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Hi,

I've not scanned very many messages, and I hope I've come to the

right place. I basically am interested in nutrition...I tend to

believe the more natural we eat, the better... Which means I rarely

eat fast foods, no junk food (too much of the hydrogenated), only the

good kinds of fats (olive oil, canola, occasional butter).

 

A few questions....Does anyone know specific benefits of flax seed?

 

Also, I have read that a really low fat diet can contribute to

tenndonitis (which I have had for several months). Can anyone

enlighten me on this and are there any benefits of taking cod liver

oil for the inflammation. I'm currently taking Celebrex for it (but

not sure if it's helping greatly)?? Your thoughts would be

appreciated.

 

And lastly do any of you belong to a group that is open for nutrition

discussion....the good, the bad, the wonderful for your health kind

of thing.

 

Angie

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Angie

Get ready to hear unpleasant news about canola oil. It has gotten a bad rep

in the past few years. I've stopped using it. I routinely use the highest

quality extra virgin olive oil I can find, and flax oil, when I can find it

fresh. Coconut oil has been getting some good marks in many nutrition

quarters. I plan to add it to my diet.

Flax seed meal, especially made freshly in a grinder, is a near miracle

food, and has wide-ranging health benefits, especially against cancer and

cardio-vascular disease. If you use the oil, make sure it's fresh, use it

quickly, and taste a smidgen on your fingertip before use.

I was on an extremely low fat diet (10% or less of total fat! calories) for

four years. If there were any truth to the tendonitis notion, I wouldn't

have any tendons at this point.

On the other hand, the wisdom of very low fat diets, is highly

controversial. Dr. Dean Ornish is the most famous of its proponents, as

well as Nathan Pritikin, and Dr. John McDougall. They all believe that it

will reverse heart disease, as part of their somewhat different protocols.

You'd have to look at their evidence, to say if it seems persuasive to you.

I'm persuaded by thier evidence, to a point.

Best Luck

John P

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Friday, May 24, 2002 5:26 PM

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> Hi,

> I've not scanned very many messages, and I hope I've come to the

> right place. I basically am interested in nutrition...I tend to

> believe the more natural we eat, the better... Which means I rarely

> eat fast foods, no junk food (too much of the hydrogenated), only the

> good kinds of fats (olive oil, canola, occasional butter).

>

> A few questions....Does anyone know specific benefits of flax seed?

>

> Also, I have read that a really low fat diet can contribute to

> tenndonitis (which I have had for several months). Can anyone

> enlighten me on this and are there any benefits of taking cod liver

> oil for the inflammation. I'm currently taking Celebrex for it (but

> not sure if it's helping greatly)?? Your thoughts would be

> appreciated.

>

> And lastly do any of you belong to a group that is open for nutrition

> discussion....the good, the bad, the wonderful for your health kind

> of thing.

>

> Angie

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Evening Angie,

 

>And lastly do any of you belong to a group that is open for nutrition

>discussion....the good, the bad, the wonderful for your health kind

>of thing.

 

I suppose you mean a local group that gets together either weekly or

monthly and

discusses various nutritional topics.

 

I am not aware on a group like this in my area. A few friends are

showing an interest in such a group.

 

Usually, if I talk it up a bit and send out email to my personal mailing

list, I can get 10 to 15 people interested in most anything, especially

something health related.

 

So..... form your own group. Three or four will get it started.

 

Wayne

 

 

 

 

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I am also a newbie...I started taking Shaklee a bit ago..and have seen a

differnce..sinc my eating habits suck..I have to take supplements..

 

Do you feel Shaklee is better, or am I wasting my money?

 

Lisa

 

 

 

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Hi angie,

My brother in law consumes flax seed oil on a very consistent basis.

He's got major problems with his joints (bone spurs, etc.) and he

notices a good difference when he takes it.

 

I stay away from any " pain relievers " because they either don't work

for me or make the pain worse. I'm not too worried about the physical

damage they cause in great amounts, though.

 

I found that for tendonitis (which I also have), I feel better after

heat, gentle massage and mild stretching. Taking extra calcium is

good for my aches too.

 

Luci

Gettingwell, " angie360a " <angie360@h...> wrote:

> Hi,

> I've not scanned very many messages, and I hope I've come to the

> right place. I basically am interested in nutrition...I tend to

> believe the more natural we eat, the better... Which means I rarely

> eat fast foods, no junk food (too much of the hydrogenated), only

the

> good kinds of fats (olive oil, canola, occasional butter).

>

> A few questions....Does anyone know specific benefits of flax seed?

>

> Also, I have read that a really low fat diet can contribute to

> tenndonitis (which I have had for several months). Can anyone

> enlighten me on this and are there any benefits of taking cod liver

> oil for the inflammation. I'm currently taking Celebrex for it

(but

> not sure if it's helping greatly)?? Your thoughts would be

> appreciated.

>

> And lastly do any of you belong to a group that is open for

nutrition

> discussion....the good, the bad, the wonderful for your health kind

> of thing.

>

> Angie

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I've been buying nutritional supplements from Swanson, Puritan's Pride, and

Trader Joe's. Trader Joe's prices are excellent, and their products are

good. I always wait for the best sales at Swanson and Puritan's P.

Puritan's Pride, is, until June 5, having an excellent sale on their

products: 70% off!, and if you spend a certain amount, you get free

shipping.

I may be wrong, but Shaklee has extremely high prices.

John P.

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Saturday, May 25, 2002 12:31 PM

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> I am also a newbie...I started taking Shaklee a bit ago..and have seen a

> differnce..sinc my eating habits suck..I have to take supplements..

>

> Do you feel Shaklee is better, or am I wasting my money?

>

> Lisa

>

>

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Evening John,

 

>>Puritan's Pride, is, until June 5, having an excellent sale on their

>products: 70% off!, and if you spend a certain amount, you get free

>shipping.

 

Sounds great..... 70 % .

 

Does Puritans Pride have a web site?

 

Wayne

 

 

 

 

 

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Wayne Fugitt wrote:

 

> Evening John,

>

> >>Puritan's Pride, is, until June 5, having an excellent sale on their

> >products: 70% off!, and if you spend a certain amount, you get free

> >shipping.

>

> Sounds great..... 70 % .

>

> Does Puritans Pride have a web site?

>

> Wayne

 

By typing " puritans pride " in my browser's window, I came to

<www.puritan.com> Puritan's Pride web site, established in 1960. Yes - 70%

off! Assuming that this is not sellling below cost, that represents a huge

markup.

 

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Evening Morton,

 

>>By typing " puritans pride " in my browser's window, I came to

><www.puritan.com> Puritan's Pride web site, established in 1960. Yes - 70%

>off! Assuming that this is not sellling below cost, that represents a huge

>markup.

 

Ok.. thanks. I will take a look.

 

Discounts and markups have always been a bit confusing. I can't even

get the people in my own company to

agree on this type thing.

 

My local health food store gives me 20% off everything I buy. So...

there starting price must be a 100% markup, or maybe 80.

 

The only way I can tell if I am getting a bargain is to compare the

prices with places on the net.

When I do this, I find the prices they are giving me are all within 10% of

the best prices I can find. Plus no shipping and waiting.

 

The best part is that they are 10 minutes away and I get free

consultation. Often they are asking me questions instead of me asking them

questions. Still, it is a social event when I go there. Often I meet

others who are addicted to visiting the health food store once or twice per

week.

 

Wayne

 

 

 

 

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Is this a good company to buy from?

 

Dee

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Saturday, May 25, 2002 4:13 PM

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>

>

> Wayne Fugitt wrote:

>

> > Evening John,

> >

> > >>Puritan's Pride, is, until June 5, having an excellent sale on their

> > >products: 70% off!, and if you spend a certain amount, you get free

> > >shipping.

> >

> > Sounds great..... 70 % .

> >

> > Does Puritans Pride have a web site?

> >

> > Wayne

>

> By typing " puritans pride " in my browser's window, I came to

> <www.puritan.com> Puritan's Pride web site, established in 1960. Yes - 70%

> off! Assuming that this is not sellling below cost, that represents a

huge

> markup.

>

> Morton

>

>

>

>

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Me too, I have to travel at least 30 minutes to get a half way decent hfs but

there is no talk of discount and sometimes you feel that you are causing them

a problem by asking any questions.

 

Marianne

 

In a message dated 26/05/02 06:42:48 GMT Daylight Time,

counterpnt writes:

 

 

> I'd love to have your " local " health food store, in my neighborhood.

>

 

 

 

 

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Yes Wayne:

" Order Online: www.puritan.com

I have to apologize for suggesting that shipping was free above a certain

purchase amount.

I must have had another company in mind. Puritan charges $3.95 for

shipping. I think their prices are generally very low. The current 70% off

sale, expires 6/5/02.

 

But, I prefer getting what I can at Trader Joe's, whose prices are often the

lowest of all, and their quality seems good to me.

 

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Saturday, May 25, 2002 7:16 PM

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> Is this a good company to buy from?

>

> Dee

> -

> " Morton Bodanis " <mortonmb

>

> Saturday, May 25, 2002 4:13 PM

> Re: Re: About Nutrition - I'm New

>

>

> >

> >

> > Wayne Fugitt wrote:

> >

> > > Evening John,

> > >

> > > >>Puritan's Pride, is, until June 5, having an excellent sale on

their

> > > >products: 70% off!, and if you spend a certain amount, you get free

> > > >shipping.

> > >

> > > Sounds great..... 70 % .

> > >

> > > Does Puritans Pride have a web site?

> > >

> > > Wayne

> >

> > By typing " puritans pride " in my browser's window, I came to

> > <www.puritan.com> Puritan's Pride web site, established in 1960. Yes -

70%

> > off! Assuming that this is not sellling below cost, that represents a

> huge

> > markup.

> >

> > Morton

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health

> > and well being.

> >

> > list or archives: Gettingwell

> >

> > ........ Gettingwell-

> > post............. Gettingwell

> > digest form...... Gettingwell-digest

> > individual emails Gettingwell-normal

> > no email......... Gettingwell-nomail

> > moderator ....... Gettingwell-owner

> > ...... Gettingwell-

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I'd love to have your " local " health food store, in my neighborhood.

 

An example of the prices in the current Puritan's catalog. Lysine:

500count, (1000mg tablets), $13.30. Guggulipid: 90count, (1000mg tabs,

containing 25mg natural guggulsterones per tab), $8.10.

If you can find a mail-order source that can beat these prices, please let

me know.

 

The health food stores in my area, price their supplements, way higher than

the internet. The best prices I get at a store are at Trader Joes, which is

not a health food store, but has a small section devoted to supplements. A

good example of their prices: Vitamin C, 250count, 1000mg tabs, with 100mg

natural rose hips, sustained release), $7.99. They're gradually including

more " organic " items in their stock, such as raw, organic pumpkin seeds,

which they sell out almost the day they get them.

I've been buying " quarts " of fresh organic strawberries from them these

days, at $3.29.

If they keep this up, people will start calling them a health food store of

sorts.

John P.

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Saturday, May 25, 2002 5:23 PM

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> Evening Morton,

>

> >>By typing " puritans pride " in my browser's window, I came to

> ><www.puritan.com> Puritan's Pride web site, established in 1960. Yes -

70%

> >off! Assuming that this is not sellling below cost, that represents a

huge

> >markup.

>

> Ok.. thanks. I will take a look.

>

> Discounts and markups have always been a bit confusing. I can't even

> get the people in my own company to

> agree on this type thing.

>

> My local health food store gives me 20% off everything I buy. So...

> there starting price must be a 100% markup, or maybe 80.

>

> The only way I can tell if I am getting a bargain is to compare the

> prices with places on the net.

> When I do this, I find the prices they are giving me are all within 10% of

> the best prices I can find. Plus no shipping and waiting.

>

> The best part is that they are 10 minutes away and I get free

> consultation. Often they are asking me questions instead of me asking

them

> questions. Still, it is a social event when I go there. Often I meet

> others who are addicted to visiting the health food store once or twice

per

> week.

>

> Wayne

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 5/26/02 1:42:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

counterpnt writes:

 

 

> I've been buying " quarts " of fresh organic strawberries from them these

> days, at $3.29.

 

Start your own organic co-op and buy the strawberries and whatever else you

need inexpensively or at least a lot less expensive than at the HFS directly

from the distributor.

Example: I am buying a flat of strawberries this Monday through my co-op for

$18. That is 12 x 1 pint for $18. That is excellent! Wholesale prices... your

$3.29 - unbelievable mark-up. I have been in our co-op for 2 1/2 years. Well

worth it!

 

:-) Gabriela

 

 

 

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You were right, but they changed it. It was free for orders over $40. I

already got an order that way, but they were out of a lot of things, so they

have to re-ship (also free). I hope they don't go broke with this sale, LOL.

 

Starris

 

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> I have to apologize for suggesting that shipping was free above a certain

> purchase amount.

> I must have had another company in mind

 

 

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Wayne Fugitt wrote:

 

> Evening Morton,

>

> >>By typing " puritans pride " in my browser's window, I came to

> ><www.puritan.com> Puritan's Pride web site, established in 1960. Yes - 70%

> >off! Assuming that this is not sellling below cost, that represents a huge

> >markup.

>

> Ok.. thanks. I will take a look.

>

> Discounts and markups have always been a bit confusing. I can't even

> get the people in my own company to agree on this type thing.

 

A discount is what a seller takes off his selling price as an inducement for you

to buy. A mark-up is the profit he adds to his cost before he sells it to you.

 

If a product costs the manufacturer/supplier 30.00 and he marks it up (adds

profit to his cost) by 100%, he is taking all of his cost and doubling it (30.00

+ 30.00 [100% of something is all of the original amount, 50% of something is

1/2 of the original amount]).

 

If an item sells to you for 100.00 and he gives you a 10% discount, 10% of

100.00 is 10.00 and you pay 90.00. If he gives you a 70% discount, which is

70.00 off, you pay 30.00. If you want to know how much to mark it up,

percentage-wise, to get to 100.00: 100% of 30.00 is 30.00, add them together

and you get 60.00; add another 100% of the original amount (30.00) This amount

now becomes 90.00. Add another 33 1/3% and you get 9.99, which when added to the

90.00 gives you 99.99.

 

The mark-up on 30.00 to get to 100.00 is, adding together all the amounts, is

233 1/3%! Not bad at all.

 

To find the total mark-up of an item: Subtract the final selling price from the

original selling price. (100.00 - 30.00 = 70 [the total mark-up, or profit])

Divide the discount of 70.00 by 30.00, the selling price, and multiply that by

100 and you get (233.3333%), the percentage mark-up, or profit in the original

selling price.

 

I hope that I was not being presumptuous in going through this exercise.

 

Morton

 

>

>

> My local health food store gives me 20% off everything I buy. So...

> there starting price must be a 100% markup, or maybe 80.

>

> The only way I can tell if I am getting a bargain is to compare the

> prices with places on the net.

> When I do this, I find the prices they are giving me are all within 10% of

> the best prices I can find. Plus no shipping and waiting.

>

>

>

> Wayne

>

>

 

 

 

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Gabriela

People pay a high price for convenience. Trader Joe's is selling a " quart "

of organic strawberries for $3.29. Whole Foods, a few blocks away, is

selling organic strawberries for $2.59 a pint ($5.18 a quart)! I don't

think you looked at the figure I gave you carefully enough. You're paying

$1.50 a pint; I'm paying, at Trader Joe's, $1.65, hardly an " unbelievable "

markup. Even the Whole Foods price, at $2.59 a pint, is high, but not

unbelievable.

 

As for starting a co-op, where will I find the time to do that? I live Los

Angeles, and have a book/record store that requires every bit of time I

have, and I can't even keep up with the work that needs to be done. There

is a co-op 15 miles! away from my house. The health food store is 2 miles a

way. The 15 miles, is through Los Angeles traffic!

The health food stores do all the work for us, and make everything

conveniently available.

 

What will I and my wife do with a " flat " of strawberries? I buy 2 quarts at

a time, usually, and I can barely finish them in time before they rot. That

means I'd have to co-op with other people to share them. That takes more

time, and can be complicated.

 

Co-ops are a wonderful idea, under some circumstances. But the problem is

" time, " not price.

John P.

 

 

 

 

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Sunday, May 26, 2002 9:31 AM

Re: Re: About Nutrition - I'm New

 

 

> In a message dated 5/26/02 1:42:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> counterpnt writes:

>

>

> > I've been buying " quarts " of fresh organic strawberries from them these

> > days, at $3.29.

>

> Start your own organic co-op and buy the strawberries and whatever else

you

> need inexpensively or at least a lot less expensive than at the HFS

directly

> from the distributor.

> Example: I am buying a flat of strawberries this Monday through my co-op

for

> $18. That is 12 x 1 pint for $18. That is excellent! Wholesale prices...

your

> $3.29 - unbelievable mark-up. I have been in our co-op for 2 1/2 years.

Well

> worth it!

>

> :-) Gabriela

>

>

>

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Wayne Fugitt wrote:

 

> Evening Morton,

>

>

> Discounts and markups have always been a bit confusing. I can't even get

> the people in my own company to

> agree on this type thing.

>

> My local health food store gives me 20% off everything I buy. So...

> there starting price must be a 100% markup, or maybe 80.

>

>

>

> Wayne

 

Hi, Wayne

 

A discount is what a seller takes off his selling price as an inducement for you

to buy. A mark-up is the profit he adds to his cost before he sells it to you.

 

If a product costs the manufacturer/supplier 30.00 and he marks it up (adds

profit to his cost) by 100%, he is taking all of his cost and doubling it (30.00

+ 30.00 [100% of something is all of the original amount, 50% of something is

1/2 of the original amount]).

 

If an item sells to you for 100.00 and he gives you a 10% discount, 10% of

100.00 is 10.00 and you pay 90.00. If he gives you a 70% discount, which is

70.00 off, you pay 30.00. If you want to know how much to mark it up,

percentage-wise, to get to 100.00: 100% of 30.00 is 30.00, add them together

and you get 60.00; add another 100% of the original amount (30.00) This amount

now becomes 90.00. Add another 33 1/3% and you get 9.99, which when added to the

90.00 gives you 99.99.

 

The mark-up on 30.00 to get to 100.00 is, adding together all the amounts, is

233 1/3%! Not bad at all.

 

To find the total mark-up of an item: Subtract the final selling price from the

original selling price. (100.00 - 30.00 = 70 [the total mark-up, or profit])

Divide the discount of 70.00 by 30.00, the selling price, and multiply that by

100 and you get (233.3333%), the percentage mark-up, or profit in the original

selling price.

 

I hope that I was not being presumptuous in going through this exercise.

 

Morton

 

 

> My local health food store gives me 20% off everything I buy. So...

> there starting price must be a 100% markup, or maybe 80.

 

> Wayne

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Hello---I had one major heel problem this past winter and started

taking glucosaimine--any brand off ebay works---plus either Evening

Primrose Oil, or flaxseed oil or omega-3--it has made a world of

difference for myself!!!! I could barely walk on that foot til I took

that stuff--I truly am an alternative health believer!!!! Theo

> work

> for me or make

> I found that for tendonitis (which I also have), I feel better

after

> heat, gentle massage and mild stretching. Taking extra calcium is

> good for my aches too.

>

> Luci

> Gettingwell, " angie360a " <angie360@h...> wrote:

> > Hi,

> > I've not scanned very many messages, and I hope I've come to the

> > right place. I basically am interested in nutrition...I tend to

> > believe the more natural we eat, the better... Which means I

rarely

> > eat fast foods, no junk food (too much of the hydrogenated), only

> the

> > good kinds of fats (olive oil, canola, occasional butter).

> >

> > A few questions....Does anyone know specific benefits of flax

seed?

> >

> > Also, I have read that a really low fat diet can contribute to

> > tenndonitis (which I have had for several months). Can anyone

> > enlighten me on this and are there any benefits of taking cod

liver

> > oil for the inflammation. I'm currently taking Celebrex for it

> (but

> > not sure if it's helping greatly)?? Your thoughts would be

> > appreciated.

> >

> > And lastly do any of you belong to a group that is open for

> nutrition

> > discussion....the good, the bad, the wonderful for your health

kind

> > of thing.

> >

> > Angie

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