to exist on bananas. I have to smile when You say that > bananas contribute to obesity! I Lost weight eating them!!<smile> > > Regards, > JoAnn Guest > angelprincessjo > Friendsforhealthnaturally > http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html > > In Gettingwell, Patricia Gilbert <patriciagilbert@s...> wrote: > > How about reducing table salt in our diets to skew the potassium > ratio? In > > addition there's been no proof that blood pressure has anything > to do with > > salt intake. > > > > I hear jicama, a root vegetable, is a better source of > potassium. Anyway, > > you need three to five TIMES the potassium to sodium in your diet. > Potassium > > is plentiful in a lot of vegetables, and the supplement is cheap > at the > > health food store. It is used with cal/mag/D to restore alkaline > pH to the > > whole body. > > > > There is a complex patchwork of quotes out there, by quasi- > authoritative > > sources who are keeping us sick. Here they are using the blood > pressure > > scare again, while encouraging obesity through promoting one of > the more > > high-glycemic fruits. And we all know that obesity and diabetes is > becoming > > an even bigger business than blood pressure meds. > > > > Wholistically enough, normalizing your metabolism will > automagically reduce > > blood pressure and your risks from all disease. Blood pressure > responds well > > to Linus Pauling's (and Matthias Raths') trick of using two amino > acids, > > lysine and proline, and an antioxidant program top restore > flexibility to > > the blood vessels. Do we ever hear about that from the " esteemed " > FDA?? > > > > Proline breaks down from another amino, arginine. WooHoo! Arginine > and > > lysine are two of the main components of the amino blend that anti- > aging > > doctors and nutritionists use to increase your natural HGH, which > helps you > > heal. > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > BLOOD PRESSURE: > > > This unique tropical fruit is extremely high in potassium yet > low in > > > salt, making it the perfect food for helping to beat blood > pressure. So > > > much so, the US Food and Drug Administration has just allowed > the banana > > > industry to make official claims for the fruit's ability to > reduce the > > > risk of blood pressure and stroke. > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > and well being. > > list or archives: Gettingwell > > ........ Gettingwell- > post............. Gettingwell > digest form...... Gettingwell-digest > individual emails Gettingwell-normal > no email......... Gettingwell-nomail > moderator ....... Gettingwell-owner > ...... 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