Guest guest Posted January 17, 2002 Report Share Posted January 17, 2002 Hi All, WHY does your body produce Mystric (c14:0) from glucose? Are the sat fat is bad fat crown suggesting mother nature got it so wrong? Mystric is the bodies starting point for the elongation and desaturation of fatty acids into other necessary forms. The only fatty acids it can't make are Omega 3 LNA and Omega 6 LA but your body only need 2 - 3 g of each. More is not necessarily better! Maybe if you set the LDL (actually VLDL) level, HDL level and LDL receptor numbers produced from Mystric as the reference level (as the body probably does) you will see that as chain length increases and or double bond numbers increases, the body progressively lowers LDL (actually VLDL) production, reduces LDL receptor (which remove LDL from circulation) numbers and raises HDL. Wonder why? Maybe the liver knows about the peroxidation issue (free radical attack of fatty acids) and as the possibility of peroxidation of the fatty acids carried in it's lipoprotein carriers (VLDL, IDL & LDL) increases, it lowers the total numbers of lipoprotein carriers in circulation by making less VLDL (which turns into IDL then LDL), raises LDL receptor numbers (to reduce circulation time and total numbers) and increases HDL (to transfer more anti-oxidant enzymes into the LDL) in an effort to reduce LDL oxidation, CVD occurrence and death. I would much rather have my limited anti-oxidant reserves guarding my cell membranes and DNA against free radical attack and undesired alteration rather that ridding shot gun inside LDL carriers, protecting plutonium like double bond fatty acids against free radical attack, resultant increased LDL oxidation and CVD progression. Feed the body un-natural high levels of mono and or poly double bond fatty acids, especially commercially processed RBD versions and the bodies peroxidation risk reduction system breaks down, LDL oxidation increases, CVD increases and death may follow. Expect in man's most recent past, never was the amount of monounsaturated or polyunsaturated fatty acids currently consumed naturally available. The Paleo body never had to deal with more than very small amounts of them, could not thus handle larger quantities and neither can the current one. Excess intake of RBD oils and fats, trans fats, hydrogenated fats and double bond rich mono / poly rich veggie oils have been shown to be highly involved in so many disease states. Maybe it's time for the penny to drop and a ground swell build against the onslaught and damage caused to our bodies by these commercial oil and fat producers. Think about it................... ======================== Good Health & Long Life, Greg Watson, http://optimalhealth.cia.com.au gowatson USDA database (food breakdown) http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/ PubMed (research papers) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi DWIDP (nutrient analysis) http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe Patch file for above http://www.walford.com/download/dwidp67u.exe KIM (omega analysis) http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2002 Report Share Posted January 17, 2002 The _Paleolithic Prescription_ by S. Body Eaton says that polyunsaturated fat accounts for ~32% of total fat from wild game. Do you consider that to be bad? If not, I assume you are just against unpaleolithic consumption of fats (ie. oils in general which aren't available in nature). Grassfed beef has a n6:n3 ration of 4:1 (perfect). Grainfed beef has a ratio of 99:1. If someone (most people in the western world and probably on this list) is eating grainfed beef then would you support consuming a bit more flaxseed than normal to account for the discrepancy? Here's the kicker. If wild game has 32% PUFA, and that's ok. Then, what's wrong with eating a little bit more walnuts, pumpkin seeds, or ground flaxseed in general, just making sure to stay away from *oils*? --Michael > Expect in man's most recent past, never was the amount of monounsaturated or polyunsaturated fatty acids currently > consumed naturally available. The Paleo body never had to deal with more than very small amounts of them, could not > thus handle larger quantities and neither can the current one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2002 Report Share Posted January 17, 2002 think about it... I can't even understand it Thanks anyway Greg LOL.... Tracy - " Greg Watson " <gowatson " Health coconut-info " <coconut-info > Thursday, 17 January 2002 13:24 Is Mystric (c14:0) the prime fatty acid? > Hi All, > > WHY does your body produce Mystric (c14:0) from glucose? Are the sat fat is bad fat crown suggesting mother nature got > it so wrong? Mystric is the bodies starting point for the elongation and desaturation of fatty acids into other > necessary forms. The only fatty acids it can't make are Omega 3 LNA and Omega 6 LA but your body only need 2 - 3 g of > each. More is not necessarily better! > > Maybe if you set the LDL (actually VLDL) level, HDL level and LDL receptor numbers produced from Mystric as the > reference level (as the body probably does) you will see that as chain length increases and or double bond numbers > increases, the body progressively lowers LDL (actually VLDL) production, reduces LDL receptor (which remove LDL from > circulation) numbers and raises HDL. > > Wonder why? > > Maybe the liver knows about the peroxidation issue (free radical attack of fatty acids) and as the possibility of > peroxidation of the fatty acids carried in it's lipoprotein carriers (VLDL, IDL & LDL) increases, it lowers the total > numbers of lipoprotein carriers in circulation by making less VLDL (which turns into IDL then LDL), raises LDL receptor > numbers (to reduce circulation time and total numbers) and increases HDL (to transfer more anti-oxidant enzymes into the > LDL) in an effort to reduce LDL oxidation, CVD occurrence and death. > > I would much rather have my limited anti-oxidant reserves guarding my cell membranes and DNA against free radical attack > and undesired alteration rather that ridding shot gun inside LDL carriers, protecting plutonium like double bond fatty > acids against free radical attack, resultant increased LDL oxidation and CVD progression. > > Feed the body un-natural high levels of mono and or poly double bond fatty acids, especially commercially processed RBD > versions and the bodies peroxidation risk reduction system breaks down, LDL oxidation increases, CVD increases and death > may follow. > > Expect in man's most recent past, never was the amount of monounsaturated or polyunsaturated fatty acids currently > consumed naturally available. The Paleo body never had to deal with more than very small amounts of them, could not > thus handle larger quantities and neither can the current one. > > Excess intake of RBD oils and fats, trans fats, hydrogenated fats and double bond rich mono / poly rich veggie oils have > been shown to be highly involved in so many disease states. Maybe it's time for the penny to drop and a ground swell > build against the onslaught and damage caused to our bodies by these commercial oil and fat producers. > > Think about it................... > > ======================== > Good Health & Long Life, > Greg Watson, http://optimalhealth.cia.com.au gowatson > USDA database (food breakdown) http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/ > PubMed (research papers) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi > DWIDP (nutrient analysis) http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe > Patch file for above http://www.walford.com/download/dwidp67u.exe > KIM (omega analysis) http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > and well being. > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > Subscription and list archives are at: > Gettingwell > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2002 Report Share Posted January 17, 2002 It may be that we can adjust to increased levels of these mono/poly fats, up to a point, in our diets, provided they're fresh and of high quality. One of the biggest problems with such foods as walnuts and pumpkin seeds, is the extremely high calorie levels, which can easily contribute to overweight, which is a serious problem by itself. - " medwards706 " <medwards706 Wednesday, January 16, 2002 6:54 PM Re: Is Mystric (c14:0) the prime fatty acid? > The _Paleolithic Prescription_ by S. Body Eaton says that > polyunsaturated fat accounts for ~32% of total fat from wild game. Do > you consider that to be bad? If not, I assume you are just against > unpaleolithic consumption of fats (ie. oils in general which aren't > available in nature). > > Grassfed beef has a n6:n3 ration of 4:1 (perfect). Grainfed beef has > a ratio of 99:1. If someone (most people in the western world and > probably on this list) is eating grainfed beef then would you support > consuming a bit more flaxseed than normal to account for the > discrepancy? > > Here's the kicker. If wild game has 32% PUFA, and that's ok. Then, > what's wrong with eating a little bit more walnuts, pumpkin seeds, or > ground flaxseed in general, just making sure to stay away from *oils*? > > --Michael > > > Expect in man's most recent past, never was the amount of > monounsaturated or polyunsaturated fatty acids currently > > consumed naturally available. The Paleo body never had to deal > with more than very small amounts of them, could not > > thus handle larger quantities and neither can the current one. > > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > and well being. > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > Subscription and list archives are at: > Gettingwell > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2002 Report Share Posted January 17, 2002 - " John Polifronio " <counterpnt Thursday, January 17, 2002 4:51 PM Re: Re: Is Mystric (c14:0) the prime fatty acid? > It may be that we can adjust to increased levels of these mono/poly fats, up > to a point, in our diets, provided they're fresh and of high quality. Yes, I suspect this is correct, provided there is adequate anti-oxidants around. However these double bond foods should be eaten with respect as to their double bond fat contents. > One > of the biggest problems with such foods as walnuts and pumpkin seeds, is the > extremely high calorie levels, which can easily contribute to overweight, > which is a serious problem by itself. Hi John, Yes again I suggest this is correct and the elevation of glucose from too many carbs or too many of the wrong type will also oxidize LDL by glucose. ======================== Good Health & Long Life, Greg Watson, http://optimalhealth.cia.com.au gowatson USDA database (food breakdown) http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/ PubMed (research papers) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi DWIDP (nutrient analysis) http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe Patch file for above http://www.walford.com/download/dwidp67u.exe KIM (omega analysis) http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2002 Report Share Posted January 17, 2002 Greg Another issue, we've not covered adequately, is the problem of rancidity in general, with oils of all kinds. I remember, when I first encountered the world of nutrition, in the books of Adelle Davis, a quasi-alternative doctor, she wrote that rancid fats were extremely destructive and dangerous to health, and that it took very little rancid fat/oil to cause serious disturbances in our bodies. I wrote to Barlean's, suggesting that they consider marketing flax-oil in 4oz containers, for a slightly higher per oz. price, than they charge per oz. for their 8oz containers. Hearing you talk about your view, that we should be very conservative in the quantity we consume of these easily oxidized oils, I'd be among the first to buy the 4oz container. I remember as a child, the bottles of oil, probably olive, that sat around the kitchen, not necessairly refrigerated, for months. I remember how badly these old bottles of oil smelled, but never had any idea how foolish this behavior was. Perhaps this olive oil wasn't rancid, but it sure smelled that way to me. John P. - " Greg Watson " <gowatson Thursday, January 17, 2002 1:02 AM Re: Re: Is Mystric (c14:0) the prime fatty acid? > - > " John Polifronio " <counterpnt > > Thursday, January 17, 2002 4:51 PM > Re: Re: Is Mystric (c14:0) the prime fatty acid? > > > > It may be that we can adjust to increased levels of these mono/poly fats, up > > to a point, in our diets, provided they're fresh and of high quality. > > Yes, I suspect this is correct, provided there is adequate anti-oxidants around. However these double bond foods should > be eaten with respect as to their double bond fat contents. > > > One > > of the biggest problems with such foods as walnuts and pumpkin seeds, is the > > extremely high calorie levels, which can easily contribute to overweight, > > which is a serious problem by itself. > > Hi John, > > Yes again I suggest this is correct and the elevation of glucose from too many carbs or too many of the wrong type will > also oxidize LDL by glucose. > > ======================== > Good Health & Long Life, > Greg Watson, http://optimalhealth.cia.com.au gowatson > USDA database (food breakdown) http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/ > PubMed (research papers) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi > DWIDP (nutrient analysis) http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe > Patch file for above http://www.walford.com/download/dwidp67u.exe > KIM (omega analysis) http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > and well being. > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > Subscription and list archives are at: > Gettingwell > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2002 Report Share Posted January 17, 2002 - " John Polifronio " <counterpnt Thursday, January 17, 2002 8:07 PM Re: Re: Is Mystric (c14:0) the prime fatty acid? > Greg > Another issue, we've not covered adequately, is the problem of rancidity in > general, with oils of all kinds. I remember, when I first encountered the > world of nutrition, in the books of Adelle Davis, a quasi-alternative > doctor, she wrote that rancid fats were extremely destructive and dangerous > to health, and that it took very little rancid fat/oil to cause serious > disturbances in our bodies. Hi John, Simple to fix. Don't buy manufactured oils rich in double bond mono and poly fatty acids. I like to get my Omega 3 EPA & DHA from fresh salmon and Omega 3 LNA from fresh ground flax. Then use non peroxidizable (well not much as it has a shelf life of 3 - 5 years and does not require refrigeration). The fish and coconut diet. Maybe those islanders really did have Paradise? More info on the page now: http://optimalhealth.cia.com.au/Peroxidatiion.htm Have a read of the poly paper. It is a eye opener and a heart / life saver. ======================== Good Health & Long Life, Greg Watson, http://optimalhealth.cia.com.au gowatson USDA database (food breakdown) http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/ PubMed (research papers) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi DWIDP (nutrient analysis) http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe Patch file for above http://www.walford.com/download/dwidp67u.exe KIM (omega analysis) http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2002 Report Share Posted January 17, 2002 Hi Greg How do you deal with the fact that, apparently, most salmon on the market, is " farmed " and not wild? This has been called to my attention, and has put a damper on my readiness to eat salmon as often as I'd like to. I've also been trying sardines, as well as tuna, of course. Also, in your last post, you left a sentence dangling: " Then use non-peroxidizable.......... " (?).......were you going to say flax-seed? Have you spent any time on the flax-oil chatlist? They promote the Dr. Budwig formula, against the major diseases, especially cancer and heart disease. She calls for the use of multiple spoons of flax oil, thoroughly mixed into cottage cheese; the latter for being rich in the sulphur amino acids, which she claims allows the flax-oil to, in some way I still do not fully understand, be fully utilized by the body. Your view of flax-oil use, would seem to stand, pretty much, in opposition to her protocol. - " Greg Watson " <gowatson Thursday, January 17, 2002 2:01 AM Re: Re: Is Mystric (c14:0) the prime fatty acid? > - > " John Polifronio " <counterpnt > > Thursday, January 17, 2002 8:07 PM > Re: Re: Is Mystric (c14:0) the prime fatty acid? > > > > Greg > > Another issue, we've not covered adequately, is the problem of rancidity in > > general, with oils of all kinds. I remember, when I first encountered the > > world of nutrition, in the books of Adelle Davis, a quasi-alternative > > doctor, she wrote that rancid fats were extremely destructive and dangerous > > to health, and that it took very little rancid fat/oil to cause serious > > disturbances in our bodies. > > Hi John, > > Simple to fix. Don't buy manufactured oils rich in double bond mono and poly fatty acids. > > I like to get my Omega 3 EPA & DHA from fresh salmon and Omega 3 LNA from fresh ground flax. Then use non peroxidizable > (well not much as it has a shelf life of 3 - 5 years and does not require refrigeration). > > The fish and coconut diet. Maybe those islanders really did have Paradise? > > More info on the page now: > http://optimalhealth.cia.com.au/Peroxidatiion.htm > > Have a read of the poly paper. It is a eye opener and a heart / life saver. > ======================== > Good Health & Long Life, > Greg Watson, http://optimalhealth.cia.com.au gowatson > USDA database (food breakdown) http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/ > PubMed (research papers) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi > DWIDP (nutrient analysis) http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe > Patch file for above http://www.walford.com/download/dwidp67u.exe > KIM (omega analysis) http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > and well being. > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > Subscription and list archives are at: > Gettingwell > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2002 Report Share Posted January 17, 2002 Nick Grant wrote: > think about it... I can't even understand it > > Thanks anyway Greg I second that!! Greg, I sent a portion of one of your day-old e-mails to my mother, to see what she thought. She wrote me a bunch of questions to ask you, which I'll (hopefully today) type up & send to the list for you to answer.... and if possible, answer in English! Mindy, who has never heard of " mystric " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2002 Report Share Posted January 17, 2002 - " John Polifronio " <counterpnt Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:50 PM Re: Re: Is Mystric (c14:0) the prime fatty acid? > Hi Greg > How do you deal with the fact that, apparently, most salmon on the market, > is " farmed " and not wild? This has been called to my attention, and has put > a damper on my readiness to eat salmon as often as I'd like to. I've also > been trying sardines, as well as tuna, of course. I guess I'm lucky being able to buy fresh salmon but it is farmed in the open seas south of Tasmania. Very tight controls on what they can feed the fish and the Tas gov does quality & health checks the same as or better than in Norway and their farmed fish are fine. > Also, in your last post, you left a sentence dangling: " Then use > non-peroxidizable.......... " (?).......were you going to say flax-seed? > Have you spent any time on the flax-oil chatlist? They promote the Dr. > Budwig formula, against the major diseases, especially cancer and heart > disease. She calls for the use of multiple spoons of flax oil, thoroughly > mixed into cottage cheese; the latter for being rich in the sulphur amino > acids, which she claims allows the flax-oil to, in some way I still do not > fully understand, be fully utilized by the body. Hi John, Yes I'm a member of the flax oil list and for treating active cancer I do agree with her protocol as the high peroxidation of the Omega 3 LNA helps to destroy the cancer cell membranes due to elevated peroxidation from the high level of free radicals cancer cells produce. ======================== Good Health & Long Life, Greg Watson, http://optimalhealth.cia.com.au gowatson USDA database (food breakdown) http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/ PubMed (research papers) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi DWIDP (nutrient analysis) http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe Patch file for above http://www.walford.com/download/dwidp67u.exe KIM (omega analysis) http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2002 Report Share Posted January 18, 2002 I don't know about the specific farm-raised salmon you buy, but I've read that farm raised salmon have a lot less DHA/EPA than wild salmon. I think the amount of n3's decreases from 2g to 500mg per serving. I think partly this is due to feeding them corn/grains/other unnatural food although I might be wrong. The tight controls you mention *might* just mean that they are not supposed to feed them garbage/waste/etc. Just thought I'd throw that out. > I guess I'm lucky being able to buy fresh salmon but it is farmed in the open seas south of Tasmania. Very tight > controls on what they can feed the fish and the Tas gov does quality & health checks the same as or better than in > Norway and their farmed fish are fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2002 Report Share Posted January 18, 2002 - " medwards706 " <medwards706 Friday, January 18, 2002 1:24 PM Re: Is Mystric (c14:0) the prime fatty acid? > I don't know about the specific farm-raised salmon you buy, but I've > read that farm raised salmon have a lot less DHA/EPA than wild > salmon. I think the amount of n3's decreases from 2g to 500mg per > serving. I think partly this is due to feeding them corn/grains/other > unnatural food although I might be wrong. The tight controls you > mention *might* just mean that they are not supposed to feed them > garbage/waste/etc. Just thought I'd throw that out. Hi, The Tasmanian salmon I buy has levels of EPA & DHA higher than the wild guys as they feed them Omega 3 LNA. Not all salmon farmers are crooks. http://www.springssalmon.com.au/ They happen to have their headquarters in the Adelaide hills, 30 minutes drive away. ======================== Good Health & Long Life, Greg Watson, http://optimalhealth.cia.com.au gowatson USDA database (food breakdown) http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/ PubMed (research papers) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi DWIDP (nutrient analysis) http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe Patch file for above http://www.walford.com/download/dwidp67u.exe KIM (omega analysis) http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2002 Report Share Posted January 18, 2002 Greg I'll bet a lot of us would like to be living near those Tasmanian salmon suppliers; I know I'd want to. But, we don't. I'm in Los Angeles, and, you'd think, in a city this size, there'd be someone making properly nourished, high quality and fresh salmon, routinely available to the buying public. But I seriously doubt it. - " Greg Watson " <gowatson Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:04 PM Re: Re: Is Mystric (c14:0) the prime fatty acid? > - > " medwards706 " <medwards706 > > Friday, January 18, 2002 1:24 PM > Re: Is Mystric (c14:0) the prime fatty acid? > > > > I don't know about the specific farm-raised salmon you buy, but I've > > read that farm raised salmon have a lot less DHA/EPA than wild > > salmon. I think the amount of n3's decreases from 2g to 500mg per > > serving. I think partly this is due to feeding them corn/grains/other > > unnatural food although I might be wrong. The tight controls you > > mention *might* just mean that they are not supposed to feed them > > garbage/waste/etc. Just thought I'd throw that out. > > Hi, > > The Tasmanian salmon I buy has levels of EPA & DHA higher than the wild guys as they feed them Omega 3 LNA. Not all > salmon farmers are crooks. > > http://www.springssalmon.com.au/ > > They happen to have their headquarters in the Adelaide hills, 30 minutes drive away. > ======================== > Good Health & Long Life, > Greg Watson, http://optimalhealth.cia.com.au gowatson > USDA database (food breakdown) http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/ > PubMed (research papers) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi > DWIDP (nutrient analysis) http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe > Patch file for above http://www.walford.com/download/dwidp67u.exe > KIM (omega analysis) http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > and well being. > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > Subscription and list archives are at: > Gettingwell > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2002 Report Share Posted January 20, 2002 --- Farm-raised salmon is a Genetically Engineered fish. It is listed on numerous web-sites as such. I for one, wouldn't go near it. " medwards706 " <medwards706> wrote: > I don't know about the specific farm-raised salmon you buy, but I've > read that farm raised salmon have a lot less DHA/EPA than wild > salmon. I think the amount of n3's decreases from 2g to 500mg per > serving. I think partly this is due to feeding them corn/grains/other > unnatural food although I might be wrong. The tight controls you > mention *might* just mean that they are not supposed to feed them > garbage/waste/etc. Just thought I'd throw that out. > > > I guess I'm lucky being able to buy fresh salmon but it is farmed > in the open seas south of Tasmania. Very tight > > controls on what they can feed the fish and the Tas gov does > quality & health checks the same as or better than in > > Norway and their farmed fish are fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2002 Report Share Posted January 20, 2002 - " mrsjoguest " <joguest Sunday, January 20, 2002 1:38 PM Re: Is Mystric (c14:0) the prime fatty acid? > --- Farm-raised salmon is a Genetically Engineered fish. It is listed > on numerous web-sites as such. I for one, wouldn't go near it. Hi, While there have been experiments done on GM fish, there is none legally in the food chain and the risks of escape from the pends is too great to allow them to be farmed. ======================== Good Health & Long Life, Greg Watson, http://optimalhealth.cia.com.au gowatson USDA database (food breakdown) http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/ PubMed (research papers) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi DWIDP (nutrient analysis) http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe Patch file for above http://www.walford.com/download/dwidp67u.exe KIM (omega analysis) http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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