Guest guest Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Hi Jim, My friends and I have been having a similar ongoing discussion and FWIW I would like to share the conclusion. The reason that we are made aware of 'situations that create an emotional response' is because we can do something about it... The question to ask ourselves at this point is "what am I supposed to do?" Even if the answer is "Send love energy" then that is sufficient because it could well be the little boost a person needs to do what is required to change their circumstances. Case in point...Several months ago I had p-mailed Doc asking for which tapes etc. etc. I should buy if/when I could afford it to help my personal situation. He did not ignore my question but did not answer it either ....because since I did not have the money it was irrelevant what would be useful etc. His answer back was intuitive and simple.."Get out more!!" Now these three words written not spoken carried enough energy for me to get out more and as a result I have shifted over to a far far superior position than before. You have a hugh variety of skills at your fingertips and the desire to use them as is obvious from your note so please ask that 'magic question' and trust that whatever you do is multiplied, recieved and correct. Kate What the hell is the REASON for seeing other people's suffering if Ican't do anything about it? Is it because I was a shithead at someprior time in the past and now I get to pay for it by watching andcan't do a damn thing to help? Or is it just because of "Law ofAllowing"? Or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Hey Jim, , " James R. Knippenberg " <erommel@e...> wrote: > ************Snip************ > > What the hell is the REASON for seeing other people's suffering if I > can't do anything about it? Is it because I was a shithead at some > prior time in the past and now I get to pay for it by watching and > can't do a damn thing to help? Or is it just because of " Law of > Allowing " ? Or what? > > Thanks, > Jim Huh, or maybe you were VULGER and now get to go into a guilt and shame loop cause someone told you that you deserve it? Or maybe you WERE a shithead and now get to loop and feel bad about THAT. (I doubt you were though.) Or maybe you can feel powerless about helping other people and can go into an ever descending loop about THAT TOO. Or maybe you can be like that woman I posted about a while ago who felt VIOLATED because I told her that she could have her own POWER over HER OWN LIFE. Which DID violate her own world construct of being AT EFFECT. All the time... (I RV'ed her and she did have some horrendous family problems. Mostly her father.) (Tough...) (Read Machelle Wright's book " Behaving As If The God In All Life Mattered " or Viktor Frankl's " Mans Search For Meaning " to find out how some people lean how to be at cause.) I know you won't do any of that nasty stuff though. You have your own powers. And know it. And are getting quite good at using them. All Four Of Them. Always good to read your posts, And all the best, -Mark P.S. BTW this post wasn't for Jim. Who could it have been for? Hmmmm??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 At 02:18 AM 8/23/2005, you wrote: >What the hell is the REASON for seeing other people's suffering if I >can't do anything about it? Is it because I was a shithead at some >prior time in the past and now I get to pay for it by watching and >can't do a damn thing to help? Or is it just because of " Law of >Allowing " ? Or what? > >Thanks, >Jim Jim, Here is one thought or line of thinking to consider (just one). Emotional reaction about outside events are simply a projection about inside resistance. In other words every judgment/elevation I make personalizes (says something about me personally) vs calibration which observes/evaluates toward an outcome I have in mind. One is judgment, the other is preference. (Judgment is only preference with possibility removed and personalization added.) One creates resistance and the other creates use. With internal resistance some of the things we can do is " sit with it " (not thinking about it-feeling experiencing it) until the opposite shows up or use any of the Energy Psychologies to take the charge (vibration) out of it or use a Spiritual Technology (Deep PEAT 3) to integrate it with its' opposite. (Note: all of these can be done without having a REASON for the experience other than the experience itself.) Remember about 50% of the time the effect comes before the cause. The Law of Allowing is really about alignment with the flow vs resisting the flow. In the energy model it is called aligning with the flow. When we are not aligned with the flow we feel it. When we are aligned with the flow we feel it. That is the Law of Allowing. The Law of Allowing does not operate by itself. It requires the law of attraction to work and the law of deliberate creation to take full advantage of. It all comes down to using our Universal Positioning System* for what it is designed for. Not as what is actually going on but as an indicator as to whether or not we are in the flow (aligned) or resisting the flow (out of alignment). *Universal Positioning System The EP's are designed to remove resistance/disruption which is great so we can actually begin the process of getting more of what we want. So if you are going to use reinforcements, affirmations, statements of truth, visualization or acknowledgment make sure that as you do that the feeling you are emoting as you use your reinforcement is anywhere from a good to a great emotion. Most of us have heard of a GPS well this is a UPS (Universal Positioning System). Take all emotions and put them in two categories. One that feels good and on that feels bad. (Ever emotion is a graduation on this scale anyway.) As we monitor our emotional state, when we notice a bad feeling (negative emotion), immediately, not later, use our EP process to remove the disruption in the energy flow and acknowledge what we want (to feel good) and we may be surprised not only how we... feel better, also how our beliefs are more flexible and how we start getting more of what we want into our lives. To Your Best, Doc Houston Just put up - Reviews and Recommendations http://www.achieve-your-potential.com/reviews-and-recommendations.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 First of all I would like to say Hi to the group nice to be here and now... > I went to a movie tonight and saw the Great Raid (?) -- the movie > about the Rangers and Phillipino's who rescued 511 American POW's who > survived the Bataan Death March. (Real good movie about some real > good men and some real good women.) I can't tell you how much it > pissed me off when they showed POW's getting burned alive in air raid > shelters after the japs poured fuel all over them. Now I know why my > uncle hated them. > > And as far as I know, in THAT War, I never did ANYTHING such as that. > Maybe I did and just don't know. I probably did sometime a long time > ago and don't want to know about it. Your talking about past life right? I thought about my past lives, didn't RV anything, no visions no nothing just thought about it. I considered being every possible person I could think of from the worst to the best and I think that we are here to move forward not try to remember what we forgot on purpose ( you probably knew who you were before you incarnated into your present body and you'll remember again when you die) Why worry about something that was then? Worry about what is now, or even better dont worry, just see problems that need to be solved. > But what's the point of KNOWING something if I can't do anything about > it???? So IF I KNOW, then there must be some REASON. Yup, there is a reason, you opened your eyes and you see. I read a post somewhere on the net from a guy who had similar experiences as you, he said he just had to let the pain go threw him (he let it go back to the universe from which it came) I experience the pain of others threw TV and other media since I can remember. I saw it with my own eyes and I felt my own pain. I don't care no more. I am oversaturated with it and so I am numb. I hardly ever > bother to RV missing persons anymore because I can't take it. > > What the hell is the REASON for seeing other people's suffering if I > can't do anything about it? Is it because I was a shithead at some > prior time in the past and now I get to pay for it by watching and > can't do a damn thing to help? Or is it just because of " Law of > Allowing " ? Or what? The universe is filled with pain. Did you ever see that picture of 2 galaxies coliding. I wonder was there life in those galaxies, and if there was did it ALL die (2 galaxies worth of life, how does Earth compare to that) Also did you ever read up on the history and the future of the univers. Its going to rebound back into itself and all the life contained withinit will be destroyed. I find that focusing on the end relieves pain. Like if I have a bad day and I cant take it nomore I think about the day I will die and the pain is gone, sometimes I even become happy (its strange I know) I am not the only one that sees the value of death. Did you ever think why the scull and bones societies (like the one at Yale) seem to be composed of people who later become succesfull. Maybe its because the death-centric soccieties help to strenghten their members and help them become more resistant to pain. They are stron not because of who they know but how they think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 , " James R. Knippenberg " <erommel@e...> wrote: > [ snip ] > > What the hell is the REASON for seeing other people's suffering if I > can't do anything about it? Is it because I was a shithead at some > prior time in the past and now I get to pay for it by watching and > can't do a damn thing to help? Or is it just because of " Law of > Allowing " ? Or what? Once upon a time, an old man lived with his son in the foothills of the mountains. They owned a farm and kept goats, sheep, chickens and a horse. One day the horse broke out of it's corral and fled into the wildnerness. All the old man's neighbours came to see him from the nearby village. 'Oh dear old man,' they said, 'we heard your horse broke free and ran away, what a terrible thing.' The old man just smiled at them and said 'maybe'. A little while later the horse came back and it was leading three other wild horses behind it. The old man and his son rounded up the horses, repaired the corral and put them inside. All the villagers came by. 'Old man,' they said, 'what good luck and good fortune, now you have four horses where before you had none. What a great blessing you have been given.' The old man smiled and said 'maybe'. And the old man's son started to break in the horses but one of them threw him and he broke his leg. He writhed on the ground in terrible pain and suffering. The villagers came to help. 'Oh no old man,' they said, 'what misfortunte it is that your poor son suffers so.' The old man just shrugged and said 'maybe'. Then at that time, the emperor passed through the countryside recruiting all the young men into his army to fight in the war. Many would never come home again, but they left the old man's son behind because his leg was still broken. The villagers came to visit. 'Old man,' they said, 'how lucky you are, how fortunate that your son has been spared enlisting in the army.' And the old man smiled and said, 'maybe'... Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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