100's of grams of Vitamin C

[Guest guest]

Was that a misprint about taking 100's of grams of Vitamin C. If it

appears on a a Pauoing book; whidh book wahat page?

 

Lorenzo

[Guest guest]

Gettingwell, " Lorenzo " <lorenzo1@w...> wrote:

> Was that a misprint about taking 100's of grams of Vitamin C. If

it

> appears on a a Pauoing book; whidh book wahat page?

>

> Lorenzo

 

Not a misprint. People routinely take 100-200g for severe colds/flus.

People with cancer/HIV/etc are taking much more. Search on the web

for the info, it's there.

 

--Michael

[Guest guest]

Yes, some cancer clinics do give that high a Vit C dose.

 

The difference is that although 200 grams daily of Vit C can be given to shrink

tumours etc... that high a

dose required intravenous application due to the intense gastric disturbances

that start to occur in the

range of only about 12 grams when taken orally.

 

There are better antioxidants to take than vitamin c, even for tumours. For

example, the glutathione

increaser Immunocal is patented as a chemotherapeutic, and patented also for

glutathione production. In the

USA, the doctor can find it in his prescription guide.

 

Glutathione is the body's main detoxifier and antioxidant and works inside the

cells where 90% is needed. One

of its natural functions is to recycle vitamin C and other antioxidants; without

glutathione, these

antioxidants would only be used once.

 

In my view Linus Pauling missed that important fact big-time. With glutathione

increase you don't need that

kind of a vitamin C dose. You can get by with 1 to 2 grams daily and still

shrink the tumours.

 

 

best regards,

 

Duncan

 

> <medwards706

> Re: 100's of grams of Vitamin C

>

> Gettingwell, " Lorenzo " <lorenzo1@w...> wrote:

> > Was that a misprint about taking 100's of grams of Vitamin C. If

> it

> > appears on a a Pauoing book; whidh book wahat page?

> >

> > Lorenzo

>

> Not a misprint. People routinely take 100-200g for severe colds/flus.

> People with cancer/HIV/etc are taking much more. Search on the web

> for the info, it's there.

>

> --Michael

>

 

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[Guest guest]

" ...it is important to note that two recent studies by a group of scientists

at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) have indicated that vitamin C

concentrations in cells and tissues are saturated at a daily intake of 100

to 200 mg. These observations are consistent with other findings that intake

levels of 100 to 200 mg/day are associated with maximum vitamin C body pools

in humans and lowered risk of chronic disease, in particular, heart disease,

stroke, and cancer. "

http://lpi.orst.edu/infocenter/paulingrec.html

 

Rob

[Guest guest]

Gettingwell, " Rob Bartlett " <robbartlett@s...> wrote:

> " ...it is important to note that two recent studies by a group of

scientists

> at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) have indicated that

vitamin C

> concentrations in cells and tissues are saturated at a daily intake

of 100

> to 200 mg. These observations are consistent with other findings

that intake

> levels of 100 to 200 mg/day are associated with maximum vitamin C

body pools

> in humans and lowered risk of chronic disease, in particular, heart

disease,

> stroke, and cancer. "

> http://lpi.orst.edu/infocenter/paulingrec.html

>

> Rob

 

It is interesting that some in this world are so busy try to

establish upper limit intakes of Vits at such low levels.

Let's see now the three biggest empolyers of former FDA and

NIH scientist are pharmaceutical companys developing drugs

for..what was that last line now,..heart disease, stroke and

cancer. I just bet that can find a connection between higher

dosages of C and deprression next. In the mean time fascinating

that the subject of mercury almagams, flouridated water, inc

autism in children, and the very high levels of heart disease

rates found in autopsy of killed in action vets at the ripe

old age of twenty, the levels of pesticides and insecticides,

lead, and other toxic chemicals are found in almost all children

of course all adults, and so many other subject are going

unresearched by NIH. Wonder why. Many of the drugs developed

by Gov. scientist as well as the stolen fame such as some PCR test,

and isolation and new culture techniques are discovered by the very

compies after they buy the license to marketing these things. Of

course NIH as a whole, (with the excutives getting the best Job

offers )gets a kick of the profits. I could go on, and on

Why believe anything coming out of NIH. The best book on the subject

of candida was written by a NIH libarian when NIH Docs did nothing

for her. the people that have resolved their own problems are

the ones to listen to. New England Journal just announced they

will no longer attempt to publish peer reviewed science because they

can not get the best researcher's articles published. In other words

there is so much collusion NEJM is no longer going to try to present

fair science. I wonder how hard our NIH and FDA individuals are going

to try to present a fair and impartial viewpoint of supplements

with everything to lose and nothing to gain for themselves.

What would you do????? Write somone in France, Germany, or Italy

and see what they say as consumers. Try to even send them more

than a few care vitamin care packages and watch what happens.......

This is behind CODEX and how they are going to scare everyone.

Every hear of Tyban the antismoking drug. It has already killed

instead of pulling that in Europe all of a sudden everyone is getting

liver failure from Kava Kava a competitive to Tyban as well

as antidepressants. Sure they are very concerned about health.

[Guest guest]

Gettingwell, Duncan Crow <duncancrow@s...> wrote:

>

> Yes, some cancer clinics do give that high a Vit C dose.

 

They most certainly do and for viral infections.

>

> The difference is that although 200 grams daily of Vit C can be

given to shrink tumours etc... that high a

> dose required intravenous application due to the intense gastric

disturbances that start to occur in the

> range of only about 12 grams when taken orally.

 

Why generalize this. Some people get trots with 1000mg some it

takes many grams. Most of find we can take mineral ascorbates

at most any level we want. 12 grams ascorbic acid is fairly high for

most though not all taken orally. IVs go much higher of course.

>

> There are better antioxidants to take than vitamin c, even for

tumours. For example, the glutathione

 

In terms of high C you missing the entire subject. High dose

C works as an oxidant. Many of the pharmaceutical drugs

do also. The side effects when given by IV are much less

fortunatly than the drugs use to kill the body and hopefully

the cancer dies first; that is exactly what many of the

chemo do. Even by IV C goes through the system very fast.

That is why two weeks daily of High C has had some farily

good results. some have even been given continuoous drips

for a few weeks. IN chronic viral infections, such as HIV and

HCV, antioxidant paths have been downregulated by elevation

of certain cytokins. All the triple HIV drugs and the

therapy currently used for HCV are very oxidative. And they

lower viral loads, so does IV C....It is possible it is due

to the same reason. Oxidation,.,,,

 

Your statement regarding glutathione and Linus Pauling

missing the band wagon...really now. Come on...Sure antioxidants

are depressed, you know what will make the level go

up. An oxidant Yep.....Remember C clears the body rapidly.

And yes of course one needs to building blocks for glutathione

check out methylselenocysteine. If you want check out some

of the stuff on Revici research with selenium. This implied

approach is more logical than some that start eating everything

that says antioxidant, and gosh don't forget the whey so

you can make glut. Very High Dose C is a medicine, not a food

supplement. I see nothing wrong however with anyone taking grams

even up to the level you mentioned, just don't expect to get

the same results as IVs. Or perhaps it simply takes much longer.

But understand taking it with food and antioxidants is about

like trying to start a fire with water. (That is an interesting

subject also :-)

This is what they don't want you to find out and to regulate.

HIGH IV C dosage does not always work either, great deal of

research on individual difference as well as disease conditions

cytokin profiles, immune cell subset studies and even difference

in DNA gnome and inherited biochemical traits. P>S>Oxygen therapies?

guess what, very similar subject.

 

Sorry for not proofing got to leave for work now Ciao

[Guest guest]

-

" Rob Bartlett " <robbartlett

 

Sunday, July 07, 2002 8:57 PM

Re: Re: 100's of grams of Vitamin C

 

 

> " ...it is important to note that two recent studies by a group of

scientists

> at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) have indicated that vitamin C

> concentrations in cells and tissues are saturated at a daily intake of 100

> to 200 mg. These observations are consistent with other findings that

intake

> levels of 100 to 200 mg/day are associated with maximum vitamin C body

pools

> in humans and lowered risk of chronic disease, in particular, heart

disease,

> stroke, and cancer. "

> http://lpi.orst.edu/infocenter/paulingrec.html

>

> Rob

 

The NIH is in criminal collusion to keep people sick & make money

for the drug companies & the allopathic docs. I have heard that Pauling

took 20 grams of vitamin C & measured the vitamin C content of his excrement

& urine & found only 1.5 grams -- which means the body somehow utilized the

other 18.5 grams.

 

About 25 years ago (in the late 1970's) I read an interview with a

doctor practicing in a mountain resort town (in Colorado, I believe). He

had patients who were in the ski patrol. Whenever a member of the ski

patrol came down with hepatitis or mono, they would be out of work for a

whole season. Then he began using vitamin C. Taken orally. To the

limit of bowel tolerance. He found his patience could take several hundred

grams of vitamin C a day when they were at their sickest. And they were

back to work in 2 weeks or less. I have been using mega doses of vitamin C

ever since. I am sure I have consumed at least half my body weight in

vitamin C over the past 25 years, possibly more.

 

Counter to the statements above, 200 mg of vitamin C a day won't do

diddly squat to help prevent heart disease & cancer -- compared to what mega

doses will do. Dr. Matthias Rath & Linus Pauling are the real pioneers in

this field. Dr. Rath has some very interesting free books available online

here: http://www.dr-rath-research.org/literature/default.php which not

only explain why vitamin C works in mega doses, but also deals with the

immoral/criminal behavior of the big drug companies in suppressing this

information.

 

Alobar

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much for that link Alobar.

 

Gettingwell, " Alobar " <alobar@b...> wrote:

>

> -

> " Rob Bartlett " <robbartlett@s...>

> <Gettingwell>

> Sunday, July 07, 2002 8:57 PM

> Re: Re: 100's of grams of Vitamin C

>

>

> > " ...it is important to note that two recent studies by a group of

> scientists

> > at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) have indicated that

vitamin C

> > concentrations in cells and tissues are saturated at a daily

intake of 100

> > to 200 mg. These observations are consistent with other findings

that

> intake

> > levels of 100 to 200 mg/day are associated with maximum vitamin C

body

> pools

> > in humans and lowered risk of chronic disease, in particular,

heart

> disease,

> > stroke, and cancer. "

> > http://lpi.orst.edu/infocenter/paulingrec.html

> >

> > Rob

>

> The NIH is in criminal collusion to keep people sick & make

money

> for the drug companies & the allopathic docs. I have heard that

Pauling

> took 20 grams of vitamin C & measured the vitamin C content of his

excrement

> & urine & found only 1.5 grams -- which means the body somehow

utilized the

> other 18.5 grams.

>

> About 25 years ago (in the late 1970's) I read an interview

with a

> doctor practicing in a mountain resort town (in Colorado, I

believe). He

> had patients who were in the ski patrol. Whenever a member of the

ski

> patrol came down with hepatitis or mono, they would be out of work

for a

> whole season. Then he began using vitamin C. Taken orally. To

the

> limit of bowel tolerance. He found his patience could take

several hundred

> grams of vitamin C a day when they were at their sickest. And

they were

> back to work in 2 weeks or less. I have been using mega doses of

vitamin C

> ever since. I am sure I have consumed at least half my body

weight in

> vitamin C over the past 25 years, possibly more.

>

> Counter to the statements above, 200 mg of vitamin C a day

won't do

> diddly squat to help prevent heart disease & cancer -- compared to

what mega

> doses will do. Dr. Matthias Rath & Linus Pauling are the real

pioneers in

> this field. Dr. Rath has some very interesting free books

available online

> here: http://www.dr-rath-research.org/literature/default.php

which not

> only explain why vitamin C works in mega doses, but also deals with

the

> immoral/criminal behavior of the big drug companies in suppressing

this

> information.

>

> Alobar