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Hi,

 

I just tested positive for H Pylori. I also have in the past had a stool

anaylysis with a naturaopath that showed bacterial overgrowth and no IgA .

Trouble is my primary care knows nothing about stool tests and he is

recommending a triple drug treatment and an acid lowering medication. I am

afraid that treating one in isolation of others may cause me to fix one

problem and worsen others.

 

Can anyone offer any suggestions? Has anyone had experience with this

before? Also, does anyone know of a good digestive problems discussion group?

 

Thanks,

Slvr

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In a message dated 4/19/02 10:22:32 AM GMT Daylight Time, slvrmoon2

writes:

 

 

> I just tested positive for H Pylori. I also have in the past had a stool

> anaylysis with a naturaopath that showed bacterial overgrowth and no IgA .

>

> Trouble is my primary care knows nothing about stool tests and he is

> recommending a triple drug treatment and an acid lowering medication. I am

>

> afraid that treating one in isolation of others may cause me to fix one

> problem and worsen others.

>

> Can anyone offer any suggestions?

 

Hi Slvr

 

Whilst I never had the tests for H Pylori, I had permanent indigestion over

more than 30 years. Almost any food would give me indigestion (heartburn),

even water.

 

I had pretty much given up until I read about propolis and chlorella. This

was back in 1997. I took both at the same time in quite high doses and within

2 weeks I had got rid of 99% of indigestion and it has never come back.

 

Hope this may be of some help.

 

Doug

 

 

 

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Gettingwell, slvrmoon2@a... wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I just tested positive for H Pylori. I also have in the past had

a stool

> anaylysis with a naturaopath that showed bacterial overgrowth and

no IgA .

> Trouble is my primary care knows nothing about stool tests and he

is

> recommending a triple drug treatment and an acid lowering

medication. I am

> afraid that treating one in isolation of others may cause me to fix

one

> problem and worsen others.

>

> Can anyone offer any suggestions?

 

 

Natural Rx for Stomach Pain-Relief for H.pylori

JoAnn Guest

May 01, 2002 09:09 PDT

 

Natural Rx for Stomach Pain

 

In the stomach, muscular contractions thoroughly mix foods with

hydrochloric acid. Stomach acid-powerful enough to strip paint-is a

vital part of good digestion. A thick mucous layer protects the

stomach

walls from harm as the acid kills bacteria and parasites and frees up

minerals and the B vitamins so that they can be absorbed in the small

intestine. If sufficient stomach acid isn't produced, digestion

suffers.

The passage of food out of the stomach into the small intestine is

delayed, which can lead to heartburn as the stomach pushes food mixed

with acid back into the esophagus. Burning is caused by acid coming

in

contact with the lining of the esophagus, which isn't protected by a

mucous layer like the stomach is.

 

Before You " Take Two for Relief of Stomach Pain, " Read on

 

Contrary to what the huge drug companies that make antacids and H2

blocker drugs say, excessive acid production is almost never the

reason

for heartburn, acid digestion or ulcers. In fact, it is now estimated

that up to one-third of all bleeding ulcers are caused by taking

NSAID

drugs such as aspirin and ibuprofen. Antacids and H2 blockers

alleviate

symptoms for a short while by buffering acid and decreasing acid

secretion, but can actually aggravate the underlying problem; too

little

acid in the stomach. With chronic use of these medications, digestion

is

compromised and decreased absorption of some vitamins and minerals

can

result.

Once the food finally makes its way into the intestines, it isn't

broken

down enough to be properly absorbed.

A few years ago, if you asked your physician what causes ulcers,

he

or she would promptly reply that too much stomach acid was to blame.

Now

we know that a spiral-shaped bacteria called Helicobacter pylori (H.

pylori for short) is the primary culprit. It suppresses acid

production

and creates holes in the stomach's protective mucous layer, allowing

acid to seep through and burn holes in the delicate tissue

underneath.

An H. pylori infection can also cause symptoms of indigestion and

heartburn.

 

Natural Alternatives to Ulcer Drugs

 

The bacteria H.pylori is found in 90 percent of duodenal ulcer and 70

percent of stomach ulcer patients. This bacteria increases your risk

of

insufficient acid secretion (atrophic gastritis), ulcer and stomach

cancer. Your doctor can give you a helicobacter pylori IgG antibody

blood test to see if this nasty little bacteria is at the root of

your

problem. If it is, you'll be put on a course of antibiotics and a

bismuth preparation (you know it as Pepto-Bismol) for a week. This is

one instance in which conventional medicines may be your best bet.

Quick

eradication of H.pylori is important for healing of ulcers. There are

some herbal remedies you can try first, however, if you want to avoid

antibiotics.

 

Licorice extract (deglycyrrhizinated licorice or DGL) is a wonderful

herbal healing aid for ulcers. It increases the production of

protective

mucus in the stomach. Use 300 mg four to six times a day. Unripe

bananas

also has anti-ulcer effects, as do the herbs slippery elm (take 200

mg

four to six times a day) and the juice of raw cabbage. You can buy

extract of unripe plantain banana (take 150 mg four to six times a

day).

If you have any type of ulcer, be sure to eliminate gastrointestinal

irritants, such as tobacco, NSAIDS, coffee and alcohol. Once your

ulcer

has healed, keep the gastrointestinal irritants out of your diet, and

try taking steps to enhance your body's secretion of digestive acids

and

enzymes to prevent a recurrence.

 

Alternatives to Heartburn Drugs

 

If you have chronic heartburn you probably know what triggers it. If

you

don't, here are the most common culprits; low stomach acid;

overeating;

too much fat and/or fried food, processed meats with nitrates or

nitrites in them; too much sugar, alcohol, chocolate; drugs, stress,

obesity and pregnancy.

Eating a balanced diet of unprocessed, organic whole foods is your

foundation for a healthy stomach. Eat an organic green salad or raw

organic vegetables at least once a day. Sprouted legumes and seeds

are

excellent sources of enzymes.

To help increase stomach acid, you can drink a glass or room

temperature

water a half-hour before eating. If that doesn't help, you can add a

tablespoon of apple cider vinegar. If neither of these solutions

work,

try taking a betaine hydrochloride supplement (HCI) with your meal.

Follow the directions on the bottle, starting with the smallest dose

and

increasing it if needed. Do not take HCI supplements when you have an

ulcer. Since stomach acid production declines as we age, HCI

supplementation can be a good anti-aging strategy.

 

Natural heartburn therapies include deglycyrrhizinated licorice

extract

or DGI. Try one or two 380 mg tablets on an empty stomach, three to

four

times a day. A glass of room temperature water, raw cabbage or potato

juice (organic) or herbal teas, (lukewarm, no lemon) can bring quick

relief. Fresh papaya or banana can help as well.

 

If you do need to lower your stomach acidity you can use a form of

organic sulfur called MSM (methylsulfonylmethane) in supplement form,

1,000 mg daily.

 

Remember, your stomach acid is one of your front line defenses

against

harmful bacteria. Suppress it and the rest of your systems have to

work

overtime to protect you.

 

Earl L. Mindell, R.Ph., Ph.D is a best-selling author in the field of

health and nutrition. This excerpt is from his latest book,

Prescription

Alternatives, co-authored with Virginia Hopkins.

 

 

JoAnn Guest

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My doctor suspected that I had H-pylori and put me on Pepto bismal

for 2 weeks. It is important that you do not take this treatment

for more than 2 weeks becasue bismuth builds up in your system.

I believe it is a metal. After the two week time that I ended taking

the Pepto, I then experienced an everyday metal taste in my mouth.

Lasted for about a week. No other problems and my symptoms went

away.

 

Liz D.

 

Gettingwell, " mrsjoguest " <joguest@m...> wrote:

> Gettingwell, slvrmoon2@a... wrote:

> > Hi,

> >

> > I just tested positive for H Pylori. I also have in the past

had

> a stool

> > anaylysis with a naturaopath that showed bacterial overgrowth and

> no IgA .

> > Trouble is my primary care knows nothing about stool tests and he

> is

> > recommending a triple drug treatment and an acid lowering

> medication. I am

> > afraid that treating one in isolation of others may cause me to

fix

> one

> > problem and worsen others.

> >

> > Can anyone offer any suggestions?

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--- Greetings Liz,

These OTC meds are not usually indicated in Earl Mindell's

writings, but he does make an exception with H.pylori, whereas

reluctantly. Evidently there is other recourse for the treatment of

this bacteria.

He is not at all suggesting that one use the drug indiscriminately;

but only in combination with antibiotics and for a limited time only.

If you read carefullly you will find that the article states it

should only be taken for one week and then only under the supervision

of a health professional.

 

Cheers,

 

JoAnn Guest

joguest

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http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html

 

In Gettingwell, " elizdettrey " <Rabbitbrain@e...> wrote:

> My doctor suspected that I had H-pylori and put me on Pepto bismal

> for 2 weeks. It is important that you do not take this treatment

> for more than 2 weeks becasue bismuth builds up in your system.

> I believe it is a metal. After the two week time that I ended

taking

> the Pepto, I then experienced an everyday metal taste in my mouth.

> Lasted for about a week. No other problems and my symptoms went

> away.

>

> Liz D.

 

> > > I just tested positive for H Pylori. I also have in the past

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