update on my mom + a couple questions

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Rob is it better to take mag in the eve?

donna

In a message dated 2/16/02 8:52:49 PM, rob.bartlett writes:

 

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Magnesium has to be one of, or THE, best supplement to take for high blood

pressure and insomnia. Take a 1:1 calcium:magnesium supplement with

magnesium in an " ate " form (like magnesium citrate). Take about 600 - 750

mg of each daily.

 

Rob >>

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Hi everyone,

Thanks again for all of your help last week when I was so distraught

about my mom's situation. My mom saw a new doctor last Thursday, and

he thinks he can help her get off of the blood pressure medication.

He pointed out that 2.5mg of Zestril (lisinoprol[?]) is a very tiny

dosage, and that her blood pressure (153-159/78-83) isn't all that

high. Given how much my mom has suffered, I'm appalled that we

didn't try this sooner. The sleeping pills really complicated

things, of course. And everyone is so shrill about about blood

pressure. " Once you're on it, you're on it for life, " all of my mom's

previous doctors have told her.

 

At any rate, this doctor told my mom to try to walk 45 minutes a day

(currently she only manages about 20 b/c of deep exhaustion from

sleeplessness and sleeping pill withdrawal), and to take garlic and

potassium supplements. He also wants her to have some blood work

done. Then, in a couple of weeks, she is to begin taking her bp

medication every other day rather than every day, and then after

another couple of weeks she's to discontinue it entirely. Our hope

is that at this point her sleep will come back. The last time she

took herself off of bp medication (out of sheer despair and without

telling anyone) it took about two weeks for her sleep to come back.

If her sleep comes back again this time, then that should on its own

bring her blood pressure down a little. Then she can walk more, etc.

etc. This is the best case scenario, of course. I must confess that

after all of these years it is very hard for me to imagine my mother

actually being well again.

 

Now for for my questions:

1) What do you all think of the prescription potassium supplement

Micro-K? This is what her new doctor has asked her to take.

According to the pharmacist, the time-release capsules provide a

steady supply of potassium chloride, which makes it more dependable

than diet alone.

But according to my mom's copy of the People's Pharmacy, it can have

all kinds of horrible side effects (mostly stomach stuff-- ulcers,

nausea, diarrhea, etc..) Since my mom inevitably falls into that

unlucky group that experiences side effects, she is understandably

reluctant to take these potassium pills. She has also pointed out to

me that a book I bought for her entitled " The K Factor " argues

against potassium supplements; it maintains that a potassium rich

diet

provides adequate potassium. My mom is already eating a potassium

rich diet.

 

2) I realize how crazy this sounds, but ever since all of her

troubles began, my mom has also had a very hard time with blood

tests. The purpose of the test she's about to go in for is, I

believe, to check for vitamin deficiencies and that sort of thing.

Could the same be accomplished with a different kind of test? Hair

analysis, for example?

 

If anyone has any thoughts on either of these matters, I'd really

appreciate hearing from you! I apologize if these questions sound

basic or stupid. Mom and I have been trying over the past few years

to read a lot and educate ourselves about health matters, but it's

really hard to process all of the information.

 

Thanks,

Veronica

[Guest guest]

> If anyone has any thoughts on either of these matters, I'd really

> appreciate hearing from you!

 

Veronica,

 

Magnesium has to be one of, or THE, best supplement to take for high blood

pressure and insomnia. Take a 1:1 calcium:magnesium supplement with

magnesium in an " ate " form (like magnesium citrate). Take about 600 - 750

mg of each daily.

 

Rob

[Guest guest]

> Rob is it better to take mag in the eve?

 

donna,

 

In general, yes, because it has a muscle relaxing effect. However, its best

to take the 600 - 750 mg per day in divided doses, which usually means 3

capsules/day, one after each meal.

 

Rob

--------------------

> Magnesium has to be one of, or THE, best supplement to take for high blood

> pressure and insomnia. Take a 1:1 calcium:magnesium supplement with

> magnesium in an " ate " form (like magnesium citrate). Take about 600 - 750

> mg of each daily.

>

> Rob >>

[Guest guest]

Hi Veronica,

 

I think it is very important to have some tests done first before

your doctor arbitrarily treats a supposed deficiency and possibly

causes more problems.

There are both hair and urinalysis tests for mineral deficiency.

Normal blood lab tests for mineral deficiencies are inaccurate and

will only show gross deficiencies. Your body has an innate ability

to pull minerals from the rest of your tissues and bone to keep serum

levels adequate for your primary body functions - but you are robbing

Peter to pay Paul and sooner or later Peter dies. Blood work is

the best way to check for serum vitamin levels.

If your doctor doesn't recognize these types of tests you can

order them from the same labs yourself without him. I have done this

and can give you the info. I also have a good alternative doctor in

Encinitas that specializes more in finding out what the underlying

problems are.

 

There is a lot involved with this issue I cannot cover here.

Since you are local give me a call if you want more info. You know

me as TK on the AF board, I live in Santee, CA. Send me a private e-

mail if you are interested.

 

 

 

TK

 

 

Gettingwell, " veronica_delk " <veronica_delk@h...> wrote:

> Hi everyone,

> Thanks again for all of your help last week when I was so

distraught

> about my mom's situation. My mom saw a new doctor last Thursday,

and

> he thinks he can help her get off of the blood pressure

medication.

> He pointed out that 2.5mg of Zestril (lisinoprol[?]) is a very tiny

> dosage, and that her blood pressure (153-159/78-83) isn't all that

> high. Given how much my mom has suffered, I'm appalled that we

> didn't try this sooner. The sleeping pills really complicated

> things, of course. And everyone is so shrill about about blood

> pressure. " Once you're on it, you're on it for life, " all of my

mom's

> previous doctors have told her.

>

> At any rate, this doctor told my mom to try to walk 45 minutes a

day

> (currently she only manages about 20 b/c of deep exhaustion from

> sleeplessness and sleeping pill withdrawal), and to take garlic and

> potassium supplements. He also wants her to have some blood work

> done. Then, in a couple of weeks, she is to begin taking her bp

> medication every other day rather than every day, and then after

> another couple of weeks she's to discontinue it entirely. Our hope

> is that at this point her sleep will come back. The last time she

> took herself off of bp medication (out of sheer despair and without

> telling anyone) it took about two weeks for her sleep to come

back.

> If her sleep comes back again this time, then that should on its

own

> bring her blood pressure down a little. Then she can walk more,

etc.

> etc. This is the best case scenario, of course. I must confess

that

> after all of these years it is very hard for me to imagine my

mother

> actually being well again.

>

> Now for for my questions:

> 1) What do you all think of the prescription potassium supplement

> Micro-K? This is what her new doctor has asked her to take.

> According to the pharmacist, the time-release capsules provide a

> steady supply of potassium chloride, which makes it more dependable

> than diet alone.

> But according to my mom's copy of the People's Pharmacy, it can

have

> all kinds of horrible side effects (mostly stomach stuff-- ulcers,

> nausea, diarrhea, etc..) Since my mom inevitably falls into that

> unlucky group that experiences side effects, she is understandably

> reluctant to take these potassium pills. She has also pointed out

to

> me that a book I bought for her entitled " The K Factor " argues

> against potassium supplements; it maintains that a potassium rich

> diet

> provides adequate potassium. My mom is already eating a potassium

> rich diet.

>

> 2) I realize how crazy this sounds, but ever since all of her

> troubles began, my mom has also had a very hard time with blood

> tests. The purpose of the test she's about to go in for is, I

> believe, to check for vitamin deficiencies and that sort of thing.

> Could the same be accomplished with a different kind of test? Hair

> analysis, for example?

>

> If anyone has any thoughts on either of these matters, I'd really

> appreciate hearing from you! I apologize if these questions sound

> basic or stupid. Mom and I have been trying over the past few

years

> to read a lot and educate ourselves about health matters, but it's

> really hard to process all of the information.

>

> Thanks,

> Veronica

[Guest guest]

Julia Ross, author of " The Diet Cure " says take magnesium in the morning and

calcium at night. It should be chelated, especially the magnesium. It

could cause diarrhea if it's not chelated and you don't want that,

especially if she's got low potassium.

Henrietta

 

 

Rob Bartlett [rob.bartlett]

Saturday, February 16, 2002 6:37 PM

Gettingwell

Re: update on my mom + a couple questions

 

 

> Rob is it better to take mag in the eve?

 

donna,

 

In general, yes, because it has a muscle relaxing effect. However, its best

to take the 600 - 750 mg per day in divided doses, which usually means 3

capsules/day, one after each meal.

 

Rob

--------------------

> Magnesium has to be one of, or THE, best supplement to take for high blood

> pressure and insomnia. Take a 1:1 calcium:magnesium supplement with

> magnesium in an " ate " form (like magnesium citrate). Take about 600 - 750

> mg of each daily.

>

> Rob >>

 

 

 

 

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--- There are various forms of magnesium which tend to have a

laxative effect. Magnesium Oxide has the least laxative effect of any

that I've found.

 

JoAnn Guest

joguest

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http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/Magnesium.html

 

In Gettingwell, hcolwell@d... wrote:

> Julia Ross, author of " The Diet Cure " says take magnesium in the

morning and

> calcium at night. It should be chelated, especially the

magnesium. It

> could cause diarrhea if it's not chelated and you don't want that,

> especially if she's got low potassium.

> Henrietta

>

>

> Rob Bartlett [rob.bartlett@s...]

> Saturday, February 16, 2002 6:37 PM

> Gettingwell

> Re: update on my mom + a couple questions

>

>

> > Rob is it better to take mag in the eve?

>

> donna,

>

> In general, yes, because it has a muscle relaxing effect. However,

its best

> to take the 600 - 750 mg per day in divided doses, which usually

means 3

> capsules/day, one after each meal.

>

> Rob

> --------------------

> > Magnesium has to be one of, or THE, best supplement to take for

high blood

> > pressure and insomnia. Take a 1:1 calcium:magnesium supplement

with

> > magnesium in an " ate " form (like magnesium citrate). Take about

600 - 750

> > mg of each daily.

> >

> > Rob >>

>

>

>

>

> Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health

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