Getting off of valium and remeron an a/d

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Hi

Just want to know if there is anything that helps

with withdrarwl from valium, Am down to 2.5mgs valium.

Also am taking an a/d called remeron. Once I am off

the valium want to get off the a/d also. I wish I

hadn't taken the a/d but I don't think it would be

wise to try and stop both at the same time.

My Dr has contacted an Orthomolecular DR in canada

thatt's where I live. He has suggested 500mgs no flush

niasin 3 times a day and vit c 1000mgs 3 times a day

and magnesium 200mgs a day and vit b6 and 400 iu vit e

and 400micrograms seleneum a day. Also a higher

protein diet. I have started to take some of these

things slowly increasing dose and adding one in at a

time.

I have tryed a lot of things I am wondreing if this

is worth it?

Also wondering about L-theanine its suppose to be

calming. Thanks Kathy.

 

 

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Gettingwell, j b <jbktt66> wrote:

> Hi

> Just want to know if there is anything that helps

> with withdrarwl from valium, Am down to 2.5mgs valium.

> Also am taking an a/d called remeron.

 

I don't know if this will help but taking Taurine, an

amino acids gets rid of my anxiety. I was on an antidepressant

for some years for panic and depression. I would take 1

taurine tablet at night before bed, it is supposed to help

you sleep but I didn't notice a help with that. You can

take one during the day too.

 

I then tried taking Kava exctract to help me to sleep.

This worked. I took it for 2 months and now I dont need

it anymore. It seems to have corrected my sleep cycle.

I now get sleepy normally without help. Kava should only

be used short term. Lately there has been information

about it increasng enzyme levels which isn't good. Persons

very sensitive to the herb had developed liver damage.

 

http://www.thewayup.com/

this link sells different amino acids but they have a good

bit of information there on each one. I bought a formula

to help control my depression and although I haven't had

any big emotional drops I don't feel a big lift either.

So I can't comment on if the mixed formulas are helpful or

not. Click on the amino acid link and a list of them

will come up.

 

http://www.iwr.com/becalmd/ Someone on another lists swears

by this product BeCalmd, for depression. I never tried it.

 

http://www.mts.net/~baumel/depression.html

Has numerous books on the subject. This will be my next

visit because the various kinds of information there. I hope

it helps.

 

Liz D.

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Dear Kathy,

 

I believe that the vitamin C is the main ingredient for detoxicing

the body whatever toxic substance is involved. It grabs any toxin or

invading microbe for that matter, binds to it and takes it out of the

body.

 

These drugs build up in body tissue, so it may take some time to

clear. How long and at what dosage and how effecient your body was at

breaking down and detoxing itself will determain how much build up

you have.

 

The toxic effects also cause damage that becomes more apperent as the

drugs stop masking the damage.

 

For rehealing use lots of healing nutrients which would include ALL

of the vitamins, minerals, aminos etc.

 

These drugs cause havoc with most of the systems of the body,

adrenal, heart, thyriod,reproductive, etc, almost al of the systems.

 

Here is a website of Dr. Breggin who has been fighting against these

terrible drugs for many years. http://www.breggin.com/

 

 

We welcome your membership here and want you to stay here also but,

 

There are also a couple of good groups that deal specifically with

the problems of withdrawal problems associate with these type drugs.

These are good support and information centers with others having the

same difficulties.

 

 

One is about the benzodiazepine type tranquilizers at:

 

benzo/

 

Another is at:

 

prozactruth/

 

Yes, I know that you didn't say prozac but the ssri's and other ad's

typically have the same problems associated with their use.

 

Please read Dr. Peter Breggin's site and he willshow you that they

are all poisons with the same gross result.

 

If you experience insomnia, it's probably because of the thyroid,

peneal glad disturbance caused by these drugs. You can try 5-htp

tryptophan and amino acid drinks to help. The gaba receptors that

have been utilized by the valium will be quite sensitive since using

these drugs causes the person to produce much less gaba than normal.

You might want to supplement gaba till your body starts producing

sufficient quatities of it's own again.

 

The public at large is told that these are very mild benign medicines

that are non or only mildly addictive (they changed the term to

discontinuence syndrom) but in reality they are a more difficult foe

than heroin, cocaine, alcohol, and others.

 

Good luck,

Frank

 

 

 

 

Gettingwell, j b <jbktt66> wrote:

> Hi

> Just want to know if there is anything that helps

> with withdrarwl from valium, Am down to 2.5mgs valium.

> Also am taking an a/d called remeron. Once I am off

> the valium want to get off the a/d also. I wish I

> hadn't taken the a/d but I don't think it would be

> wise to try and stop both at the same time.

> My Dr has contacted an Orthomolecular DR in canada

> thatt's where I live. He has suggested 500mgs no flush

> niasin 3 times a day and vit c 1000mgs 3 times a day

> and magnesium 200mgs a day and vit b6 and 400 iu vit e

> and 400micrograms seleneum a day. Also a higher

> protein diet. I have started to take some of these

> things slowly increasing dose and adding one in at a

> time.

> I have tryed a lot of things I am wondreing if this

> is worth it?

> Also wondering about L-theanine its suppose to be

> calming. Thanks Kathy.

>

>

>

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---SamE is very helpful!!

 

In Gettingwell, j b <jbktt66> wrote:

> Hi

> Just want to know if there is anything that helps

> with withdrarwl from valium, Am down to 2.5mgs valium.

> Also am taking an a/d called remeron. Once I am off

> the valium want to get off the a/d also. I wish I

> hadn't taken the a/d but I don't think it would be

> wise to try and stop both at the same time.

> My Dr has contacted an Orthomolecular DR in canada

> thatt's where I live. He has suggested 500mgs no flush

> niasin 3 times a day and vit c 1000mgs 3 times a day

> and magnesium 200mgs a day and vit b6 and 400 iu vit e

> and 400micrograms seleneum a day. Also a higher

> protein diet. I have started to take some of these

> things slowly increasing dose and adding one in at a

> time.

> I have tryed a lot of things I am wondreing if this

> is worth it?

> Also wondering about L-theanine its suppose to be

> calming. Thanks Kathy.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

---Kathy,

It is my understanding valium has minimum after-effects. Valium

was not problematic although...now Prozac is quite another story.

There are numerous lingering side effects after one stops.

That was my husbands experience anyway.

SamE is an excellent substitute for the SSRIs...better than St.

John's Wort in my opinion and it can be obtained at most health food

stores.

I would suggest taking at least 400 mgs of a good form of magnesium

twice daily with at least 400 IU of E morning and night. Optimum

daily Intakes are very beneficial at this time we've found. He took

numerous trace minerals in addition to Evening Primrose oil softgels

for recovery.

Diet is very beneficial also. it is good to eliminate all processed,

devitalized foodstuffs, replacing them with good organic dairy, meat

and eggs...raw vegetables and fruits with high fiber content.

 

JoAnn Guest

joguest

Friendsforhealthnaturally

http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html

 

In Gettingwell, " mrsjoguest " <joguest@m...> wrote:

> ---SamE is very helpful!!

>

> In Gettingwell, j b <jbktt66> wrote:

> > Hi

> > Just want to know if there is anything that helps

> > with withdrarwl from valium, Am down to 2.5mgs valium.

> > Also am taking an a/d called remeron. Once I am off

> > the valium want to get off the a/d also. I wish I

> > hadn't taken the a/d but I don't think it would be

> > wise to try and stop both at the same time.

> > My Dr has contacted an Orthomolecular DR in canada

> > thatt's where I live. He has suggested 500mgs no flush

> > niasin 3 times a day and vit c 1000mgs 3 times a day

> > and magnesium 200mgs a day and vit b6 and 400 iu vit e

> > and 400micrograms seleneum a day. Also a higher

> > protein diet. I have started to take some of these

> > things slowly increasing dose and adding one in at a

> > time.

> > I have tryed a lot of things I am wondreing if this

> > is worth it?

> > Also wondering about L-theanine its suppose to be

> > calming. Thanks Kathy.

> >

> >

> >

>

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>

> > Games, Movies, Music & Sports! http://entertainment..ca

[Guest guest]

Hi JoAnn,

 

The common thinking on this drug has been it pretty benign. But that

hasn't really been the case. It's very very addictive but isn't

usually associated with the symptoms until much later.

 

Some people have major problems with the withdrawal lasting years.

 

 

You should go to this site to see what some people have been trying

to get out to the public on the horrors of benzodiazepine type drugs.

 

In England the government sent a directive to doctors in the mid

1980's stating that they should be perscribed for a maximum of 4

weeks only due to their highly addictive properties.

 

it is at: http://www.benzo.org.uk You wont believe what valium (and

about 40 others in this family) is really like.

 

Everyone should read about this even if they are not taking any of

this type medication. Someone in your family or that you know is

taking something similar.

 

regards,

Frank

 

 

 

Gettingwell, " mrsjoguest " <joguest@m...> wrote:

> ---Kathy,

> It is my understanding valium has minimum after-effects. Valium

> was not problematic although...now Prozac is quite another story.

> There are numerous lingering side effects after one stops.

> That was my husbands experience anyway.

> SamE is an excellent substitute for the SSRIs...better than St.

> John's Wort in my opinion and it can be obtained at most health

food

> stores.

> I would suggest taking at least 400 mgs of a good form of

magnesium

> twice daily with at least 400 IU of E morning and night. Optimum

> daily Intakes are very beneficial at this time we've found. He took

> numerous trace minerals in addition to Evening Primrose oil softgels

> for recovery.

> Diet is very beneficial also. it is good to eliminate all

processed,

> devitalized foodstuffs, replacing them with good organic dairy,

meat

> and eggs...raw vegetables and fruits with high fiber content.

>

> JoAnn Guest

> joguest@m...

> Friendsforhealthnaturally

> http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html

>

> In Gettingwell, " mrsjoguest " <joguest@m...> wrote:

> > ---SamE is very helpful!!

> >

> > In Gettingwell, j b <jbktt66> wrote:

> > > Hi

> > > Just want to know if there is anything that helps

> > > with withdrarwl from valium, Am down to 2.5mgs valium.

> > > Also am taking an a/d called remeron. Once I am off

> > > the valium want to get off the a/d also. I wish I

> > > hadn't taken the a/d but I don't think it would be

> > > wise to try and stop both at the same time.

> > > My Dr has contacted an Orthomolecular DR in canada

> > > thatt's where I live. He has suggested 500mgs no flush

> > > niasin 3 times a day and vit c 1000mgs 3 times a day

> > > and magnesium 200mgs a day and vit b6 and 400 iu vit e

> > > and 400micrograms seleneum a day. Also a higher

> > > protein diet. I have started to take some of these

> > > things slowly increasing dose and adding one in at a

> > > time.

> > > I have tryed a lot of things I am wondreing if this

> > > is worth it?

> > > Also wondering about L-theanine its suppose to be

> > > calming. Thanks Kathy.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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> >

> > > Games, Movies, Music & Sports! http://entertainment..ca

[Guest guest]

Hi Frank,

 

I have seen alot of posts lately that say taking

supplements while in w/d can make things worse, I

wrote to you a while back about some of the things I

am taking, I don't want to keep taking these things if

it can make it worse. I am so unsure about everything

these days that I don't e=mail anyone except for one

lady I trust. You seem like you have common sense and

have reseached some of this stuff.

 

I have read some of your posts and am wondering what y

you think about taking vit c 1000mgs 2-3 times a day

and niacin 250mgs 3 times a day and other things that

I mentioned before if you don't remember I can give

you a list. You were on benzos and an a/d before

right?

I am down to 1.5mgs valium and will cut again on

sunday have not been doing well at all and am

wondering if it could be the supplements or just the

w/d now that I am so low on the valium.

You wrote to me and said you thought the vit c was

goog I believe but not much else. A othomolecular Dr

recommended these things to help w/d.

I had a very negative post from a fellow named grady

zero, please do not send anything negative I am not

well and can not deal with that. I just don't want to

make things worse by taking these things. Oh another

thing dr suggested was 20mgs of folic acid 2 times a

day I only took 5mgs once a day for 2 days and am not

sure about taking it again.

Thank you please email me privately. As soon as

possible . I have tryed to reserach some of this

things my self but don't know where to go.

 

Thank-you Kathy.

--- califpacific <califpacific wrote:

> Dear Kathy,

>

> I believe that the vitamin C is the main ingredient

> for detoxicing

> the body whatever toxic substance is involved. It

> grabs any toxin or

> invading microbe for that matter, binds to it and

> takes it out of the

> body.

>

> These drugs build up in body tissue, so it may take

> some time to

> clear. How long and at what dosage and how effecient

> your body was at

> breaking down and detoxing itself will determain how

> much build up

> you have.

>

> The toxic effects also cause damage that becomes

> more apperent as the

> drugs stop masking the damage.

>

> For rehealing use lots of healing nutrients which

> would include ALL

> of the vitamins, minerals, aminos etc.

>

> These drugs cause havoc with most of the systems of

> the body,

> adrenal, heart, thyriod,reproductive, etc, almost al

> of the systems.

>

> Here is a website of Dr. Breggin who has been

> fighting against these

> terrible drugs for many years.

> http://www.breggin.com/

>

>

> We welcome your membership here and want you to stay

> here also but,

>

> There are also a couple of good groups that deal

> specifically with

> the problems of withdrawal problems associate with

> these type drugs.

> These are good support and information centers with

> others having the

> same difficulties.

>

>

> One is about the benzodiazepine type tranquilizers

> at:

>

> benzo/

>

> Another is at:

>

> prozactruth/

>

> Yes, I know that you didn't say prozac but the

> ssri's and other ad's

> typically have the same problems associated with

> their use.

>

> Please read Dr. Peter Breggin's site and he willshow

> you that they

> are all poisons with the same gross result.

>

> If you experience insomnia, it's probably because of

> the thyroid,

> peneal glad disturbance caused by these drugs. You

> can try 5-htp

> tryptophan and amino acid drinks to help. The gaba

> receptors that

> have been utilized by the valium will be quite

> sensitive since using

> these drugs causes the person to produce much less

> gaba than normal.

> You might want to supplement gaba till your body

> starts producing

> sufficient quatities of it's own again.

>

> The public at large is told that these are very mild

> benign medicines

> that are non or only mildly addictive (they changed

> the term to

> discontinuence syndrom) but in reality they are a

> more difficult foe

> than heroin, cocaine, alcohol, and others.

>

> Good luck,

> Frank

>

>

>

>

> Gettingwell, j b <jbktt66> wrote:

> > Hi

> > Just want to know if there is anything that helps

> > with withdrarwl from valium, Am down to 2.5mgs

> valium.

> > Also am taking an a/d called remeron. Once I am

> off

> > the valium want to get off the a/d also. I wish I

> > hadn't taken the a/d but I don't think it would be

> > wise to try and stop both at the same time.

> > My Dr has contacted an Orthomolecular DR in

> canada

> > thatt's where I live. He has suggested 500mgs no

> flush

> > niasin 3 times a day and vit c 1000mgs 3 times a

> day

> > and magnesium 200mgs a day and vit b6 and 400 iu

> vit e

> > and 400micrograms seleneum a day. Also a higher

> > protein diet. I have started to take some of these

> > things slowly increasing dose and adding one in at

> a

> > time.

> > I have tryed a lot of things I am wondreing if

> this

> > is worth it?

> > Also wondering about L-theanine its suppose to be

> > calming. Thanks Kathy.

> >

> >

> >

>

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