Excitotoxins - How MSG and Aspartame are damaging the health of generations of children

[Guest guest]

-

* Health and Healing *

Tuesday, April 09, 2002 10:54 PM

Excitotoxins - How MSG and Aspartame are damaging

the health of generations of children

 

 

Excitotoxins - How MSG and Aspartame are damaging the health of

generations of children

 

 

Excitotoxins - How MSG and Aspartame are damaging the health of generations

of children and adults worldwide- http://www.excitotoxins.com/ -

 

Thu Jan 3 2002

Hidden Sources of MSG

by Julie K. Diaz

This is a list of ingredients that contain MSG or other related

excitotoxins. This comprehensive list was compiled from books written by

Blaylock and Swartz. These books can be found by clicking on Book Picks.

 

MSG and Aspartame, Two Known Toxins, are Found in Almost Every Type of Food

and Beverage Americans Consume

by Julie K. Diaz

Why does the FDA continue to allow food industry giants to add toxic

substances to our food and beverages, especially those marketed to children?

Solid research studies have shown links between MSG and Aspartame, with ADD,

ADHD, Dyslexia, Brain tumors, Depression, and even rage disorder and

paranoia. In light of the increasing violence in schools, including mass

murders, like those at Columbine, why doesn't the FDA take immediate action

and look ONLY at research that is NOT biased due to funding by the Glutamate

industry?

 

Food and Beverages that contain Aspartame

by Julie K. Diaz

This article provides a list of foods and beverages that typically contain

Aspartame, or Nutrasweet (Equal).

 

News and Headlines: see all headlines ?

 

The Deadly Deception of Aspartame by the FDA and Searle

" The Deadly Deception " cites chapter and verse of the coverup by Searle and

the FDA. Here are some highlights from the book " The Deadly Deception " :

http://www.mercola.com

 

FDA Ignores Complaints of Neurological Symptoms

In 1989, the FDA received over 4,000 complaints from people who described

adverse reactions. Research also indicates that aspartame, when combined

with glutamine products (such as MSG, widely used in foods) increase the

likelihood of brain damage occurring in children.

http://www.mercola.com

 

Aspartame - avoid it - Dangerous symptoms

A double blind study of the effects of aspartame on persons with mood

disorders was recently conducted by Dr Ralph G. Walton. The study showed a

large increase in serious symptoms for persons taking aspartame. Since some

of the symptoms were so serious, the Institutional Review Board had to stop

the study.

http://www.mercola.com

 

METHANOL - AKA WOOD ALCOHOL or POISON - 10% OF

Methanol/wood alcohol is a deadly poison. Some people may remember methanol

as the poison that has caused some " skid row " alcoholics to end up blind or

dead. Methanol is gradually released in the small intestine when the methyl

group of aspartame encounter the enzyme chymotrypsin.

http://www.mercola.com

 

Most Visited Health Sites on the Net

Of all the medical journals in the world, only the British Medical Journal

now has more traffic than this site. More people visit this site than the

New England Journal of Medicine, JAMA, and the Lancet. This article shows

the top Natural Health Sites and the top General Health Sites.

http://www.mercola.com

 

Sweet on Stevia?

Stevia comes from a shrub native to Paraguay, Stevia rebaudiana. It also

grows in Brazil and Argentina, and is now widely cultivated in China. The

leaves have been used for centuries by native peoples to make sweet teas, or

to sweeten other foods, with no evidence of adverse reactions.

http://www.drweil.com

 

 

[Guest guest]

And then again, maybe they are not. I do not see people dropping the streets

like flies. I one person has an adverse reaction, as can happen with anything,

does that mean that there

is wholesale slaughter in progress? What happened to Polio, Smallpox, etc.,

etc.,....if vaccinations and such were so bad. And the same applies to

aspartame, one of the most studied

compounds in the world.

Morton

 

Elaine wrote:

 

> -

> * Health and Healing *

> Tuesday, April 09, 2002 10:54 PM

> Excitotoxins - How MSG and Aspartame are

damaging the health of generations of children

>

> Excitotoxins - How MSG and Aspartame are damaging the health of

> generations of children

>

> Excitotoxins - How MSG and Aspartame are damaging the health of generations

> of children and adults worldwide- http://www.excitotoxins.com/ -

>

> Thu Jan 3 2002

> Hidden Sources of MSG

> by Julie K. Diaz

> This is a list of ingredients that contain MSG or other related

> excitotoxins. This comprehensive list was compiled from books written by

> Blaylock and Swartz. These books can be found by clicking on Book Picks.

>

> MSG and Aspartame, Two Known Toxins, are Found in Almost Every Type of Food

> and Beverage Americans Consume

> by Julie K. Diaz

> Why does the FDA continue to allow food industry giants to add toxic

> substances to our food and beverages, especially those marketed to children?

> Solid research studies have shown links between MSG and Aspartame, with ADD,

> ADHD, Dyslexia, Brain tumors, Depression, and even rage disorder and

> paranoia. In light of the increasing violence in schools, including mass

> murders, like those at Columbine, why doesn't the FDA take immediate action

> and look ONLY at research that is NOT biased due to funding by the Glutamate

> industry?

>

> Food and Beverages that contain Aspartame

> by Julie K. Diaz

> This article provides a list of foods and beverages that typically contain

> Aspartame, or Nutrasweet (Equal).

>

> News and Headlines: see all headlines ?

>

> The Deadly Deception of Aspartame by the FDA and Searle

> " The Deadly Deception " cites chapter and verse of the coverup by Searle and

> the FDA. Here are some highlights from the book " The Deadly Deception " :

> http://www.mercola.com

>

> FDA Ignores Complaints of Neurological Symptoms

> In 1989, the FDA received over 4,000 complaints from people who described

> adverse reactions. Research also indicates that aspartame, when combined

> with glutamine products (such as MSG, widely used in foods) increase the

> likelihood of brain damage occurring in children.

> http://www.mercola.com

>

> Aspartame - avoid it - Dangerous symptoms

> A double blind study of the effects of aspartame on persons with mood

> disorders was recently conducted by Dr Ralph G. Walton. The study showed a

> large increase in serious symptoms for persons taking aspartame. Since some

> of the symptoms were so serious, the Institutional Review Board had to stop

> the study.

> http://www.mercola.com

>

> METHANOL - AKA WOOD ALCOHOL or POISON - 10% OF

> Methanol/wood alcohol is a deadly poison. Some people may remember methanol

> as the poison that has caused some " skid row " alcoholics to end up blind or

> dead. Methanol is gradually released in the small intestine when the methyl

> group of aspartame encounter the enzyme chymotrypsin.

> http://www.mercola.com

>

> Most Visited Health Sites on the Net

> Of all the medical journals in the world, only the British Medical Journal

> now has more traffic than this site. More people visit this site than the

> New England Journal of Medicine, JAMA, and the Lancet. This article shows

> the top Natural Health Sites and the top General Health Sites.

> http://www.mercola.com

>

> Sweet on Stevia?

> Stevia comes from a shrub native to Paraguay, Stevia rebaudiana. It also

> grows in Brazil and Argentina, and is now widely cultivated in China. The

> leaves have been used for centuries by native peoples to make sweet teas, or

> to sweeten other foods, with no evidence of adverse reactions.

> http://www.drweil.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

A lot of what I have read about vaccines, is that the mercury used as

a preservative in a lot of them can be toxic and can cause permanent

damge. It is quite probable that they could use something else.

 

Probably a matter of their own economics, like american style

dentistry.

 

Otherwise I'm not that knowledgeable about them.

 

As for the aspertame ditto as to my knowledge.

 

I do believe there have been a few studies showing toxicity also.

 

I certainly don't think they are putting it in our foods for my

interests but theirs. If anyone is going to look out for me, it will

probably have to be me. I believe the manufacturers, FDA, Govt. Seems

to have other interests.

 

Frank

 

Can anyone in the group share some real knowledge here about these

two subjects?.

 

 

 

 

Gettingwell, Morton Bodanis <mortonmb@c...> wrote:

> And then again, maybe they are not. I do not see people dropping

the streets like flies. I one person has an adverse reaction, as can

happen with anything, does that mean that there

> is wholesale slaughter in progress? What happened to Polio,

Smallpox, etc., etc.,....if vaccinations and such were so bad. And

the same applies to aspartame, one of the most studied

> compounds in the world.

> Morton

>

> Elaine wrote:

>

> > -

> > * Health and Healing *

> > Tuesday, April 09, 2002 10:54 PM

> > Excitotoxins - How MSG and

Aspartame are damaging the health of generations of children

> >

> > Excitotoxins - How MSG and Aspartame are damaging the

health of

> > generations of children

> >

> > Excitotoxins - How MSG and Aspartame are damaging the health of

generations

> > of children and adults worldwide- http://www.excitotoxins.com/ -

> >

> > Thu Jan 3 2002

> > Hidden Sources of MSG

> > by Julie K. Diaz

> > This is a list of ingredients that contain MSG or other related

> > excitotoxins. This comprehensive list was compiled from books

written by

> > Blaylock and Swartz. These books can be found by clicking on Book

Picks.

> >

> > MSG and Aspartame, Two Known Toxins, are Found in Almost Every

Type of Food

> > and Beverage Americans Consume

> > by Julie K. Diaz

> > Why does the FDA continue to allow food industry giants to add

toxic

> > substances to our food and beverages, especially those marketed

to children?

> > Solid research studies have shown links between MSG and

Aspartame, with ADD,

> > ADHD, Dyslexia, Brain tumors, Depression, and even rage disorder

and

> > paranoia. In light of the increasing violence in schools,

including mass

> > murders, like those at Columbine, why doesn't the FDA take

immediate action

> > and look ONLY at research that is NOT biased due to funding by

the Glutamate

> > industry?

> >

> > Food and Beverages that contain Aspartame

> > by Julie K. Diaz

> > This article provides a list of foods and beverages that

typically contain

> > Aspartame, or Nutrasweet (Equal).

> >

> > News and Headlines: see all headlines ?

> >

> > The Deadly Deception of Aspartame by the FDA and Searle

> > " The Deadly Deception " cites chapter and verse of the coverup by

Searle and

> > the FDA. Here are some highlights from the book " The Deadly

Deception " :

> > http://www.mercola.com

> >

> > FDA Ignores Complaints of Neurological Symptoms

> > In 1989, the FDA received over 4,000 complaints from people who

described

> > adverse reactions. Research also indicates that aspartame, when

combined

> > with glutamine products (such as MSG, widely used in foods)

increase the

> > likelihood of brain damage occurring in children.

> > http://www.mercola.com

> >

> > Aspartame - avoid it - Dangerous symptoms

> > A double blind study of the effects of aspartame on persons with

mood

> > disorders was recently conducted by Dr Ralph G. Walton. The study

showed a

> > large increase in serious symptoms for persons taking aspartame.

Since some

> > of the symptoms were so serious, the Institutional Review Board

had to stop

> > the study.

> > http://www.mercola.com

> >

> > METHANOL - AKA WOOD ALCOHOL or POISON - 10% OF

> > Methanol/wood alcohol is a deadly poison. Some people may

remember methanol

> > as the poison that has caused some " skid row " alcoholics to end

up blind or

> > dead. Methanol is gradually released in the small intestine when

the methyl

> > group of aspartame encounter the enzyme chymotrypsin.

> > http://www.mercola.com

> >

> > Most Visited Health Sites on the Net

> > Of all the medical journals in the world, only the British

Medical Journal

> > now has more traffic than this site. More people visit this site

than the

> > New England Journal of Medicine, JAMA, and the Lancet. This

article shows

> > the top Natural Health Sites and the top General Health Sites.

> > http://www.mercola.com

> >

> > Sweet on Stevia?

> > Stevia comes from a shrub native to Paraguay, Stevia rebaudiana.

It also

> > grows in Brazil and Argentina, and is now widely cultivated in

China. The

> > leaves have been used for centuries by native peoples to make

sweet teas, or

> > to sweeten other foods, with no evidence of adverse reactions.

> > http://www.drweil.com

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Aspartame a most heavily researched product. There are researchers who have

their own agendas and follow dubious techniques. Anyone can be allergic to

anything. If someone is

uncomfortable eating something, don't eat it any more. My friend gets horrible

headaches if he ingests monosodium glutamate, a food flavour enhancer which has

been use by Orientals

since forever, but has no adverse effect upon me or countless others. If you

want to find out more about aspartame, put the word into your browser window and

use your analytical

abilities to separate the wheat from the chaff.

 

I use a better search engine that my browser. It is downloadable at

<www.copernic.com> The basic engine, which will suit most of us, is free. This

metasearch engine searches many

search engines at the same time with no loss of time. There are other similar

ones, but I like this one.

Morton

 

califpacific wrote:

 

> A lot of what I have read about vaccines, is that the mercury used as

> a preservative in a lot of them can be toxic and can cause permanent

> damge. It is quite probable that they could use something else.

>

> Probably a matter of their own economics, like american style

> dentistry.

>

> Otherwise I'm not that knowledgeable about them.

>

> As for the aspertame ditto as to my knowledge.

>

> I do believe there have been a few studies showing toxicity also.

>

> I certainly don't think they are putting it in our foods for my

> interests but theirs. If anyone is going to look out for me, it will

> probably have to be me. I believe the manufacturers, FDA, Govt. Seems

> to have other interests.

>

> Frank

>

> Can anyone in the group share some real knowledge here about these

> two subjects?.

>

> Gettingwell, Morton Bodanis <mortonmb@c...> wrote:

> > And then again, maybe they are not. I do not see people dropping

> the streets like flies. I one person has an adverse reaction, as can

> happen with anything, does that mean that there

> > is wholesale slaughter in progress? What happened to Polio,

> Smallpox, etc., etc.,....if vaccinations and such were so bad. And

> the same applies to aspartame, one of the most studied

> > compounds in the world.

> > Morton

> >

> > Elaine wrote:

> >

> > > -

> > > * Health and Healing *

> > > Tuesday, April 09, 2002 10:54 PM

> > > Excitotoxins - How MSG and

> Aspartame are damaging the health of generations of children

> > >

> > > Excitotoxins - How MSG and Aspartame are damaging the

> health of

> > > generations of children

> > >

> > > Excitotoxins - How MSG and Aspartame are damaging the health of

> generations

> > > of children and adults worldwide- http://www.excitotoxins.com/ -

> > >

> > > Thu Jan 3 2002

> > > Hidden Sources of MSG

> > > by Julie K. Diaz

> > > This is a list of ingredients that contain MSG or other related

> > > excitotoxins. This comprehensive list was compiled from books

> written by

> > > Blaylock and Swartz. These books can be found by clicking on Book

> Picks.

> > >

> > > MSG and Aspartame, Two Known Toxins, are Found in Almost Every

> Type of Food

> > > and Beverage Americans Consume

> > > by Julie K. Diaz

> > > Why does the FDA continue to allow food industry giants to add

> toxic

> > > substances to our food and beverages, especially those marketed

> to children?

> > > Solid research studies have shown links between MSG and

> Aspartame, with ADD,

> > > ADHD, Dyslexia, Brain tumors, Depression, and even rage disorder

> and

> > > paranoia. In light of the increasing violence in schools,

> including mass

> > > murders, like those at Columbine, why doesn't the FDA take

> immediate action

> > > and look ONLY at research that is NOT biased due to funding by

> the Glutamate

> > > industry?

> > >

> > > Food and Beverages that contain Aspartame

> > > by Julie K. Diaz

> > > This article provides a list of foods and beverages that

> typically contain

> > > Aspartame, or Nutrasweet (Equal).

> > >

> > > News and Headlines: see all headlines ?

> > >

> > > The Deadly Deception of Aspartame by the FDA and Searle

> > > " The Deadly Deception " cites chapter and verse of the coverup by

> Searle and

> > > the FDA. Here are some highlights from the book " The Deadly

> Deception " :

> > > http://www.mercola.com

> > >

> > > FDA Ignores Complaints of Neurological Symptoms

> > > In 1989, the FDA received over 4,000 complaints from people who

> described

> > > adverse reactions. Research also indicates that aspartame, when

> combined

> > > with glutamine products (such as MSG, widely used in foods)

> increase the

> > > likelihood of brain damage occurring in children.

> > > http://www.mercola.com

> > >

> > > Aspartame - avoid it - Dangerous symptoms

> > > A double blind study of the effects of aspartame on persons with

> mood

> > > disorders was recently conducted by Dr Ralph G. Walton. The study

> showed a

> > > large increase in serious symptoms for persons taking aspartame.

> Since some

> > > of the symptoms were so serious, the Institutional Review Board

> had to stop

> > > the study.

> > > http://www.mercola.com

> > >

> > > METHANOL - AKA WOOD ALCOHOL or POISON - 10% OF

> > > Methanol/wood alcohol is a deadly poison. Some people may

> remember methanol

> > > as the poison that has caused some " skid row " alcoholics to end

> up blind or

> > > dead. Methanol is gradually released in the small intestine when

> the methyl

> > > group of aspartame encounter the enzyme chymotrypsin.

> > > http://www.mercola.com

> > >

> > > Most Visited Health Sites on the Net

> > > Of all the medical journals in the world, only the British

> Medical Journal

> > > now has more traffic than this site. More people visit this site

> than the

> > > New England Journal of Medicine, JAMA, and the Lancet. This

> article shows

> > > the top Natural Health Sites and the top General Health Sites.

> > > http://www.mercola.com

> > >

> > > Sweet on Stevia?

> > > Stevia comes from a shrub native to Paraguay, Stevia rebaudiana.

> It also

> > > grows in Brazil and Argentina, and is now widely cultivated in

> China. The

> > > leaves have been used for centuries by native peoples to make

> sweet teas, or

> > > to sweeten other foods, with no evidence of adverse reactions.

> > > http://www.drweil.com

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Morton,

 

Yes, you are right when you say that all research is not valid. The

problem arises when research is done to further a stated end result

and people should be aware of this. Most research done today is paid

for by the companies that have a product to sell.So any person

relying on the weight or amount of research done on any subject can

be misled. I think this applies to almost the highest levels of

research today.

 

This holds true for the internet as well. In fact, very little

indepth research is given on the internet. But because it is a good,

open, vehicle for economic promotion, most of it is slanted to sell

rather than inform. I am not saying that should be changed, I'm only

stating that people should be aware of this when trying to find out

the truth as it affects theirselves.

 

As for MSG having no effect. What we usually mean is " that we know

of " sometimes the damage is subclinical or not directly noticed or

attributed to the causitive factor. A lot of times, toxic substances

don't show an immediate effect. ie. " I ate something an hour ago and

I'm now sick. " Depends on a lot of things (amount etc.) They damage

over time and by the time the symptoms are in full bloom, major

damage can occur. Sometimes irreversably so..

 

The toxicity of chemicals , metals, etc. present many variables. How

much over what period of time, has fast or efficient your body can

rid itself of them, what combinations are formed within the body with

other toxic substances.etc. It is not such a simple matter as I ate

it and it didn't make me immediately sick. If that we're a good

criteria we wouldn't need any research whatsoever.( Hold it while I

get another cigerette, the last one didn't make me sick so it must be

alright for me.)

 

Of course basic research is limited in evaluating most of these areas

for the individual person. There fore I think we should play it as

safe as we can in trying to limit the toxic substances when we are

aware of them and can do so. This is for us to decide on our own

individual basis.

 

Frank

 

 

 

 

Gettingwell, Morton Bodanis <mortonmb@c...> wrote:

> Aspartame a most heavily researched product. There are researchers

who have their own agendas and follow dubious techniques. Anyone can

be allergic to anything. If someone is

> uncomfortable eating something, don't eat it any more. My friend

gets horrible headaches if he ingests monosodium glutamate, a food

flavour enhancer which has been use by Orientals

> since forever, but has no adverse effect upon me or countless

others. If you want to find out more about aspartame, put the word

into your browser window and use your analytical

> abilities to separate the wheat from the chaff.

>

> I use a better search engine that my browser. It is downloadable

at <www.copernic.com> The basic engine, which will suit most of us,

is free. This metasearch engine searches many

> search engines at the same time with no loss of time. There are

other similar ones, but I like this one.

> Morton

>

> califpacific wrote:

>

> > A lot of what I have read about vaccines, is that the mercury

used as

> > a preservative in a lot of them can be toxic and can cause

permanent

> > damge. It is quite probable that they could use something else.

> >

> > Probably a matter of their own economics, like american style

> > dentistry.

> >

> > Otherwise I'm not that knowledgeable about them.

> >

> > As for the aspertame ditto as to my knowledge.

> >

> > I do believe there have been a few studies showing toxicity also.

> >

> > I certainly don't think they are putting it in our foods for my

> > interests but theirs. If anyone is going to look out for me, it

will

> > probably have to be me. I believe the manufacturers, FDA, Govt.

Seems

> > to have other interests.

> >

> > Frank

> >

> > Can anyone in the group share some real knowledge here about these

> > two subjects?.

> >

> > Gettingwell, Morton Bodanis <mortonmb@c...> wrote:

> > > And then again, maybe they are not. I do not see people dropping

> > the streets like flies. I one person has an adverse reaction, as

can

> > happen with anything, does that mean that there

> > > is wholesale slaughter in progress? What happened to Polio,

> > Smallpox, etc., etc.,....if vaccinations and such were so bad. And

> > the same applies to aspartame, one of the most studied

> > > compounds in the world.

> > > Morton

> > >

> > > Elaine wrote:

> > >

> > > > -

> > > > * Health and Healing *

> > > > Tuesday, April 09, 2002 10:54 PM

> > > > Excitotoxins - How MSG and

> > Aspartame are damaging the health of generations of children

> > > >

> > > > Excitotoxins - How MSG and Aspartame are damaging the

> > health of

> > > > generations of children

> > > >

> > > > Excitotoxins - How MSG and Aspartame are damaging the health

of

> > generations

> > > > of children and adults worldwide-

http://www.excitotoxins.com/ -

> > > >

> > > > Thu Jan 3 2002

> > > > Hidden Sources of MSG

> > > > by Julie K. Diaz

> > > > This is a list of ingredients that contain MSG or other

related

> > > > excitotoxins. This comprehensive list was compiled from books

> > written by

> > > > Blaylock and Swartz. These books can be found by clicking on

Book

> > Picks.

> > > >

> > > > MSG and Aspartame, Two Known Toxins, are Found in Almost Every

> > Type of Food

> > > > and Beverage Americans Consume

> > > > by Julie K. Diaz

> > > > Why does the FDA continue to allow food industry giants to add

> > toxic

> > > > substances to our food and beverages, especially those

marketed

> > to children?

> > > > Solid research studies have shown links between MSG and

> > Aspartame, with ADD,

> > > > ADHD, Dyslexia, Brain tumors, Depression, and even rage

disorder

> > and

> > > > paranoia. In light of the increasing violence in schools,

> > including mass

> > > > murders, like those at Columbine, why doesn't the FDA take

> > immediate action

> > > > and look ONLY at research that is NOT biased due to funding by

> > the Glutamate

> > > > industry?

> > > >

> > > > Food and Beverages that contain Aspartame

> > > > by Julie K. Diaz

> > > > This article provides a list of foods and beverages that

> > typically contain

> > > > Aspartame, or Nutrasweet (Equal).

> > > >

> > > > News and Headlines: see all headlines ?

> > > >

> > > > The Deadly Deception of Aspartame by the FDA and Searle

> > > > " The Deadly Deception " cites chapter and verse of the coverup

by

> > Searle and

> > > > the FDA. Here are some highlights from the book " The Deadly

> > Deception " :

> > > > http://www.mercola.com

> > > >

> > > > FDA Ignores Complaints of Neurological Symptoms

> > > > In 1989, the FDA received over 4,000 complaints from people

who

> > described

> > > > adverse reactions. Research also indicates that aspartame,

when

> > combined

> > > > with glutamine products (such as MSG, widely used in foods)

> > increase the

> > > > likelihood of brain damage occurring in children.

> > > > http://www.mercola.com

> > > >

> > > > Aspartame - avoid it - Dangerous symptoms

> > > > A double blind study of the effects of aspartame on persons

with

> > mood

> > > > disorders was recently conducted by Dr Ralph G. Walton. The

study

> > showed a

> > > > large increase in serious symptoms for persons taking

aspartame.

> > Since some

> > > > of the symptoms were so serious, the Institutional Review

Board

> > had to stop

> > > > the study.

> > > > http://www.mercola.com

> > > >

> > > > METHANOL - AKA WOOD ALCOHOL or POISON - 10% OF

> > > > Methanol/wood alcohol is a deadly poison. Some people may

> > remember methanol

> > > > as the poison that has caused some " skid row " alcoholics to

end

> > up blind or

> > > > dead. Methanol is gradually released in the small intestine

when

> > the methyl

> > > > group of aspartame encounter the enzyme chymotrypsin.

> > > > http://www.mercola.com

> > > >

> > > > Most Visited Health Sites on the Net

> > > > Of all the medical journals in the world, only the British

> > Medical Journal

> > > > now has more traffic than this site. More people visit this

site

> > than the

> > > > New England Journal of Medicine, JAMA, and the Lancet. This

> > article shows

> > > > the top Natural Health Sites and the top General Health Sites.

> > > > http://www.mercola.com

> > > >

> > > > Sweet on Stevia?

> > > > Stevia comes from a shrub native to Paraguay, Stevia

rebaudiana.

> > It also

> > > > grows in Brazil and Argentina, and is now widely cultivated in

> > China. The

> > > > leaves have been used for centuries by native peoples to make

> > sweet teas, or

> > > > to sweeten other foods, with no evidence of adverse reactions.

> > > > http://www.drweil.com

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi, Frank

Well, we seem to be in agreement, sort of. Yes, most research is paid for by

those who will have a vested interest in the research results, else, one would

not have an interest in

performing the research. But this in itself does not invalidate the research.

As for monosodium glutamate, it is derived from a protein occuring naturally

in nature. Monosodium glutamate (MSG) has been extracted and used for many years

in home and

restaurant foods, and in processed foods. People sensitive to MSG may have mild

and transitory reactions when they eat foods that contain large amounts of MSG

(such as would be found

in heavily flavor-enhanced foods). Because MSG is commonly used in Chinese

cuisine, these reactions were initially referred to as " Chinese restaurant

syndrome. "

FDA believes that MSG is a safe food ingredient for the general population.

It is regarded by the agency as among food ingredients that are " generally

recognized as safe. " FDA has

studied adverse reaction reports and other data concerning MSG's safety. The

agency also has an ongoing contract with the Federation of American Societies

for Experimental Biology to

re- examine the scientific data on possible adverse reactions to glutamate in

general. MSG must be declared on the label of any food to which it is added.

To label MSG as being toxic is wrong - it is not a toxic substance.

Generally, it is the dose which makes the poison; water is a necessity of life,

but if you were to drink too

much, you would actually drown your body's cells and die. To label peanuts as

toxic would be more correct as to one allergic to them, the slightest amount

will be toxic, quickly. But

should we be cautious and avoid them? We could create a long list of foods to

avoid for possible effects of which we are not yet aware. To avoid MSG, derived

from a common

nutrient, because it may be harmful " subclinically " is a long reach. But if it

makes you feel more secure to avoid it, do what you think is good for you.

Morton

 

 

 

califpacific wrote:

 

> Dear Morton,

>

> Yes, you are right when you say that all research is not valid. The

> problem arises when research is done to further a stated end result

> and people should be aware of this. Most research done today is paid

> for by the companies that have a product to sell.So any person

> relying on the weight or amount of research done on any subject can

> be misled. I think this applies to almost the highest levels of

> research today.

>

> This holds true for the internet as well. In fact, very little

> indepth research is given on the internet. But because it is a good,

> open, vehicle for economic promotion, most of it is slanted to sell

> rather than inform. I am not saying that should be changed, I'm only

> stating that people should be aware of this when trying to find out

> the truth as it affects theirselves.

>

> As for MSG having no effect. What we usually mean is " that we know

> of " sometimes the damage is subclinical or not directly noticed or

> attributed to the causitive factor. A lot of times, toxic substances

> don't show an immediate effect. ie. " I ate something an hour ago and

> I'm now sick. " Depends on a lot of things (amount etc.) They damage

> over time and by the time the symptoms are in full bloom, major

> damage can occur. Sometimes irreversably so..

>

> The toxicity of chemicals , metals, etc. present many variables. How

> much over what period of time, has fast or efficient your body can

> rid itself of them, what combinations are formed within the body with

> other toxic substances.etc. It is not such a simple matter as I ate

> it and it didn't make me immediately sick. If that we're a good

> criteria we wouldn't need any research whatsoever.( Hold it while I

> get another cigerette, the last one didn't make me sick so it must be

> alright for me.)

>

> Of course basic research is limited in evaluating most of these areas

> for the individual person. There fore I think we should play it as

> safe as we can in trying to limit the toxic substances when we are

> aware of them and can do so. This is for us to decide on our own

> individual basis.

>

> Frank

>

> Gettingwell, Morton Bodanis <mortonmb@c...> wrote:

> > Aspartame a most heavily researched product. There are researchers

> who have their own agendas and follow dubious techniques. Anyone can

> be allergic to anything. If someone is

> > uncomfortable eating something, don't eat it any more. My friend

> gets horrible headaches if he ingests monosodium glutamate, a food

> flavour enhancer which has been use by Orientals

> > since forever, but has no adverse effect upon me or countless

> others. If you want to find out more about aspartame, put the word

> into your browser window and use your analytical

> > abilities to separate the wheat from the chaff.

> >

> > I use a better search engine that my browser. It is downloadable

> at <www.copernic.com> The basic engine, which will suit most of us,

> is free. This metasearch engine searches many

> > search engines at the same time with no loss of time. There are

> other similar ones, but I like this one.

> > Morton

> >

> > califpacific wrote:

> >

> > > A lot of what I have read about vaccines, is that the mercury

> used as

> > > a preservative in a lot of them can be toxic and can cause

> permanent

> > > damge. It is quite probable that they could use something else.

> > >

> > > Probably a matter of their own economics, like american style

> > > dentistry.

> > >

> > > Otherwise I'm not that knowledgeable about them.

> > >

> > > As for the aspertame ditto as to my knowledge.

> > >

> > > I do believe there have been a few studies showing toxicity also.

> > >

> > > I certainly don't think they are putting it in our foods for my

> > > interests but theirs. If anyone is going to look out for me, it

> will

> > > probably have to be me. I believe the manufacturers, FDA, Govt.

> Seems

> > > to have other interests.

> > >

> > > Frank

> > >

> > > Can anyone in the group share some real knowledge here about these

> > > two subjects?.

> > >

> > > Gettingwell, Morton Bodanis <mortonmb@c...> wrote:

> > > > And then again, maybe they are not. I do not see people dropping

> > > the streets like flies. I one person has an adverse reaction, as

> can

> > > happen with anything, does that mean that there

> > > > is wholesale slaughter in progress? What happened to Polio,

> > > Smallpox, etc., etc.,....if vaccinations and such were so bad. And

> > > the same applies to aspartame, one of the most studied

> > > > compounds in the world.

> > > > Morton

> > > >

> > > > Elaine wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > * Health and Healing *

> > > > > Tuesday, April 09, 2002 10:54 PM

> > > > > Excitotoxins - How MSG and

> > > Aspartame are damaging the health of generations of children

> > > > >

> > > > > Excitotoxins - How MSG and Aspartame are damaging the

> > > health of

> > > > > generations of children

> > > > >

> > > > > Excitotoxins - How MSG and Aspartame are damaging the health

> of

> > > generations

> > > > > of children and adults worldwide-

> http://www.excitotoxins.com/ -

> > > > >

> > > > > Thu Jan 3 2002

> > > > > Hidden Sources of MSG

> > > > > by Julie K. Diaz

> > > > > This is a list of ingredients that contain MSG or other

> related

> > > > > excitotoxins. This comprehensive list was compiled from books

> > > written by

> > > > > Blaylock and Swartz. These books can be found by clicking on

> Book

> > > Picks.

> > > > >

> > > > > MSG and Aspartame, Two Known Toxins, are Found in Almost Every

> > > Type of Food

> > > > > and Beverage Americans Consume

> > > > > by Julie K. Diaz

> > > > > Why does the FDA continue to allow food industry giants to add

> > > toxic

> > > > > substances to our food and beverages, especially those

> marketed

> > > to children?

> > > > > Solid research studies have shown links between MSG and

> > > Aspartame, with ADD,

> > > > > ADHD, Dyslexia, Brain tumors, Depression, and even rage

> disorder

> > > and

> > > > > paranoia. In light of the increasing violence in schools,

> > > including mass

> > > > > murders, like those at Columbine, why doesn't the FDA take

> > > immediate action

> > > > > and look ONLY at research that is NOT biased due to funding by

> > > the Glutamate

> > > > > industry?

> > > > >

> > > > > Food and Beverages that contain Aspartame

> > > > > by Julie K. Diaz

> > > > > This article provides a list of foods and beverages that

> > > typically contain

> > > > > Aspartame, or Nutrasweet (Equal).

> > > > >

> > > > > News and Headlines: see all headlines ?

> > > > >

> > > > > The Deadly Deception of Aspartame by the FDA and Searle

> > > > > " The Deadly Deception " cites chapter and verse of the coverup

> by

> > > Searle and

> > > > > the FDA. Here are some highlights from the book " The Deadly

> > > Deception " :

> > > > > http://www.mercola.com

> > > > >

> > > > > FDA Ignores Complaints of Neurological Symptoms

> > > > > In 1989, the FDA received over 4,000 complaints from people

> who

> > > described

> > > > > adverse reactions. Research also indicates that aspartame,

> when

> > > combined

> > > > > with glutamine products (such as MSG, widely used in foods)

> > > increase the

> > > > > likelihood of brain damage occurring in children.

> > > > > http://www.mercola.com

> > > > >

> > > > > Aspartame - avoid it - Dangerous symptoms

> > > > > A double blind study of the effects of aspartame on persons

> with

> > > mood

> > > > > disorders was recently conducted by Dr Ralph G. Walton. The

> study

> > > showed a

> > > > > large increase in serious symptoms for persons taking

> aspartame.

> > > Since some

> > > > > of the symptoms were so serious, the Institutional Review

> Board

> > > had to stop

> > > > > the study.

> > > > > http://www.mercola.com

> > > > >

> > > > > METHANOL - AKA WOOD ALCOHOL or POISON - 10% OF

> > > > > Methanol/wood alcohol is a deadly poison. Some people may

> > > remember methanol

> > > > > as the poison that has caused some " skid row " alcoholics to

> end

> > > up blind or

> > > > > dead. Methanol is gradually released in the small intestine

> when

> > > the methyl

> > > > > group of aspartame encounter the enzyme chymotrypsin.

> > > > > http://www.mercola.com

> > > > >

> > > > > Most Visited Health Sites on the Net

> > > > > Of all the medical journals in the world, only the British

> > > Medical Journal

> > > > > now has more traffic than this site. More people visit this

> site

> > > than the

> > > > > New England Journal of Medicine, JAMA, and the Lancet. This

> > > article shows

> > > > > the top Natural Health Sites and the top General Health Sites.

> > > > > http://www.mercola.com

> > > > >

> > > > > Sweet on Stevia?

> > > > > Stevia comes from a shrub native to Paraguay, Stevia

> rebaudiana.

> > > It also

> > > > > grows in Brazil and Argentina, and is now widely cultivated in

> > > China. The

> > > > > leaves have been used for centuries by native peoples to make

> > > sweet teas, or

> > > > > to sweeten other foods, with no evidence of adverse reactions.

> > > > > http://www.drweil.com

> > > > >

> > > > >