Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 ------ Start of Forwarded Message ------ JoAnn Guest <joguest Wed, 6 Mar 2002 22:05:52 +0000 Melanoma How Much is Your Health Worth How Much is your Health Worth? The first thing that concerns people when they think of supplements is the expense. You may already be spending a lot on your health care needs. Here's something to consider though. How much are you currently spending on prescriptions and over the counter drugs each month? Then ask how much you could save if you were able to stop those medications? Most prescription drugs are expensive and my guess is that the savings would be significant. Consider the savings if you could avoid certain surgical procedures-coronary bypass for example, can cost over $40,000. Additionally, results of recent studies indicate that by taking adequate levels of vitamin E, C, selenium and magnesium, the rate of heart disease could be reduced by 50 percent---and $50 billion buys a lot of multivitamin/mineral formulas! Similar savings occur across a wide range of other illnesses. Labels Can Lie How do you decide which brand to buy? My patients tell me they receive offers in the mail all the time offering supplements at huge savings. In addition supermarkets, pharmacies and health food stores have row after row of nutritional supplements. Folks, one thing you should NOT do is to buy inexpensive, off-brand supplements, or inexpensive mail order brands, without checking them out first. Manufacturers of cut-rate products have to save money someplace and they usually accomplish it by cutting corners. Potencies, for example, are often too low and the vitamins frequently contain undesirable additives. You should not assume that all supplements are the same. You must read labels on the bottles carefully. Every manufacturer claims that their product is superior and their quality control measures are the strictest and this simply is not always the case. Potency and purity of dietary supplements can vary widely---even from pill to pill within the same bottle. Doctors at Duke University recently examined 12 bottles of the amino acid L-carnitine and found that most samples only contained 60 percent or less of the substance on the label. Numerous tests have proven that what was claimed on the label did not match up with the certificate of analysis on the product. A company might claim to use a certain form of vitamin or mineral because it is effective. However, when analyzed, it's discovered that a less effective form was actually used. A claim of a certain potency level may be made, but upon analysis tablets are found to contain less than the amount stated on the label. An herbal product may be made from a part of the plant that has no therapeutic benefit, because this part of the plant is available to the manufacturer more cheaply and readily than a competitor's effective, but more expensive product. The FDA doesn't require expirations dates on supplements bottles so many companies don't provide one. You should always look for an expiration date. While some nutrients, such as calcium, have a shelf life of several years, others like vitamins B and C are relatively unstable and have a shorter life. Stores should throw them out, but many leave them on the shelf, hoping to avoid financial loss by selling them to consumers who don't check expiration dates. Vitamins ideally should be stored ina cool, dry place with the cap tightly closed. A moist environment will degrade the product over time and you may notice color changes so it is not a good idea to store vitamins in the refrigerator or bathroom cabinet (other than fish, flax or vitamin E soft gels, which should be refrigerated..) Some companies add polyunsaturated vegetable oils as fillers. These oils oxidize quickly and produce free radicals, which cancel out the vitamin's antioxidant powers. Natural vitamin E is available, although sometimes in short supply. Use natural over synthetic whenever possible. In 1991, J.B. Doraro, president of the council for responsible nutrition (CRN) a Washington, DC-based industry association, testified before the FDA that a national government survey showed that not a single person out of more than 22,000 surveyed got 100 percent of the RDI for 10 nutrients from diet alone. Even if your diet is nutritionally sound, there are many other stress-inducing factors attacking your body-air pollution, noise, chemicals, and processed foods. Even " fresh " vegetables and fruit, lost nutrients during shipping and storage. Fresh produce that has been stored for several days or weeks often has fewer nutrients than frozen food stored under proper conditions. A 1983 study in France showed that the vitamin C content of potatoes decreased by 50 percent after being stored for three months in the dark at 12 C. The bottom line is, you won't get optimal nutrient intake from food alone. All this doesn't mean that supplements make up for junk food or the detrimental effects of sugar, bad oils, soft drinks, food additives or fast foods. They do not take the place of clean air, adequate sleep and exercises. They are adjuncts to an appropriate self-care health program. I have been taking copious amounts of antioxidant supplements for 25 years based on the evidence that hundreds of studies have confirmed the connection between antioxidants and free radicals. Your body requires oxygen to produce energy, but this process generates free radicals that attack and damage the individual cells in your body and bring on accelerated degeneration and disease, including cancer, heart disease, and cataracts. Vitamin C and E and beta-carotene (or vitamin A) protect you from this " dark side " of oxygen. Here's a simple way to witness for yourself the protective power of antioxidants with this in-home, family scientific experiment. Crush a 500 mg tablet of vitamin C. Cut an apple in half and immediately spread a thick coat of the powdered vitamin C on the cut side of one half. Leave the other half alone. Let both halves sit side by side and in just a few minutes you will see that the unprotected half turns brown as it reacts with oxygen in the air. The half protected by the vitamin C remains white and fresh. Antioxidants have the same effect inside your body. If you aren't already supplementing routinely with antioxidants, it is never too late to start. This article is followed by a chart in which Centrum and One-A-Day vitamins are lowest on the list! From the booklet " The Only Vitamin Guide You'll ever Need. " By Julian Whitaker. M.D. JoAnn Guest joguest Friendsforhealthnaturally http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html theaimcompanies " Health is not a Medical Issue " ------ End of Forwarded Message ------ JoAnn Guest joguest Friendsforhealthnaturally http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html theaimcompanies " Health is not a Medical Issue " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 - " JoAnn Guest " <joguest Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:15 PM [FWD: How Much is Your Health Worth] > ------ Start of Forwarded Message ------ > JoAnn Guest <joguest > Wed, 6 Mar 2002 22:05:52 +0000 > Melanoma > How Much is Your Health Worth > > > How Much is your Health Worth? > > The first thing that concerns people when they think of supplements is > the expense. You may already be spending a lot on your health care > needs. Here's something to consider though. How much are you currently > spending on prescriptions and over the counter drugs each month? Then > ask how much you could save if you were able to stop those medications? > Most prescription drugs are expensive and my guess is that the savings > would be significant. I have no idea what would be possible for others, but I can talk about my own situation. I have used supplements all my life & have managed to avoid both over the counter & prescription drugs except for brief periods. I am 58 years old & currently spend about $200 a month on vitamins & supplements. When I was younger, I spent less than $50/month for vitamins. I spend $0 on prescription drugs & about $10 a year on throat lozenges (my only over the counter remedy). At various times in the past, I have spent as much as $100/year on prescriptions & a lot more on cold remedies (maybe $200/year) until I figured out how to eat better & take more supplements. Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 --- Alobar, Supplemental vitamins and minerals have been an essential part of my recovery, although I really was shocked to find that many of them do not contain more of the ingredients listed on the labels and have so many fillers and oils included. Seems that John Q. Public is being hoodwinked. I'd love to see more expiration dates included and more honesty in labeling but just can't see the FDA meddling with my supplements any more than they are right at the moment. I congratulate you on your drug-free status. I too have been drug- free for as long as I can remember. It is a good feeling, isn't it? It's SO pathetic that the AMA has convinced so many to rely on these harmful chemicals when there is a better way. Drugs in actuality are only a way to suppress the symptoms rather than offer any *cures*. As long as the pharmaceutical companies can keep tight rein over the health-care in this country, there isn't much that can be done except spread the word to those who are willing to try alternative rather than allopathic. It is ironic really. How much is one willing to pay for one single solitary prescription? Lots! But when it comes to vitamins we think only of the out of pocket cost and tend to forget about the benefits involved. Yes I agree...diet and especially an organic diet is very beneficial!! I've gone almost entirely organic within the past year and the health benefits are tremendous! No more BGH compromising my immune system! LOL Well, that's just my two cents worth. Have a great day and good luck with it all... JoAnn Guest joguest Friendsforhealthnaturally http://canceranswer.homestead.com/Melanoma.html " Alobar " <alobar@b...> wrote: > > How Much is Your Health Worth > > The first thing that concerns people when they think of supplements is > > the expense. have spent as much as $100/year on prescriptions & a lot more on cold > remedies (maybe $200/year) until I figured out how to eat better & take more > supplements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 - " mrsjoguest " <joguest Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:18 AM Re: [FWD: How Much is Your Health Worth] > --- Alobar, > > Supplemental vitamins and minerals have been an essential part of > my recovery, although I really was shocked to find that many of them > do not contain more of the ingredients listed on the labels and have > so many fillers and oils included. > Seems that John Q. Public is being hoodwinked. I'd love to see more > expiration dates included and more honesty in labeling but just can't > see the FDA meddling with my supplements any more than they are right > at the moment. > I congratulate you on your drug-free status. I too have been drug- > free for as long as I can remember. It is a good feeling, isn't it? > It's SO pathetic that the AMA has convinced so many to rely on > these harmful chemicals when there is a better way. > > Drugs in actuality are only a way to suppress the symptoms rather > than offer any *cures*. As long as the pharmaceutical companies can > keep tight rein over the health-care in this country, there isn't > much that can be done except spread the word to those who are willing > to try alternative rather than allopathic. > It is ironic really. How much is one willing to pay for one single > solitary prescription? Lots! But when it comes to vitamins we think > only of the out of pocket cost and tend to forget about the benefits > involved. > Yes I agree...diet and especially an organic diet is very beneficial!! > I've gone almost entirely organic within the past year and the health > benefits are tremendous! No more BGH compromising my immune system! > LOL > > Well, that's just my two cents worth. Have a great day and good luck > with it all... > > JoAnn Guest One of the real scary things I noticed when I was taking the diabetes meds is that I lost the feedback loop between what I ate & how that effected my blood glucose levels. Let me give you an example: While on the meds, I got in the habit of eating a small baked potato nearly every day & as it did not spike my blood glucose levels, I figured the potato was ok to eat. But after I got off the meds, I noticed pretty quick that a baked potato (even a small one) did indeed spike my glucose levels. As you said above -- the meds masked the symptom of spiked sugar levels. I could have gone months or even years stressing my pancreas with potato & remained oblivious that my diet was doing me harm. Without the meds, I figured out that I should cut potatoes out of my daily diet. And I figured it out in less than 2 months. Now that I know how to look more carefully at my blood glucose levels & relate my readings back to my diet, sleep patterns, stress levels, etc., I am learning much more quickly what is good for me & what I need to avoid. To put it another way, the meds' ability to bring down blood glucose spikes allowed me to eat the wrong foods with no apparent short term consequences -- so the meds encouraged me to eat foods not good for me. And doctors wonder why so many diabetics cheat on their diets?!? Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2002 Report Share Posted March 8, 2002 --- Alobar, I think you've outlined pretty well one of the main reasons drugs are so dangerous. It is my belief that few people actually realize the dangers and are prone to believe that these drugs are someday going to completely alleviate their problems. Nothing could be farther from the truth as you and I well know. Drugs give one a sense of well-being that simply doesn't exist so why wouldn't they cheat? Some say that fiber is beneficial in controlling diabetes.... and most Americans only consume around 15 to 20% when we should be taking in at least 40% or more. Vanadium and chromium picolinate combined with Vitamin E and selenium are also good. One little booklet I read not too long ago related that green beans help to restore one's pancreas. might very well be true. JoAnn Guest joguest Friendsforhealthnaturally http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html Gettingwell, " Alobar " <alobar@b...> wrote: > > Drugs in actuality are only a way to suppress the symptoms rather > > than offer any *cures*. ....the meds masked the symptom of spiked sugar levels To put it another way, the meds' ability to bring > down blood glucose spikes allowed me to eat the wrong foods with no apparent > short term consequences -- so the meds encouraged me to eat foods not good > for me. And doctors wonder why so many diabetics cheat on their diets?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2002 Report Share Posted March 8, 2002 In a message dated 7/3/02 21:59:45 GMT Standard Time, alobar writes: > . To put it another way, the meds' ability to bring > down blood glucose spikes allowed me to eat the wrong foods with no > apparent > short term consequences -- so the meds encouraged me to eat foods not good > for me. And doctors wonder why so many diabetics cheat on their diets?!? > Put like this has finally brought home to me what meds do to one and I have been as guilty as anyone of eating something that I would not have been able to eat without meds - never even thinking about the consequences. I once heard a very popular doctor on the TV tell someone to take meds for high cholesterol, he said - " I do and can now eat whatever I want " - I did think at the time it was not a responsible comment - now I know that it was in fact signing the death warrant for some. Thanks for putting it into perspective. Marianne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2002 Report Share Posted March 8, 2002 - <marianne2406 Friday, March 08, 2002 6:05 AM Re: Re: [FWD: How Much is Your Health Worth] > In a message dated 7/3/02 21:59:45 GMT Standard Time, alobar > writes: > > > > . To put it another way, the meds' ability to bring > > down blood glucose spikes allowed me to eat the wrong foods with no > > apparent > > short term consequences -- so the meds encouraged me to eat foods not good > > for me. And doctors wonder why so many diabetics cheat on their diets?!? > > > > Put like this has finally brought home to me what meds do to one and I have > been as guilty as anyone of eating something that I would not have been able > to eat without meds - never even thinking about the consequences. I once > heard a very popular doctor on the TV tell someone to take meds for high > cholesterol, he said - " I do and can now eat whatever I want " - I did think > at the time it was not a responsible comment - now I know that it was in fact > signing the death warrant for some. Thanks for putting it into perspective. > > Marianne > I do feel I should also talk about the benefits of meds. When one's body is grossly out of whack & one does not know how to bring it back to balance (or is working on it but is not there yet) then taking meds can keep one going. Meds have probably saved or prolonged many many lives. It is just that many docs & patients see the meds as a life-long solution, rather than as a first-aide treatment while looking for a real solution. Alobar PS One big side effect of the meds I was on (glyburide) is that it made me stupid. My reflexes got poor. I shuffled when I walked instead of striding. I felt frightened & much older than I really am. Driving in heavy traffic was scary. While I was on the meds I felt rather powerless to affect change in my life. I am not saying the pharm companies did this on purpose, but the effect of (at least) some meds is to make patients feel powerless & therefore more dependant on the docs & the meds. So if one must go on meds for a while, I'd say keep a careful list of all the side effects, whether the docs acknowledge them or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2002 Report Share Posted March 9, 2002 Alobar - I agree and have not totally given up my meds because I am not yet 'cured' and get the breathlessness back if I don't take them - yes I did try to come off them totally but it didn't work because I was a bit hasty in that decision. I have however, cut right back on the meds that I take - alternating between diltiazem and candesartan (amias) and completely removing HRT and aspirin from the equation as I feel they are doing more harm than good. I know that until I have cleared my arteries and got my throid working normally that the 2 meds I am taking are assisting in restoring blood flow to the heart and keeping the blood pressure down so will continue until I no longer get breathless and gradually cut them out altogether. Marianne > > > I do feel I should also talk about the benefits of meds. When > one's > body is grossly out of whack & one does not know how to bring it back to > balance (or is working on it but is not there yet) then taking meds can > keep > one going. Meds have probably saved or prolonged many many lives. It is > just that many docs & patients see the meds as a life-long solution, rather > than as a first-aide treatment while looking for a real solution. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2002 Report Share Posted March 12, 2002 --- Alobar, The effects you just described I believe to be one of the prime factors in aging. The docs were ready to make a list of my prescriptions drugs when going in for my cyst removal last year. It was worth it to see the surprise on their faces when I revealed I was not taking one single solitary drug. I experienced the same effects from the drugs during and following surgery. The debilitating effects of drugs can inadvertently cause other sickness. The sad fact is that some drugs which are only suppposed to be prescribed for the short-term are taken over an extensive period of time. When one reads that drugs taken as prescribed are the third leading cause of death, one begins to wonder. The info is on Dr. whitaker's site. The pity of it is that many people think cholesterol drugs protect them from having a heart attack. If you continue to read on in the fine print, you will discover the truth. It's in the fine print at the bottom of the TV commercial.:-) JoAnn Guest joguest Friendsforhealthnaturally http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html > > > . To put it another way, the meds' ability to bring > > > down blood glucose spikes allowed me to eat the wrong foods And doctors wonder why so many diabetics cheat on their > diets?!? > > heard a very popular doctor on the TV tell someone to take meds for high > > cholesterol, he said - " I do and can now eat whatever I want " - I > One big side effect of the meds I was on (glyburide) is that it made me > stupid. My reflexes got poor. I shuffled when I walked instead of > striding. I felt frightened & much older than I really am. > > So if one must go on meds for a while, I'd say keep a careful list > of all the side effects, whether the docs acknowledge them or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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