Guest guest Posted July 5, 2002 Report Share Posted July 5, 2002 Hi All, just over a week ago i was told that i had a large mass on or attached to my kidney, but when i got to see the specialist yesterday, he informed me that the *large mass* is in fact my kidney. It is malignant, and been there for at least 10 yrs. How could useless dr's over the yrs miss that ?? This is what else i was told by the specialist. I could bleed to death on the table. I wont get chemo, because if he doesn't get it all, there is no other cure. There was a 3rd, but would you believe i can't remember it. Nice huh ?? Question 1. Has any-one had this, or know of any-one who has ?? if so, how did he/she get on ?? Question 2. What foods/supplements/exercises etc should i take/do to get my body a bit stronger for major surgery ?? All the supplements/oils etc that i was taking for the fibromyalgia and arthritis i stopped taking months ago as they didn't help, so now i am on nothing. I still eat good organic food though. My symptoms are, terrible pain in *the* kidney, a tired and worn out feeling all the time, a terrible taste in my mouth, not peeing as much and indigestion, whether i have eaten or not. Well i think that is it, apart from i hopefully go in for surgery on the 29th July. Hope someone can help. Regards, Dorothy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2002 Report Share Posted July 5, 2002 You could join the Flax Oil list. Almost everyone has cancer. Some were sent home to die over 10 years ago. BonnieB In a message dated 7/4/2002 7:12:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dotcats writes: << Hi All, just over a week ago i was told that i had a large mass on or attached to my kidney, but when i got to see the specialist yesterday, he informed me that the *large mass* is in fact my kidney. It is malignant, and been there for at least 10 yrs. How could useless dr's over the yrs miss that ?? This is what else i was told by the specialist. I could bleed to death on the table. I wont get chemo, because if he doesn't get it all, there is no other cure. There was a 3rd, but would you believe i can't remember it. Nice huh ?? Question 1. Has any-one had this, or know of any-one who has ?? if so, how did he/she get on ?? Question 2. What foods/supplements/exercises etc should i take/do to get my body a bit stronger for major surgery ?? All the supplements/oils etc that i was taking for the fibromyalgia and arthritis i stopped taking months ago as they didn't help, so now i am on nothing. I still eat good organic food though. My symptoms are, terrible pain in *the* kidney, a tired and worn out feeling all the time, a terrible taste in my mouth, not peeing as much and indigestion, whether i have eaten or not. Well i think that is it, apart from i hopefully go in for surgery on the 29th July. Hope someone can help. Regards, Dorothy. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2002 Report Share Posted July 5, 2002 for cancer and tumors, please join the flax oil list.... flax oil and cottage cheese. BonnieB In a message dated 7/5/2002 12:02:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, egcress writes: << Dear Dorothy, I am very sorry to hear of your diagnosis. My sister-in-law has renal clear cell cancer. She was diagnosed with this two years ago and had a kidney removed about a year ago. I have read that Dr. Linus Pauling, the vitamin C guru, found that people who received massive doses of vitamin C intraveneously extended their lives and felt better. In some cases, cancer tumours went into remission or disappeared completely. The verdict is still out on its efficacy. Thinking of you, Anna >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2002 Report Share Posted July 5, 2002 In regard to the kidney mass...it would and could only be detected on physical exam if large enough and that depends on how lean you are...it takes time for the mass to enlarge and in the meantime..there could have been abnormal lab values associated. However, if you had no specific symptoms then you're prior docs would not have been prompted to order such labs. Otherwise the only way the kidney mass could be detected is with an imaging exam such as ultrasound or CTscan or MRI. frank - Dorothy Gettingwell Thursday, July 04, 2002 6:11 PM Malignant kidney cancer Hi All, just over a week ago i was told that i had a large mass on or attached to my kidney, but when i got to see the specialist yesterday, he informed me that the *large mass* is in fact my kidney. It is malignant, and been there for at least 10 yrs. How could useless dr's over the yrs miss that ?? This is what else i was told by the specialist. I could bleed to death on the table. I wont get chemo, because if he doesn't get it all, there is no other cure. There was a 3rd, but would you believe i can't remember it. Nice huh ?? Question 1. Has any-one had this, or know of any-one who has ?? if so, how did he/she get on ?? Question 2. What foods/supplements/exercises etc should i take/do to get my body a bit stronger for major surgery ?? All the supplements/oils etc that i was taking for the fibromyalgia and arthritis i stopped taking months ago as they didn't help, so now i am on nothing. I still eat good organic food though. My symptoms are, terrible pain in *the* kidney, a tired and worn out feeling all the time, a terrible taste in my mouth, not peeing as much and indigestion, whether i have eaten or not. Well i think that is it, apart from i hopefully go in for surgery on the 29th July. Hope someone can help. Regards, Dorothy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2002 Report Share Posted July 5, 2002 On 7/4/02 7:11 PM, " Dorothy " <dotcats wrote: > Hi All, > just over a week ago i was told that i had a large mass on or attached to my > kidney, but when i got to see the specialist yesterday, he informed me that > the *large mass* is in fact my kidney. > It is malignant, and been there for at least 10 yrs. > How could useless dr's over the yrs miss that ?? > > This is what else i was told by the specialist. > > I could bleed to death on the table. > I wont get chemo, because if he doesn't get it all, there is no other cure. > There was a 3rd, but would you believe i can't remember it. > Nice huh ?? > > Question 1. > Has any-one had this, or know of any-one who has ?? if so, how did he/she > get on ?? > > Question 2. > What foods/supplements/exercises etc should i take/do to get my body a bit > stronger for major surgery ?? > > All the supplements/oils etc that i was taking for the fibromyalgia and > arthritis i stopped taking months ago as they didn't help, so now i am on > nothing. > I still eat good organic food though. > > My symptoms are, terrible pain in *the* kidney, a tired and worn out feeling > all the time, a terrible taste in my mouth, not peeing as much and > indigestion, whether i have eaten or not. > > Well i think that is it, apart from i hopefully go in for surgery on the > 29th July. > > Hope someone can help. > > Regards, Dorothy. > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > and well being. > > list or archives: Gettingwell > > ........ Gettingwell- > post............. Gettingwell > digest form...... Gettingwell-digest > individual emails Gettingwell-normal > no email......... Gettingwell-nomail > moderator ....... Gettingwell-owner > ...... Gettingwell- > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2002 Report Share Posted July 5, 2002 - " Anna-Jean Cresswell " <egcress Thursday, July 04, 2002 11:01 PM Re: Malignant kidney cancer > On 7/4/02 7:11 PM, " Dorothy " <dotcats wrote: > > > Hi All, > > just over a week ago i was told that i had a large mass on or attached to my > > kidney, but when i got to see the specialist yesterday, he informed me that > > the *large mass* is in fact my kidney. > > It is malignant, and been there for at least 10 yrs. > > > Dear Dorothy, > > I have read that Dr. Linus Pauling, the vitamin C guru, found that people > who received massive doses of vitamin C intraveneously extended their lives > and felt better. In some cases, cancer tumours went into remission or > disappeared completely. The verdict is still out on its efficacy. On FlaxSeedOil2 list, I just received the info below with lots of URLs on Vitamin C which I am passing on here. I would also recommend info put forth by Matthias Rath, MD, who was a protege of Linus Pauling. http://www.dr-rath-research.org/literature/default.php Alobar - " glogan " <glogan " Flax Seed Oil " <FlaxSeedOil2 > Friday, July 04, 2003 10:40 PM [FlaxSeedOil2] Fw: The Vitamin C Controversy > Cliff....... something on Vit C for you, might be interesting. > > Gerry Logan > > - > mbgupta > Recipient list suppressed > July 4, 2002 11:34 PM > The Vitamin C Controversy > > > The CBC ( " Quirks & Quarks " for September 22, 2001) radio science show did a > interesting program on vitamin C. As anyone who has studied this vitamin and > seen my previous notes should quickly agree that there's hardly a > controversy its more like a conspiracy. > > It is ironic that relative imbeciles (compared to Pauling) have the audacity > to call him a fool. Its even stranger that public continually fall for these > shenanigans. Just hear anyone discuss medicine and it invariably turns to > the need for money for the pharmaceuticals to do some sort of complicated > research or study when hundreds and hundreds of non patentable remedies and > methods to treat disease can be easily tested and are being used in > countries like Cuba etc. For example sterilizing blood with vitamin C as > done in Japan or Ozone was has been shown by the Canadian Army. I can go on > and on... > > Go to the following site to download or listen to the program and access > links on Vitamin C. > > http://www.radio.cbc.ca/programs/quirks/archives/01-02/sep2201.htm > > Important sites not shown on the above, that should dispel any thoughts of > controversy are: > > The Primary site on Vitamin C is: > > http://www.orthomed.com/ > > From this site the following papers are a must read: > > http://www.internetwks.com/pauling/cath/cathmain.html#thetop > > http://www.islandnet.com/~hoffer/ > > http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/mega_1_1.html > > http://www.nutri.com/wn/klenner.html > > > The second last one includes many many peer reviewed references reprinted > with permission by The Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients (Apr/May > 1997) > > Other important sites: > > http://www.canceraction.org.gg/inext.htm#top > > http://www.dr-rath-research.org/home/index.php > > " There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is > proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep man in > everlasting ignorance. That principle is condemnation without > investigation. " > Herbert Spencer > -- > Chris Gupta > > The Vitamin C Controversy > > In the 1970's, when Nobel Laureate Linus Pauling claimed that vitamin C > could not only cure the common cold, but cure cancer too, the medical > establishment denounced his ideas. Now, new research has prompted some > scientists to take a second look at the therapeutic potential of the world's > most popular vitamin. > > Quirks contributor Alicia Priest, a former nurse and a freelance journalist > in Victoria, prepared this special documentary on the vitamin C debate. > > Dr. Abram Hoffer is a Victoria psychiatrist who knew Linus Pauling, and has > been advising his own cancer patients to take large doses of vitamin C > daily. He says many of their tumours have disappeared. > > Dr. Mark Levine, a molecular scientist at the National Institutes of Health > in Bethesda, Maryland, says we get all the vitamin C we need from a daily > dose of fruits and vegetables. > > Dr. John Hoffer, a professor of medicine at McGill University, says more > research must be done on vitamin C to understand its biological mechanism. > He believes it has the oxidative ability to attack free radicals, which > cause DNA mutations. > > Dr. Ian Blair, a professor of pharmacology at the University of > Pennsylvania, did a study last summer that showed vitamin C can damage DNA > in a test tube - but he insists it doesn't prove vitamin C might cause > cancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2002 Report Share Posted July 7, 2002 Hi Alobar, thank you for all that info. I have a faulty monitor at the moment that is only allowing me to view a section 8 " x 4 " so that rules out internet explorer, i am taking it in tomorrow to get fixed (hopefully) so i will then be able to visit the sites you so kindly sent. Thank you again. Regards, Dorothy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2002 Report Share Posted July 7, 2002 Hi All, for those who have answered me privately and to the group, thank you. I propose joining the flax seed group just as soon as i get my monitor fixed. >>>>>it would and could only be detected on physical exam if large enough. I have felt it down there for at least 3 yrs and on various examinations have said how tender and sore it was there. This type of cancer grows at about 3cm a year, which makes mine about 30cm or 12 " . >>>>>However, if you had no specific symptoms then you're prior docs would not have been prompted to order such labs. Having arthritis and fybromyalgia hasn't helped. One of the symptoms of this cancer is blood in the urine, but, unfortunately it is also a symptom of the ecoli bacteria, of which i have had 5 times this year in my uterus. >>>>>the only way the kidney mass could be detected is with an imaging exam such as ultrasound or CTscan or MRI. Mine is so big you can feel it. I am having the ct scan on the 19th to see if it had spread anywhere else. >>>>>I have read that Dr. Linus Pauling, the vitamin C guru, found that people who received massive doses of vitamin C intraveneously extended their lives and felt better. In some cases, cancer tumours went into remission or disappeared completely. Will definately look into that, thank you. Someone mentioned chemo, well i can't have that because with this cancer it doesn't work. This one drops *seeds* which grow throughout the body and become malignant like the original, so, only one operation as well, doesn't seem fair, but that is what the specialist said. I hope i have answered all who have written, if not i am very sorry. Regards, Dorothy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2002 Report Share Posted July 15, 2002 You may want to join the flax oil list. It's for cancer patients. They combine flax oil and cottage cheese daily (search Dr. Budwig) and many have had much success... BonnieB In a message dated 7/5/2002 12:02:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, egcress writes: << On 7/4/02 7:11 PM, " Dorothy " <dotcats wrote: > Hi All, > just over a week ago i was told that i had a large mass on or attached to my > kidney, but when i got to see the specialist yesterday, he informed me that > the *large mass* is in fact my kidney. > It is malignant, and been there for at least 10 yrs. > How could useless dr's over the yrs miss that ?? > > This is what else i was told by the specialist. > > I could bleed to death on the table. > I wont get chemo, because if he doesn't get it all, there is no other cure. > There was a 3rd, but would you believe i can't remember it. > Nice huh ?? > > Question 1. > Has any-one had this, or know of any-one who has ?? if so, how did he/she > get on ?? > > Question 2. > What foods/supplements/exercises etc should i take/do to get my body a bit > stronger for major surgery ?? > > All the supplements/oils etc that i was taking for the fibromyalgia and > arthritis i stopped taking months ago as they didn't help, so now i am on > nothing. > I still eat good organic food though. > > My symptoms are, terrible pain in *the* kidney, a tired and worn out feeling > all the time, a terrible taste in my mouth, not peeing as much and > indigestion, whether i have eaten or not. > > Well i think that is it, apart from i hopefully go in for surgery on the > 29th July. > > Hope someone can help. > > Regards, Dorothy. > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > and well being. > > list or archives: Gettingwell > > ........ Gettingwell- > post............. Gettingwell > digest form...... Gettingwell-digest > individual emails Gettingwell-normal > no email......... Gettingwell-nomail > moderator ....... Gettingwell-owner > ...... Gettingwell- > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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