Guest guest Posted May 3, 2002 Report Share Posted May 3, 2002 Hello You've touched on a subject I'm interested in and still haven't found any solutions to my dilemna. As far as bottled water goes - I've heard the plastic container the water is contained in can leach out poisons. Distilling isn't an option because it takes out EVERYTHING - bad stuff and minerals. So I am now looking into reverse osmosis. Also I in my first post I had asked for suggestions on what can be used to increase energy levels. I don't exercise and I don't eat what I should which I'm sure doesn't help but there's got to be something out there that can help. I've been reading about enzymes so I purchased a bottle of plant enzyme capsules. I don't know if it's psychological but it does seem to be helping. marianne2406 wrote: In a message dated 30/04/02 16:10:54 GMT Daylight Time, joguest writes: > I have been drinking bottled water for over five years now and > without a problem. You have convinced me again and I yesterday went out and purchased a 5 litre bottle of water - I have not had a chance to research any of them but I will do and will then go with the best that I can find. I did not buy the cheapest one but the one I 'thought' would be good. Marianne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2002 Report Share Posted May 3, 2002 - " Lisa Clancy " <lisaselixir Friday, May 03, 2002 10:49 AM Drinking water / Energy > > Hello > You've touched on a subject I'm interested in and still haven't found any solutions to my dilemna. As far as bottled water goes - I've heard the plastic container the water is contained in can leach out poisons. Distilling isn't an option because it takes out EVERYTHING - bad stuff and minerals. So I am now looking into reverse osmosis. Also I in my first post I had asked for suggestions on what can be used to increase energy levels. I don't exercise and I don't eat what I should which I'm sure doesn't help but there's got to be something out there that can help. I've been reading about enzymes so I purchased a bottle of plant enzyme capsules. I don't know if it's psychological but it does seem to be helping. For a good number of years I used to worry about not getting enough minerals if I drank R-O water or distilled water. I also worried about leaching minerals out of my system with distilled water. Below is a post I made to Holistic list at the time I changed my mind. Water (even the most mineralized) contains very little in the way of minerals. We get minerals from the food we eat. Water (any water) does not supply any significant amount of needed minerals. So, I no longer worry about not getting enough of any mineral because of drinking distilled or R-O water. Alobar +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ - " Alobar Greywalker " <alobar " Holistic List " <holistic-l Sunday, January 28, 2001 9:37 PM [holistic-l] distilled water > I have long been of the opinion that distilled water is not > as healthy for one as spring water because of thirsty water molecules > leeching out minerals. But Jonas's reiterations have caused me to > think things thru. Not scientific evidence by any means, but > patterned after the Gedanken Experiments (thought experiments) > Einstein & friends used to do about sub atomic particles when they > had no way to perform the actual experiments. > > In an over-simplistic ( & in-accurate) way, I had been > thinking about pouring pure water directly into my bloodstream & > picturing the thirsty molecules grabbing needed nutrients out of my > blood. I should have known better. But the reality is not so nice > to contemplate so I blocked it out. In reality, the water goes in > my gullet & mixes with whatever is in my stomach. Most water stays > in alimentary canal till the very end where water is absorbed by body > from fecal glop. So image of pure spring water pouring into my > blood is replaced by my body absorbing water from cesspool. > Thinking about this I come to 2 conclusions: > > 1. Any water in gut is not thirsty. Molecules are fully surrounded > by many sorts of chemicals they can latch onto. So that which was > once distilled water is no more thirsty than any other kind of water > inside gut. > > 2. Since the body is absorbing water from cesspool of lower gut, the > body must be pretty darn selective in what it takes in (otherwise we > would all be dead!) so no matter whether water comes from a still or > limestone earth -- it becomes same as distilled after it is > transported to blood via osmosis. This indicates to me that *all* > water freshly transported to the blood is equally thirsty. So no > penalty for drinking distilled water. > > Alobar > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2002 Report Share Posted May 3, 2002 Distillation remains the best way to purify water. The minerals in water, are essentially useless, and unabsorbable by the body. Vegetables, fruit, nuts, seeds, etc., will provide all the " organic " minerals you need. - " Alobar " <alobar Friday, May 03, 2002 12:38 PM Re: Drinking water / Energy > > - > " Lisa Clancy " <lisaselixir > > Friday, May 03, 2002 10:49 AM > Drinking water / Energy > > > > > > Hello > > You've touched on a subject I'm interested in and still haven't found any > solutions to my dilemna. As far as bottled water goes - I've heard the > plastic container the water is contained in can leach out poisons. > Distilling isn't an option because it takes out EVERYTHING - bad stuff and > minerals. So I am now looking into reverse osmosis. Also I in my first > post I had asked for suggestions on what can be used to increase energy > levels. I don't exercise and I don't eat what I should which I'm sure > doesn't help but there's got to be something out there that can help. I've > been reading about enzymes so I purchased a bottle of plant enzyme capsules. > I don't know if it's psychological but it does seem to be helping. > > For a good number of years I used to worry about not getting enough > minerals if I drank R-O water or distilled water. I also worried about > leaching minerals out of my system with distilled water. Below is a post I > made to Holistic list at the time I changed my mind. > > Water (even the most mineralized) contains very little in the way of > minerals. We get minerals from the food we eat. Water (any water) does > not supply any significant amount of needed minerals. So, I no longer > worry about not getting enough of any mineral because of drinking distilled > or R-O water. > > Alobar > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > - > " Alobar Greywalker " <alobar > " Holistic List " <holistic-l > Sunday, January 28, 2001 9:37 PM > [holistic-l] distilled water > > > > I have long been of the opinion that distilled water is not > > as healthy for one as spring water because of thirsty water molecules > > leeching out minerals. But Jonas's reiterations have caused me to > > think things thru. Not scientific evidence by any means, but > > patterned after the Gedanken Experiments (thought experiments) > > Einstein & friends used to do about sub atomic particles when they > > had no way to perform the actual experiments. > > > > In an over-simplistic ( & in-accurate) way, I had been > > thinking about pouring pure water directly into my bloodstream & > > picturing the thirsty molecules grabbing needed nutrients out of my > > blood. I should have known better. But the reality is not so nice > > to contemplate so I blocked it out. In reality, the water goes in > > my gullet & mixes with whatever is in my stomach. Most water stays > > in alimentary canal till the very end where water is absorbed by body > > from fecal glop. So image of pure spring water pouring into my > > blood is replaced by my body absorbing water from cesspool. > > Thinking about this I come to 2 conclusions: > > > > 1. Any water in gut is not thirsty. Molecules are fully surrounded > > by many sorts of chemicals they can latch onto. So that which was > > once distilled water is no more thirsty than any other kind of water > > inside gut. > > > > 2. Since the body is absorbing water from cesspool of lower gut, the > > body must be pretty darn selective in what it takes in (otherwise we > > would all be dead!) so no matter whether water comes from a still or > > limestone earth -- it becomes same as distilled after it is > > transported to blood via osmosis. This indicates to me that *all* > > water freshly transported to the blood is equally thirsty. So no > > penalty for drinking distilled water. > > > > Alobar > > > > > > > > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > and well being. > > : Gettingwell- > post: Gettingwell > digest form: Gettingwell-digest > delivery normal: Gettingwell-normal > no email: Gettingwell-nomail > moderator: Gettingwell-owner > > list & archives: Gettingwell > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2002 Report Share Posted May 3, 2002 not only that the minerals added by companies to water are BAD for you > Distillation remains the best way to purify water. The minerals in water, > are essentially useless, and unabsorbable by the body. Vegetables, fruit, > nuts, seeds, etc., will provide all the " organic " minerals you need. > - > " Alobar " <alobar > > Friday, May 03, 2002 12:38 PM > Re: Drinking water / Energy > > > > > > - > > " Lisa Clancy " <lisaselixir > > > > Friday, May 03, 2002 10:49 AM > > Drinking water / Energy > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > You've touched on a subject I'm interested in and still haven't found > any > > solutions to my dilemna. As far as bottled water goes - I've heard the > > plastic container the water is contained in can leach out poisons. > > Distilling isn't an option because it takes out EVERYTHING - bad stuff and > > minerals. So I am now looking into reverse osmosis. Also I in my first > > post I had asked for suggestions on what can be used to increase energy > > levels. I don't exercise and I don't eat what I should which I'm sure > > doesn't help but there's got to be something out there that can help. > I've > > been reading about enzymes so I purchased a bottle of plant enzyme > capsules. > > I don't know if it's psychological but it does seem to be helping. > > > > For a good number of years I used to worry about not getting > enough > > minerals if I drank R-O water or distilled water. I also worried about > > leaching minerals out of my system with distilled water. Below is a post > I > > made to Holistic list at the time I changed my mind. > > > > Water (even the most mineralized) contains very little in the way > of > > minerals. We get minerals from the food we eat. Water (any water) does > > not supply any significant amount of needed minerals. So, I no longer > > worry about not getting enough of any mineral because of drinking > distilled > > or R-O water. > > > > Alobar > > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > - > > " Alobar Greywalker " <alobar > > " Holistic List " <holistic-l > > Sunday, January 28, 2001 9:37 PM > > [holistic-l] distilled water > > > > > > > I have long been of the opinion that distilled water is not > > > as healthy for one as spring water because of thirsty water molecules > > > leeching out minerals. But Jonas's reiterations have caused me to > > > think things thru. Not scientific evidence by any means, but > > > patterned after the Gedanken Experiments (thought experiments) > > > Einstein & friends used to do about sub atomic particles when they > > > had no way to perform the actual experiments. > > > > > > In an over-simplistic ( & in-accurate) way, I had been > > > thinking about pouring pure water directly into my bloodstream & > > > picturing the thirsty molecules grabbing needed nutrients out of my > > > blood. I should have known better. But the reality is not so nice > > > to contemplate so I blocked it out. In reality, the water goes in > > > my gullet & mixes with whatever is in my stomach. Most water stays > > > in alimentary canal till the very end where water is absorbed by body > > > from fecal glop. So image of pure spring water pouring into my > > > blood is replaced by my body absorbing water from cesspool. > > > Thinking about this I come to 2 conclusions: > > > > > > 1. Any water in gut is not thirsty. Molecules are fully surrounded > > > by many sorts of chemicals they can latch onto. So that which was > > > once distilled water is no more thirsty than any other kind of water > > > inside gut. > > > > > > 2. Since the body is absorbing water from cesspool of lower gut, the > > > body must be pretty darn selective in what it takes in (otherwise we > > > would all be dead!) so no matter whether water comes from a still or > > > limestone earth -- it becomes same as distilled after it is > > > transported to blood via osmosis. This indicates to me that *all* > > > water freshly transported to the blood is equally thirsty. So no > > > penalty for drinking distilled water. > > > > > > Alobar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > > and well being. > > > > : Gettingwell- > > post: Gettingwell > > digest form: Gettingwell-digest > > delivery normal: Gettingwell-normal > > no email: Gettingwell-nomail > > moderator: Gettingwell-owner > > > > list & archives: Gettingwell > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2002 Report Share Posted May 5, 2002 If you don't excercise, then why do you need more energy? Excercise alone will increase your energy level exponentially. And if you don't eat - food is the fuel of your body! - properly, well................ Get everything out of a pill because you don't want to take responsiblity for yourself? There are a lot of pharmaceutical companies who would love to meet you. Just what do you think that enzymes, plant or otherwise, are supposed to do? Basically, enzymes, substances produced by your own body, help to digest food, but if you don't eat.............. Morton Lisa Clancy wrote: > Hello > ....................... Also I in my first post I had asked for suggestions on what can be used to increase energy levels. I don't exercise and I don't eat what I should which I'm sure doesn't help but there's got to be something out there that can help. I've been reading about enzymes so I purchased a bottle of plant enzyme capsules. I don't know if it's psychological but it does seem to be helping...................... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2002 Report Share Posted May 5, 2002 Hi, I know what you mean by not having any energy (I use to tell people that I was tired of being tired!) I found out that I have allergies (food and environmental) which causes me to be tired all the time; I never realized that I had allergies because my symptoms were mainly fatigue, cravings for the food I was allergic to, and headaches (a couple a times a week). Changing my eating habits has been an up-hill battle - I crave the foods I am allergic to (corn, dairy, and yeast -- Corn is in almost all processed food so that means I also have to learn how to cook.) As far as the environmental allergies (dog, cat, dust, ragweed, grass, trees, etc...) I am taking shots and making other changes in my home (getting rid of ALL carpets helped tremendously.) Just as side note to other people, I use to repeatedly try to get " into " shape. Unfortunately, it never worked. When I exercised I NEVER increased my energy level and I always believed that when people said exercise gave you more energy it was just a bunch of propaganda! I didn't realize that my environment and the food I ate, was making me tired and sick all the time. I plan to start exercising once I gain more control over my allergies. I don't know if your lack of energy is from allergies or something else, but I have learned one thing - you can try everything that works for everyone else, but if it doesn't fix YOUR basic problem, it won't work. Good luck on trying to increase your energy levels! > If you don't excercise, then why do you need more energy? Excercise alone > will increase your energy level exponentially. And if you don't eat - food > is the fuel of your body! - properly, well................ Get everything > out of a pill because you don't want to take responsiblity for yourself? > There are a lot of pharmaceutical companies who would love to meet you. > Just what do you think that enzymes, plant or otherwise, are supposed to > do? Basically, enzymes, substances produced by your own body, help to > digest food, but if you don't eat.............. > Morton > > Lisa Clancy wrote: > > > Hello > > ....................... Also I in my first post I had asked for > suggestions on what can be used to increase energy levels. I don't > exercise and I don't eat what I should which I'm sure doesn't help but > there's got to be something out there that can help. I've been reading > about enzymes so I purchased a bottle of plant enzyme capsules. I don't > know if it's psychological but it does seem to be > helping...................... > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2002 Report Share Posted May 6, 2002 --- Here's an easy way to spot plastic containers that contain chlorine. Look at the bottom inside the recycle arrows and it you see the number 3 or a V. Just remember that it's the bleaching process with chlorine that creates dioxin!> You've touched on a subject I'm interested in and still haven't found any solutions to my dilemna. As far as bottled water goes - I've heard the plastic container the water is contained in can leach out > joguest@m... writes: > > I have been drinking bottled water for over five years now and > > without a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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