Guest guest Posted April 19, 2002 Report Share Posted April 19, 2002 Hi, I just tested positive for H Pylori. I also have in the past had a stool anaylysis with a naturaopath that showed bacterial overgrowth and no IgA . Trouble is my primary care knows nothing about stool tests and he is recommending a triple drug treatment and an acid lowering medication. I am afraid that treating one in isolation of others may cause me to fix one problem and worsen others. Can anyone offer any suggestions? Has anyone had experience with this before? Also, does anyone know of a good digestive problems discussion group? Thanks, Slvr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2002 Report Share Posted April 19, 2002 In a message dated 4/19/02 10:22:32 AM GMT Daylight Time, slvrmoon2 writes: > I just tested positive for H Pylori. I also have in the past had a stool > anaylysis with a naturaopath that showed bacterial overgrowth and no IgA . > > Trouble is my primary care knows nothing about stool tests and he is > recommending a triple drug treatment and an acid lowering medication. I am > > afraid that treating one in isolation of others may cause me to fix one > problem and worsen others. > > Can anyone offer any suggestions? Hi Slvr Whilst I never had the tests for H Pylori, I had permanent indigestion over more than 30 years. Almost any food would give me indigestion (heartburn), even water. I had pretty much given up until I read about propolis and chlorella. This was back in 1997. I took both at the same time in quite high doses and within 2 weeks I had got rid of 99% of indigestion and it has never come back. Hope this may be of some help. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2002 Report Share Posted May 1, 2002 Gettingwell, slvrmoon2@a... wrote: > Hi, > > I just tested positive for H Pylori. I also have in the past had a stool > anaylysis with a naturaopath that showed bacterial overgrowth and no IgA . > Trouble is my primary care knows nothing about stool tests and he is > recommending a triple drug treatment and an acid lowering medication. I am > afraid that treating one in isolation of others may cause me to fix one > problem and worsen others. > > Can anyone offer any suggestions? Natural Rx for Stomach Pain-Relief for H.pylori JoAnn Guest May 01, 2002 09:09 PDT Natural Rx for Stomach Pain In the stomach, muscular contractions thoroughly mix foods with hydrochloric acid. Stomach acid-powerful enough to strip paint-is a vital part of good digestion. A thick mucous layer protects the stomach walls from harm as the acid kills bacteria and parasites and frees up minerals and the B vitamins so that they can be absorbed in the small intestine. If sufficient stomach acid isn't produced, digestion suffers. The passage of food out of the stomach into the small intestine is delayed, which can lead to heartburn as the stomach pushes food mixed with acid back into the esophagus. Burning is caused by acid coming in contact with the lining of the esophagus, which isn't protected by a mucous layer like the stomach is. Before You " Take Two for Relief of Stomach Pain, " Read on Contrary to what the huge drug companies that make antacids and H2 blocker drugs say, excessive acid production is almost never the reason for heartburn, acid digestion or ulcers. In fact, it is now estimated that up to one-third of all bleeding ulcers are caused by taking NSAID drugs such as aspirin and ibuprofen. Antacids and H2 blockers alleviate symptoms for a short while by buffering acid and decreasing acid secretion, but can actually aggravate the underlying problem; too little acid in the stomach. With chronic use of these medications, digestion is compromised and decreased absorption of some vitamins and minerals can result. Once the food finally makes its way into the intestines, it isn't broken down enough to be properly absorbed. A few years ago, if you asked your physician what causes ulcers, he or she would promptly reply that too much stomach acid was to blame. Now we know that a spiral-shaped bacteria called Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori for short) is the primary culprit. It suppresses acid production and creates holes in the stomach's protective mucous layer, allowing acid to seep through and burn holes in the delicate tissue underneath. An H. pylori infection can also cause symptoms of indigestion and heartburn. Natural Alternatives to Ulcer Drugs The bacteria H.pylori is found in 90 percent of duodenal ulcer and 70 percent of stomach ulcer patients. This bacteria increases your risk of insufficient acid secretion (atrophic gastritis), ulcer and stomach cancer. Your doctor can give you a helicobacter pylori IgG antibody blood test to see if this nasty little bacteria is at the root of your problem. If it is, you'll be put on a course of antibiotics and a bismuth preparation (you know it as Pepto-Bismol) for a week. This is one instance in which conventional medicines may be your best bet. Quick eradication of H.pylori is important for healing of ulcers. There are some herbal remedies you can try first, however, if you want to avoid antibiotics. Licorice extract (deglycyrrhizinated licorice or DGL) is a wonderful herbal healing aid for ulcers. It increases the production of protective mucus in the stomach. Use 300 mg four to six times a day. Unripe bananas also has anti-ulcer effects, as do the herbs slippery elm (take 200 mg four to six times a day) and the juice of raw cabbage. You can buy extract of unripe plantain banana (take 150 mg four to six times a day). If you have any type of ulcer, be sure to eliminate gastrointestinal irritants, such as tobacco, NSAIDS, coffee and alcohol. Once your ulcer has healed, keep the gastrointestinal irritants out of your diet, and try taking steps to enhance your body's secretion of digestive acids and enzymes to prevent a recurrence. Alternatives to Heartburn Drugs If you have chronic heartburn you probably know what triggers it. If you don't, here are the most common culprits; low stomach acid; overeating; too much fat and/or fried food, processed meats with nitrates or nitrites in them; too much sugar, alcohol, chocolate; drugs, stress, obesity and pregnancy. Eating a balanced diet of unprocessed, organic whole foods is your foundation for a healthy stomach. Eat an organic green salad or raw organic vegetables at least once a day. Sprouted legumes and seeds are excellent sources of enzymes. To help increase stomach acid, you can drink a glass or room temperature water a half-hour before eating. If that doesn't help, you can add a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar. If neither of these solutions work, try taking a betaine hydrochloride supplement (HCI) with your meal. Follow the directions on the bottle, starting with the smallest dose and increasing it if needed. Do not take HCI supplements when you have an ulcer. Since stomach acid production declines as we age, HCI supplementation can be a good anti-aging strategy. Natural heartburn therapies include deglycyrrhizinated licorice extract or DGI. Try one or two 380 mg tablets on an empty stomach, three to four times a day. A glass of room temperature water, raw cabbage or potato juice (organic) or herbal teas, (lukewarm, no lemon) can bring quick relief. Fresh papaya or banana can help as well. If you do need to lower your stomach acidity you can use a form of organic sulfur called MSM (methylsulfonylmethane) in supplement form, 1,000 mg daily. Remember, your stomach acid is one of your front line defenses against harmful bacteria. Suppress it and the rest of your systems have to work overtime to protect you. Earl L. Mindell, R.Ph., Ph.D is a best-selling author in the field of health and nutrition. This excerpt is from his latest book, Prescription Alternatives, co-authored with Virginia Hopkins. JoAnn Guest jogu- Friendsforhea- http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html theaimcompanies " Health is not a Medical Issue " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2002 Report Share Posted May 3, 2002 My doctor suspected that I had H-pylori and put me on Pepto bismal for 2 weeks. It is important that you do not take this treatment for more than 2 weeks becasue bismuth builds up in your system. I believe it is a metal. After the two week time that I ended taking the Pepto, I then experienced an everyday metal taste in my mouth. Lasted for about a week. No other problems and my symptoms went away. Liz D. Gettingwell, " mrsjoguest " <joguest@m...> wrote: > Gettingwell, slvrmoon2@a... wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I just tested positive for H Pylori. I also have in the past had > a stool > > anaylysis with a naturaopath that showed bacterial overgrowth and > no IgA . > > Trouble is my primary care knows nothing about stool tests and he > is > > recommending a triple drug treatment and an acid lowering > medication. I am > > afraid that treating one in isolation of others may cause me to fix > one > > problem and worsen others. > > > > Can anyone offer any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2002 Report Share Posted May 3, 2002 --- Greetings Liz, These OTC meds are not usually indicated in Earl Mindell's writings, but he does make an exception with H.pylori, whereas reluctantly. Evidently there is other recourse for the treatment of this bacteria. He is not at all suggesting that one use the drug indiscriminately; but only in combination with antibiotics and for a limited time only. If you read carefullly you will find that the article states it should only be taken for one week and then only under the supervision of a health professional. Cheers, JoAnn Guest joguest Friendsforhealthnaturally http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html In Gettingwell, " elizdettrey " <Rabbitbrain@e...> wrote: > My doctor suspected that I had H-pylori and put me on Pepto bismal > for 2 weeks. It is important that you do not take this treatment > for more than 2 weeks becasue bismuth builds up in your system. > I believe it is a metal. After the two week time that I ended taking > the Pepto, I then experienced an everyday metal taste in my mouth. > Lasted for about a week. No other problems and my symptoms went > away. > > Liz D. > > > I just tested positive for H Pylori. I also have in the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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