I am a Fanatic, Parts IV & V.

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--- " Tom Suit " <tomsuit wrote:

> Regarding energy testing, my experience with using it has been

that it is

> only

> good for using as a convincer since it is so easily manipulated.

 

Hi Tom,

 

That is because you do not YET have enough training in Energy nor in

Energy Testing.

 

Here's parts 4 & 5 of a post I wrote in reply to Dave, BUT I decided

NOT to waste my time sending to one person.

 

But it also does fit what you are talking about. Enjoy.

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PART IV

 

> 4. Energy testing can be manipulated.

 

So what?

 

It's just another form of the hypnotic ideomotor responses that are

used daily in hypnosis. It is a calibration skill that goes to the

deeper and unconscious mental and emotional processes.

 

When you deny energy testing you are also denying the use of the

pendulum, and any other tool used to enhance the ideomotor responses.

 

One of my favorite hypnosis trainers (Leslie M. LeCron) used the

pendulum as a " convincer tool " for hypnosis.

 

The pendulum is a very good tool for convincing, and then installing

confidence and new hypnotic skills into those that just don't yet

have awareness between the different hypnotic states of focus.

 

Ideomotor response can be faked. That does NOT mean that it is faked!

 

The results of the pendulum can be faked. That does NOT mean that

they are faked!

 

Hand levitation can be faked. That does NOT mean that it is faked!

 

Energy testing can be faked. That does NOT mean that it is faked!

 

But, do NOT take my word. Go to the authorities (which I am one)...

 

....authorities like Alan G. Beardall, " Clinical Kinesiology " , Vols,

1-4, A. Lawson, " Interexaminer Agreement for Applied Kinesiology

Manual Muscle Testing " , " Perceptual and Motor Skills " , ChangYu

Hsieh, " Reliability of Manual Muscle Testing with a Computerized

Dynamometer " , Journal of Manipulative and Physiological Therapeutics

1990...blab, blab, blab.

 

PART V

 

(a bunch omitted)

 

I also " used to " think that energy was bullshit and only fools fell

for it. Then, 9 years ago, I did meet several fantastic trainers

that actually taught methods of verification. Donna Eden is the

number one person in energy medicine in the world! She also has used

hypnosis and teaches hypnosis for her advanced energy practitioners.

Her husband, Dr. David Feinstein is a Clinical Psychologist.

 

I've also ran across some other people who are very good at hypnosis

and other skills related to energy, and the ACCURATE & RELIABLE

TESTING of those energies. Dr. John Diebolt, Dr. Rodger Callahan,

Dr. Fred Gallo, Dr. Lee Pulos. Blab, blab, blab.

 

In fact Lee has written, " The Integration of Energy Psychology with

Hypnosis " . I suggest you might want to study that.

 

In my many years as a Trainer (in Hypnosis, energy medicine & energy

psychology) I've came to the conclusion that all clients lie. This

is NOT because they mean to lie, or ignore their inner workings..

Most of them don't. A few do. It's just that they don't know any

better.

 

It's because they don't have the bridges of communication built up

between the different layers of consciousness, and the different

types of focused attention. (YES, even total relaxation is a form of

focused attention).

 

They are confused. They have no clue to what beliefs and values are

in their unconscious minds. So what their conscious mind " believes "

is the problem is NOT the case in most situations. So I needed a

method to get to those deeper levels of mind very quickly in a

manner that what would lend itself to a " show me " approach so that

the client or the seminar attendee would be convinced.

 

So I've added 6 things to all my client hypnosis training work

BEFORE I do hypnosis with them.

 

1. I've established an energy checking procedure…

 

2. I check for and correct any neurological disorganization, or the

hypnosis will not be effective.

 

3. I check for and resolve any psychological reversals, or the

hypnosis/NLP intervention will not last.

 

4. I identify a target problem, than I verify that's the real

problem with energy testing.

 

5. I access linguistically that problem on the SUDS (Subjective

Units of Distress) and confirm that number with an energy test.

 

6. I energetically and linguistically lock that problem into the

body for the purposes of the treatment session.

 

In all the above erasure processes I use hypnosis. And in all

the " installations " I use hypnosis. Now, do I only use conventional

direct hypnosis, or unconventional indirect hypnosis? The answer to

that depends upon your definitions of what hypnosis is. According to

my definition, " yes it's all hypnosis " .

 

But to a skeptical critic that will mismatch what I say because " he

doesn't like me " , or because " it's not what he does " , or

because " he's anal retentive " , probably not.

 

Skeptical critics always continue to challenge any results that are

not their own.

 

I would suggest that those that are skeptical of how hypnosis is

intertwined with other emotional, energic skills, do some research.

 

Have fun Tom;-)