Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 I need some help to find a simple slolution for a diabetic sore my mom has on her foot. I gave her some Braggs vinegar but it isnt working- should we try colloidal silver? I asked what her doctor said He isnt concerned .It has been lke this for months and she lives wiht it.I t is infected and I am afraid that if I dont do something she many lose her foot someday It isnt a very big place but neosporin is what she was told to use and it hasnt helped thanks donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 --- Donna, I've found that tea tree oil and aloe vera (100%) have been helpful. Comfrey might do the trick. Comfrey salve is available at most hfs. Chromium picolinate,vitamin E (1,000 mgs daily) vanadium ,fenugreek and alfalfa help with glucose management. God Bless, JoAnn JoAnn Guest joguest Friendsforhealthnaturally http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html dfnewman@a... wrote: > I need some help to find a simple slolution for a diabetic sore my mom has on > her foot. I gave her some Braggs vinegar but it isnt working- should we try > colloidal silver? I asked what her doctor said > He isnt concerned .It has been lke this for months and she lives wiht it.I > t is infected and I am afraid that if I dont do something she many lose her > foot someday It isnt a very big place but neosporin is what she was told > to use and it hasnt helped > thanks > donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 Hi Donna, If the problem is due to blood circulation to the foot then cayenne pepper is strongly advised. It has saved even a gangrenous foot. Ron http://www.alternative-healthzine.com/html/0110_2.html An excerpt : " Blood and Circulation Cayenne stimulates blood flow - instantly. It dilates arterial walls and cuts through mucus in the veins, thus increasing circulation to the extremities and helping overall to lower blood pressure. It strengthens the heart, arteries, capillaries and the nerves. " _____________ Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com <> > > dfnewman > 2/7/2002 8:05:16 AM > essentiallove > diabetic sores > > > > > > I need some help to find a simple slolution for a diabetic sore my mom has on > > her foot. I gave her some Braggs vinegar but it isnt working- should we try > > colloidal silver? I asked what her doctor said > > He isnt concerned .It has been lke this for months and she lives wiht it.I > > t is infected and I am afraid that if I dont do something she many lose her > > foot someday It isnt a very big place but neosporin is what she was told > > to use and it hasnt helped > > thanks > > donna > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > > and well being. > > > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > > Subscription and list archives are at: > > Gettingwell > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 Thanks. In a message dated 2/7/02 12:23:56 PM, joguest writes: << --- Donna, I've found that tea tree oil and aloe vera (100%) have been helpful. Comfrey might do the trick. Comfrey salve is available at most hfs. Chromium picolinate,vitamin E (1,000 mgs daily) vanadium ,fenugreek and alfalfa help with glucose management. God Bless, >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 JoAnn What would be the best form to take Cayenne Pepper in, for circulation improvement? John P. - " mrsjoguest " <joguest Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:20 AM Re: diabetic sores > --- Donna, > I've found that tea tree oil and aloe vera (100%) have been > helpful. Comfrey might do the trick. Comfrey salve is available at > most hfs. Chromium picolinate,vitamin E (1,000 mgs daily) > vanadium ,fenugreek and alfalfa help with glucose management. > God Bless, > JoAnn > > JoAnn Guest > joguest > Friendsforhealthnaturally > http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html > > dfnewman@a... wrote: > > I need some help to find a simple slolution for a diabetic sore my > mom has on > > her foot. I gave her some Braggs vinegar but it isnt working- > should we try > > colloidal silver? I asked what her doctor said > > He isnt concerned .It has been lke this for months and she lives > wiht it.I > > t is infected and I am afraid that if I dont do something she many > lose her > > foot someday It isnt a very big place but neosporin is what she > was told > > to use and it hasnt helped > > thanks > > donna > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > and well being. > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > Subscription and list archives are at: > Gettingwell > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 > > > > dfnewman@a... wrote: > > > I need some help to find a simple slolution for a diabetic sore my > > mom has on > > > her foot. I gave her some Braggs vinegar but it isnt working- > > should we try > > > colloidal silver? I asked what her doctor said > > > He isnt concerned .It has been lke this for months and she lives > > wiht it.I > > > t is infected and I am afraid that if I dont do something she many > > lose her > > > foot someday It isnt a very big place but neosporin is what she > > was told > > > to use and it hasnt helped > > > thanks > > > donna A Doctor by the name of Gerald Sunnen has a patent on treating diabetic ulcers with ozone bagging or funneling. YOu can find his information on the net under search terms " Sunnen and Ozone " from google.com. I have also read of results with ozonated olive oil. It is a very inexpensive treatment to used the oil. Equipment to do bagging can be a little costly generators running about 1250 and up. One other thing that may help and I have used this treatment for years for chronic fatigue and viral induced cirrhosis, is to take baths in one pint of h2o2 at 35%. Work great for me and very clean feeling. Ischemia (poor circulation, lack of oxygen and glucose ultilization) causes the diabetic ulcers, so, the treatment seems obvious enough. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 --- I would think the liquid extracts and/or capsules would be the best for circulation in terms of effectiveness, but then again perhaps not everyone could handle it, especially any with IBS or related problems. I've found this to be true in my case with ginger supplements, that's why I prefer ginger as an infusion or in foods rather than as a food supplement (again,for fluid arteries) and I wouldn't be w/o it on a daily basis. Then again you will find that foods have benefits that just don't exist with supplements. :-) I think that if I were troubled at the moment with blockage or with impaired circulation, I would undoubtedly try to obtain it in more than one form. I believe the following statement to be true of ginger and cayenne also... * " Research has confirmed the benefits of carrots, which contain high doses of beta-carotene and vitamin A. Scientists have bottled these 'magic' potions into pills they say we can pop to keep our hearts healthy and prevent cancer. But there's more to a carrot than betacarotene! There are substances called carotenoids, which you won't find in mass-produced vitamins. You only find these in fresh, raw carrots! " Cheers, JoAnn " John Polifronio " <counterpnt@e...> wrote: > JoAnn > What would be the best form to take Cayenne Pepper in, for circulation > improvement? > John P. > - > " mrsjoguest " <joguest@m...> > <Gettingwell> > Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:20 AM > Re: diabetic sores > > > > --- Donna, > > I've found that tea tree oil and aloe vera (100%) have been > > helpful. Comfrey might do the trick. Comfrey salve is available at > > most hfs. Chromium picolinate,vitamin E (1,000 mgs daily) > > vanadium ,fenugreek and alfalfa help with glucose management. > > God Bless, > > JoAnn > > > > JoAnn Guest > > joguest@m... > > Friendsforhealthnaturally > > http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html > > > > dfnewman@a... wrote: > > > I need some help to find a simple slolution for a diabetic sore my > > mom has on > > > her foot. I gave her some Braggs vinegar but it isnt working- > > should we try > > > colloidal silver? I asked what her doctor said > > > He isnt concerned .It has been lke this for months and she lives > > wiht it.I > > > t is infected and I am afraid that if I dont do something she many > > lose her > > > foot someday It isnt a very big place but neosporin is what she > > was told > > > to use and it hasnt helped > > > thanks > > > donna > > > > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > > and well being. > > > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > > Subscription and list archives are at: > > Gettingwell > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 In a message dated 7/2/02 16:23:55 GMT Standard Time, joguest writes: JoAnn - do you think this would be any good for my friends 80 year old mother - she has alcerated leg which is getting worse do to lack of mobility? Thanks Marianne > I've found that tea tree oil and aloe vera (100%) have been > helpful. Comfrey might do the trick. Comfrey salve is available at > most hfs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 Thanks for the discussion. I've not tried cayenne or ginger in the form of liquid extracts. I'll give it a try. I'm not sure how much cayenne (or ginger) as food directly eaten, is necessary to achieve a more therapeutic effect in aiding people with compromised circulation; but I'll continue experimenting to find out. Both cayenne and ginger are extremely potent ingredients or additions to foods and recipes. John P. - " mrsjoguest " <joguest Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:02 PM Re: diabetic sores > --- I would think the liquid extracts and/or capsules would be the > best for circulation in terms of effectiveness, but then again > perhaps not everyone could handle it, especially any with IBS or > related problems. I've found this to be true in my case with ginger > supplements, that's why I prefer ginger as an infusion or in foods > rather than as a food supplement (again,for fluid arteries) and I > wouldn't be w/o it on a daily basis. Then again you will find that > foods have benefits that just don't exist with supplements. :-) I > think that if I were troubled at the moment with blockage or with > impaired circulation, I would undoubtedly try to obtain it in more > than one form. I believe the following statement to be true of ginger > and cayenne also... > > * " Research has confirmed the benefits of carrots, which contain high > doses of beta-carotene and vitamin A. Scientists have bottled > these 'magic' potions into pills they say we can pop to keep our > hearts healthy and prevent cancer. But there's more to a carrot than > betacarotene! There are substances called carotenoids, which you > won't find in mass-produced vitamins. You only find these in fresh, > raw carrots! " > > Cheers, > JoAnn > > " John Polifronio " <counterpnt@e...> wrote: > > JoAnn > > What would be the best form to take Cayenne Pepper in, for > circulation > > improvement? > > John P. > > - > > " mrsjoguest " <joguest@m...> > > <Gettingwell> > > Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:20 AM > > Re: diabetic sores > > > > > > > --- Donna, > > > I've found that tea tree oil and aloe vera (100%) have been > > > helpful. Comfrey might do the trick. Comfrey salve is available at > > > most hfs. Chromium picolinate,vitamin E (1,000 mgs daily) > > > vanadium ,fenugreek and alfalfa help with glucose management. > > > God Bless, > > > JoAnn > > > > > > JoAnn Guest > > > joguest@m... > > > Friendsforhealthnaturally > > > http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html > > > > > > dfnewman@a... wrote: > > > > I need some help to find a simple slolution for a diabetic sore > my > > > mom has on > > > > her foot. I gave her some Braggs vinegar but it isnt working- > > > should we try > > > > colloidal silver? I asked what her doctor said > > > > He isnt concerned .It has been lke this for months and she > lives > > > wiht it.I > > > > t is infected and I am afraid that if I dont do something she > many > > > lose her > > > > foot someday It isnt a very big place but neosporin is what > she > > > was told > > > > to use and it hasnt helped > > > > thanks > > > > donna > > > > > > > > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building > health > > > and well being. > > > > > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > > > Subscription and list archives are at: > > > Gettingwell > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 Just a little warning about the liquid extract of cayenne -- YOW! It is VERY hot and spicy, and just one drop in a full glass of water is tough to take, at least in the brand I tried. I would suggest capsules for the cayenne! Debbie deb http://www.bodyhealthcenter.com > Thanks for the discussion. I've not tried cayenne or ginger in the form of > liquid extracts. I'll give it a try. > I'm not sure how much cayenne (or ginger) as food directly eaten, is > necessary to achieve a more therapeutic effect in aiding people with > compromised circulation; but I'll continue experimenting to find out. Both > cayenne and ginger are extremely potent ingredients or additions to foods > and recipes. > John P. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 I have some of Dr.Schulzes cayenne tincture it si hot!!!!!but it works... In a message dated 2/8/02 3:41:31 PM, joguest writes: << member that the herb Cayenne is a food is that is is capable of nourishing our heart. In the book " Capsicum " written by Dr. John Christopher,many different >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 --- Marianne, Is this due to diabetic problems or something else that she is deficient in. If it is infected I would soak it in Epsom salts immediately. Other than that the salves I mentioned might be helpful...I wouldn't guarantee that they would take it away though they might tend to soothe it. I do think the cayenne and ginger would help the circulation to the leg if taken in supplement form! See if you can get her to exercise it by moving even if it's from her chair...any exercise will help to get the circulation going again. you may email me with the specifics if you wish! JoAnn JoAnn Guest joguest Friendsforhealthnaturally http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html marianne2406@a... wrote: > In a message dated 7/2/02 16:23:55 GMT Standard Time, joguest@m... > writes: > > JoAnn - do you think this would be any good for my friends 80 year old mother > - she has alcerated leg which is getting worse do to lack of mobility? > Thanks > Marianne > > > I've found that tea tree oil and aloe vera (100%) have been > > helpful. Comfrey might do the trick. Comfrey salve is available at > > most hfs. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 At 06:23 PM 02/08/2002 +0000, you wrote: >--- Marianne, > Is this due to diabetic problems or something else that she is >deficient in. > If it is infected I would soak it in Epsom salts immediately. A diabetic friend of mine did this without supervision (he is 40, " shouldn't " have required supervision). The problem was that he couldn't really tell how hot the water was and ended up with 3rd degree burns on his feet. So be careful. Lori Lori Joyner http://Reachus.At/familyfreedomteam mailtto:familyfreedomtm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 ---Donna, Here's some things I found on Cayenne this morning. Thought I'd pass it on for you... Cayenne pepper in the field of western herbalism is considered a cure-all! It acts as a diaphoretic, antiseptic, tonic, rubefacient, carmative, anti-asthmatic, pain reliever, sialagugue, and is a powerful immune stimulant! Cayenne is widely used as a catalyst or potentiator in herbal formulas. It has antibacterial and antifungal affects and stimulates kidney enzyme activity. Cayenne can lower cholesterol levels, thin the blood, normalize blood pressure, and fight fatigue! It facilitates the whole digestive process as uncooked Cayenne is not irritating to the digestive system. It may surprise you to learn that Cayenne is used as a herb in it's dry powdered form. Only when it is cooked, is it a major irritant to the digestive tract. The adverse effects of prescription drugs and their rally recalls the wwords of Sir Francis Bacon, " Cure the disease, kill the patient. " Cayenne, used internally or externally is renowned for it's ability to aid circulation. One study found that half of all heart patients were nutritionally deficient. It is important to remember that the herb Cayenne is a food is that is is capable of nourishing our heart. In the book " Capsicum " written by Dr. John Christopher,many different varieties of Cayenne pepper have been studied for their medicinal benefits. Of all the varieties studied, African Birdeye peppers were found to retain heat in the body longer than any other variety, therefore producint longer lasting health benefits. The heat of the various varieties of peppers is measured in units called Scoville units. From the green bell pepper with a Scoville rating of -0-, the peppers are ranked up through the Habanero or Scotch Bonnet peppers with heat ratings of several hundred thousand Scoville units, or the hottest peppers known to man. Cayenne appears to be a therapeutic herbs for many ailments. Researchers at West Virginia University and Loma Linda University school of medicine found that Cayenne may even protect against cancer. Capsaicin prevents the liver from turning certain compounds such as aflatoxins, found in peanut butter, into carcinogens. In Great Britain and Japan, researchers found that Cayenne can cause the body to burn up to 25% more calories in a day than it normally would. A recent Japanese patent claims that Cayenne alkaloids are effective for treatment of liver disease. JoAnn dfnewman@a... wrote: > Thanks. > In a message dated 2/7/02 12:23:56 PM, joguest@m... writes: > > << --- Donna, > I've found that tea tree oil and aloe vera (100%) have been > helpful. Comfrey might do the trick. Comfrey salve is available at > most hfs. Chromium picolinate,vitamin E (1,000 mgs daily) > vanadium ,fenugreek and alfalfa help with glucose management. > God Bless, >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2002 Report Share Posted February 9, 2002 How about good old lemon juice. That is all i ever used on my 2 childrens sores when they were younger. Don't know what diabetic sores are like, but it wouldn't hurt to try it. Regards, Dorothy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 --- Do you take it? dfnewman@a... wrote: > I have some of Dr.Schulzes cayenne tincture it si hot!!!!!but it works... > In a message dated 2/8/02 3:41:31 PM, joguest@m... writes: > > << member that the herb Cayenne is a > food is that is is capable of nourishing our heart. > In the book " Capsicum " written by Dr. John Christopher,many different >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 --- Yikes, are you saying there was no feeling in his legs. Never thought of that. Lori <llclj@m...> wrote: > At 06:23 PM 02/08/2002 +0000, you wrote: > >--- Marianne, > > Is this due to diabetic problems or something else that she is > >deficient in. > > If it is infected I would soak it in Epsom salts immediately. > > A diabetic friend of mine did this without supervision (he is 40, > " shouldn't " have required supervision). The problem was that he couldn't > really tell how hot the water was and ended up with 3rd degree burns on his > feet. So be careful. > > Lori > > Lori Joyner > > http://Reachus.At/familyfreedomteam > mailtto:familyfreedomtm@m... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 In a message dated 8/2/02 19:42:02 GMT Standard Time, joguest writes: This was so informative JoAnn, I most definitely will try it for myself and hopefully I can get my friend's mother to try it as well. Marianne > It acts as a diaphoretic, antiseptic, tonic, rubefacient, > carmative, anti-asthmatic, pain reliever, sialagugue, and is a > powerful immune stimulant! Cayenne is widely used as a catalyst or > potentiator in herbal formulas. It has antibacterial and antifungal > affects and stimulates kidney enzyme activity. Cayenne can lower > cholesterol levels, thin the blood, normalize blood pressure, and > fight fatigue! It facilitates the whole digestive process as uncooked > Cayenne is not irritating to the digestive system. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 That is so awful, he made his problem worse whilst trying to natural clear it. I know that this lady would not take off her bandages to do anything like this so I will not worry about that. Thanks Marianne > A diabetic friend of mine did this without supervision (he is 40, > " shouldn't " have required supervision). The problem was that he couldn't > really tell how hot the water was and ended up with 3rd degree burns on his > > feet. So be careful. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2002 Report Share Posted February 12, 2002 I will pass this on but don't hold out much hope for her to do anything to help herself although she has no faith whatever in dr's. Marianne > Soaking doesn't require scalding hot water to achieve results. I > have had good results with a lukewarm mixture. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2002 Report Share Posted February 12, 2002 --- Marianne, Soaking doesn't require scalding hot water to achieve results. I have had good results with a lukewarm mixture. marianne2406@a... wrote: > That is so awful, he made his problem worse whilst trying to natural clear > it. I know that this lady would not take off her bandages to do anything > like this so I will not worry about that. Thanks > Marianne > > > > A diabetic friend of mine did this without supervision (he is 40, > > " shouldn't " have required supervision). The problem was that he couldn't > > really tell how hot the water was and ended up with 3rd degree burns on his > > > > feet. So be careful. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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