Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 I am so pleased with the results I got at the CHD clinic today. I have been off the 'statins' for approx 4 months now (my cholesterol was 10.4, I have never been given the breakdown of LDL & HDL and when I asked today, she showed me the report which did not contain this information) - Around the same time my bp was 170/100 and I have reduced the meds for this by at least half. Today my cholesterol was 8.3 and my bp was 160/82 - this is all down to diet and supplements so I am very pleased with these results. I have to go back in August for another cholesterol test (this time I will make sure that it is a fasting test) and know that the results will show it down even more. It just goes to show that we can do it without massive amounts of meds as most dr's insist. Another couple of adjustments and I think I will be there. Not bad for a chocoholic who is trying very hard to not eat any more chocholate. So all of you keep striving to lower your cholesterol or bp or get off any other meds, it can be done, it may be a long road but you will get to the end and feel so much better for it. I know that I still have a way to go before I am 'helthy' but I also know that I can get there. Marianne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2002 Report Share Posted May 11, 2002 Well done! I am interested to know how you have changed your diet and what supplements you have been using. I too need to help my cholesterol level decrease.. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2002 Report Share Posted May 12, 2002 Hi Sue, I have been taking a lot of supplements because I take for all my health issues. I have stopped using trans fats and only use organic butter or olive oil now. I was paying a mighty sum for 'special' margarines & butters that are supposed to lower your cholesterol and then found out that they are so very bad for you, I would never use them again (benecol and the like). I take, calcium with a & d, magnesium, vit e, blackstrap molasses, CoQ10, garlic, fish oils (omega 3 & 6) and EPO as well as heartdrops. Diet is of course the most important, cut out trans fats and reduce the amount of red meat that eat. I also think that JoAnn has it right in saying eat as much as you can that is organic. We are now 99.5% organic and I know that is helping because we are not getting all those nasty growth hormones and pesticides etc in our food. Good luck you know you can do it naturally. Marianne > Well done! I am interested to know how you have changed your diet and > what supplements you have been using. I too need to help my > cholesterol level decrease.. Sue > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2002 Report Share Posted May 12, 2002 when my cholesterol went up, I went off butter, mayonnaise, egg yolks and only use olive oil - it went wayyyyy down. Bon In a message dated 5/12/2002 7:04:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, alcornsuejim writes: << Hi thanks for the info. I have introduced the garlic and fish oils into my diet already. I found a diet on the net called 'the cabbage soup diet'. I think I will start on that as the soup is one I remember from a cardiac diet. I have been on it once before and managed to lose quite a bit of weight, but it looks healthy enough to get me started into lowering the cholesterol as well. I agree with you about the organic foods. In Gettingwell, marianne2406@a... wrote: > Hi Sue, I have been taking a lot of supplements because I take for all my > health issues. I have stopped using trans fats and only use organic butter > or olive oil now. I was paying a mighty sum for 'special' margarines & > butters that are supposed to lower your cholesterol and then found out that > they are so very bad for you, I would never use them again (benecol and the > like). > > I take, calcium with a & d, magnesium, vit e, blackstrap molasses, CoQ10, > garlic, fish oils (omega 3 & 6) and EPO as well as heartdrops. > > Diet is of course the most important, cut out trans fats and reduce the > amount of red meat that eat. I also think that JoAnn has it right in saying > eat as much as you can that is organic. We are now 99.5% organic and I know > that is helping because we are not getting all those nasty growth hormones > and pesticides etc in our food. > > Good luck you know you can do it naturally. > Marianne > > > > Well done! I am interested to know how you have changed your diet and > > what supplements you have been using. I too need to help my > > cholesterol level decrease.. Sue > > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2002 Report Share Posted May 12, 2002 Hi thanks for the info. I have introduced the garlic and fish oils into my diet already. I found a diet on the net called 'the cabbage soup diet'. I think I will start on that as the soup is one I remember from a cardiac diet. I have been on it once before and managed to lose quite a bit of weight, but it looks healthy enough to get me started into lowering the cholesterol as well. I agree with you about the organic foods. In Gettingwell, marianne2406@a... wrote: > Hi Sue, I have been taking a lot of supplements because I take for all my > health issues. I have stopped using trans fats and only use organic butter > or olive oil now. I was paying a mighty sum for 'special' margarines & > butters that are supposed to lower your cholesterol and then found out that > they are so very bad for you, I would never use them again (benecol and the > like). > > I take, calcium with a & d, magnesium, vit e, blackstrap molasses, CoQ10, > garlic, fish oils (omega 3 & 6) and EPO as well as heartdrops. > > Diet is of course the most important, cut out trans fats and reduce the > amount of red meat that eat. I also think that JoAnn has it right in saying > eat as much as you can that is organic. We are now 99.5% organic and I know > that is helping because we are not getting all those nasty growth hormones > and pesticides etc in our food. > > Good luck you know you can do it naturally. > Marianne > > > > Well done! I am interested to know how you have changed your diet and > > what supplements you have been using. I too need to help my > > cholesterol level decrease.. Sue > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2002 Report Share Posted May 12, 2002 Sue, please be very careful on this cabbage soup diet, it does not contain all the essential nutrients that you need to sustain a healthy lifestyle. The premise that it is a cardiac diet is absolute rubbish. If you have the soup for lunch that is fine, or you could try a few others, JoAnn has a lovely onion soup recipe and I will post a recipe for Fennel & Celery soup later (gotta adapt to US as well) which I know is really tasty - both very good lowering your cholesterol. Eat healthy breakfast and dinner and just have the soup for lunch though, you need to stay healthy to be able to continue the natural way of health. marianne > Hi thanks for the info. I have introduced the garlic and fish oils > into my diet already. I found a diet on the net called 'the cabbage > soup diet'. I think I will start on that as the soup is one I > remember from a cardiac diet. I have been on it once before and > managed to lose quite a bit of weight, but it looks healthy enough to > get me started into lowering the cholesterol as well. I agree with > you about the organic foods. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2002 Report Share Posted May 12, 2002 Hi Bonny, I only have a very little butter, no mayonnaise as I don't eat it anyway but I do have eggs because they contain GOOD cholesterol that we need. I now only use olive oil for everything that I cook. Marianne > when my cholesterol went up, I went off butter, mayonnaise, egg yolks and > only use olive oil - it went wayyyyy down. Bon > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2002 Report Share Posted May 13, 2002 go to www.cat007.com Gettingwell, " kelly713713 " <alcornsuejim@b...> wrote: > Well done! I am interested to know how you have changed your diet and > what supplements you have been using. I too need to help my > cholesterol level decrease.. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2002 Report Share Posted May 13, 2002 Going without it the worst thing that you can do, your body will think it is being starved and store all food as fat (from my friend Robin). It is not a good diet to go on unless as I said, you have the soup for lunch, then that and the recipe that I sent would be good alternate lunches to have. Have you any idea of the essential nutrients your body can lose each and every day - because that is what will happen with the cabbage soup diet if that is all that you eat. I really do think you should consult a doctor (preferably one who is sympathetic to natural healing) and see if this would be harmful to you (sometimes we do need those doctors unfortunately). I would hate for you to cause further problems by doing the wrong thing, I have your welfare at heart here. If you want a healthier diet, you should eat as much or more but better foods - i.e. 10 portions of fruit and veg (raw is best) and really good foods, that will do you far more good than cabbage soup diet (have you thought that you will not want people in the same room as you after day 1, cabbage can do terrible things to you!!LOL) Marianne > My main aim is to look at eating healthier and a little less than > usual, and the soup diet was just one way to make a start at getting > used to 'going without'. I have never been good at diets because I > always change them to suit myself. I will be careful though. The > cardiac diet is one designed for the patients who need surgery, but > need to lose some weight quickly for it. A friend of mine was put on > it years ago. It is a very short term diet. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2002 Report Share Posted May 13, 2002 My main aim is to look at eating healthier and a little less than usual, and the soup diet was just one way to make a start at getting used to 'going without'. I have never been good at diets because I always change them to suit myself. I will be careful though. The cardiac diet is one designed for the patients who need surgery, but need to lose some weight quickly for it. A friend of mine was put on it years ago. It is a very short term diet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2002 Report Share Posted May 13, 2002 What I like about the cabbage soup-diet idea is, that it can help satisfy your appetite with a food that is mostly water. But it's worse than useless, if you don't, " first, " eat ample quantities of low-calorie, highly nutritious, raw plant foods, that provide the essential nutrients for good health. I remember Adelle Davis's ideas, when I first became interested in improving my health. She told her readers to consume so much good food, that you didn't have much of an appetite left for the junk. - <marianne2406 Monday, May 13, 2002 7:17 AM Re: Re: Today's Test Results > Going without it the worst thing that you can do, your body will think it is > being starved and store all food as fat (from my friend Robin). It is not a > good diet to go on unless as I said, you have the soup for lunch, then that > and the recipe that I sent would be good alternate lunches to have. > > Have you any idea of the essential nutrients your body can lose each and > every day - because that is what will happen with the cabbage soup diet if > that is all that you eat. I really do think you should consult a doctor > (preferably one who is sympathetic to natural healing) and see if this would > be harmful to you (sometimes we do need those doctors unfortunately). > > I would hate for you to cause further problems by doing the wrong thing, I > have your welfare at heart here. If you want a healthier diet, you should > eat as much or more but better foods - i.e. 10 portions of fruit and veg (raw > is best) and really good foods, that will do you far more good than cabbage > soup diet (have you thought that you will not want people in the same room as > you after day 1, cabbage can do terrible things to you!!LOL) > > Marianne > > > > My main aim is to look at eating healthier and a little less than > > usual, and the soup diet was just one way to make a start at getting > > used to 'going without'. I have never been good at diets because I > > always change them to suit myself. I will be careful though. The > > cardiac diet is one designed for the patients who need surgery, but > > need to lose some weight quickly for it. A friend of mine was put on > > it years ago. It is a very short term diet. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2002 Report Share Posted May 14, 2002 What a very wise lady she was then. I just know that there have been cases of people becoming sick because they have followed that cabbage soup diet, I would not feel right if I didn't point out the pitfalls of relying on this soup for one's nutritional wellbeing. Marianne > What I like about the cabbage soup-diet idea is, that it can help satisfy > your appetite with a food that is mostly water. But it's worse than > useless, if you don't, " first, " eat ample quantities of low-calorie, highly > nutritious, raw plant foods, that provide the essential nutrients for good > health. > I remember Adelle Davis's ideas, when I first became interested in > improving > my health. She told her readers to consume so much good food, that you > didn't have much of an appetite left for the junk. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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