How & why attempts at distance healing can be detrimental

[Guest guest]

--- <judith.poole wrote:

 

> Hi everyone,

> You're probably already doing this, but I thought as a group we could >send

our prayers and healing energy to all those affected by the >earthquake in Haiti

and their relatives here in the states and >throughout the world.

 

> Thanks!

> Love,

> Judith

 

Well,

 

I do agree 100% with the intention behind this request of Judith...

 

....and I totally disagree with untrained people doing it!

 

Why is that?

 

It's because so many people are driven by their fears, and 'don't wants', and

when they broadcast, even if 'believing' they are helping, they can actually be

making it worse.

 

See the book of Job...or Peter Sanders...or Haanel...or The Intention

Experiment...or The Field...or The Energy Healing Experiment...or The Silva Mind

Control Method for Business Managers...or Dossey...or Donna Eden...blab, blab,

blab.

 

It's called unconscious negative hypnotic programming, and it happens more often

than not.

 

Especially since all subconscious minds are directly linked and any intention

and attention is felt subconsciously by those others even if they don't know it.

 

For example, " don't die " , " don't feel frightened " , " don't fear losing your loved

ones " , etc.

 

So if one were to do what Judith asked, " HOW SPECIFICALLY CAN IT BE DONE SO THAT

IT'S EFFECTIVENESS IS POSSIBLE AND ASSURED? "

 

Have fun group.

 

John La Tourrette, PhD

[Guest guest]

<sue.gridley wrote:

 

> Well, in these cases, I always ask that all proceed in Divine order and let a

higher wisdom take care of things.

 

Hi Sue,

 

Well,

 

To me that is giving up self-responsibility to someone or something else OUTSIDE

of you. It is (to me) a way of giving up and 'hoping' (which is the same as

'wishing') that something else can assist.

 

To me, we are a part of higher wisdom and divine order, and we have the

capabilities to create for good (and for bad) INSIDE of ourselves because we are

a part of divine spirit and we can use that spirit consciously.

 

For example...

 

when I'm on an airplane and the flight is a bit rocky, I do not ask for divine

guidance...

 

....What I do is go into theta with a 'trigger'...I place my mind inside the

pilot as if I'm him, and I think " I'm focused...I'm good and prepared...my

awareness and reflexes are peaked " ...

 

So I go specific results orientated.

 

We all 'broadcast' all the time. In instances of danger, survival focus is very

helpful.

 

> I think you're right, Jack. The media is manipulating us to have chaotic

feelings. Even a chance encounter with the news can throw me into a feeling of

helplessness more than helpfulness.

 

Yep, bad news sells, good news is humdrum. News median is into the money game.

 

>My immediate thought was we need to send some people there to work with shock

and trauma energetically.

 

That would be a good thought. Who could go? How do you find out?

 

> I sent money to a relief agency. They need water, medicine, food in addition

to good vibes.

 

So give money to the groups that can and DO assist. Also send good vibes

(whatever they may be).

 

Thank you Sue.

 

John La Tourrette, PhD

 

> On Jan 13, 2010, at 10:06 PM, docspeed2001 wrote:

 

> > --- <judith.poole@> wrote:

 

> > > Hi everyone,

> > > You're probably already doing this, but I thought as a group we could

>send our prayers and healing energy to all those affected by the >earthquake in

Haiti and their relatives here in the states and >throughout the world.

> > > Thanks!

> > > Love,

> > > Judith

 

> > Well,

 

> > I do agree 100% with the intention behind this request of Judith...

 

> > ...and I totally disagree with untrained people doing it!

 

> > Why is that?

 

> > It's because so many people are driven by their fears, and 'don't wants',

and when they broadcast, even if 'believing' they are helping, they can actually

be making it worse.

 

> > See the book of Job...or Peter Sanders...or Haanel...or The Intention

Experiment...or The Field...or The Energy Healing Experiment...or The Silva Mind

Control Method for Business Managers...or Dossey...or Donna Eden...blab, blab,

blab.

 

> > It's called unconscious negative hypnotic programming, and it happens more

often than not.

 

> > Especially since all subconscious minds are directly linked and any

intention and attention is felt subconsciously by those others even if they

don't know it.

 

> > For example, " don't die " , " don't feel frightened " , " don't fear losing your

loved ones " , etc.

 

> > So if one were to do what Judith asked, " HOW SPECIFICALLY CAN IT BE DONE SO

THAT IT'S EFFECTIVENESS IS POSSIBLE AND ASSURED? "

 

> > Have fun group.

 

> > John La Tourrette, PhD

[Guest guest]

No one has challenged whether or not it is ethical or moral to assist them with

distance healing without first going there and asking them for their

" permission "

 

I know that what typically happens ends up being accidental (?) psychic attack -

the media plays something over and over again, it gets stuck inside the mass

population's minds and emotions, and they accidentally end up cursing the

people.

 

On the other hand, the media DOES assist with the helping of raising funds for

basic needs.

 

So first of all, " Do you want to assist them with distance healing? "

 

IF SO, then " What do I need to do to help them? "

 

I'm not sure there is a " universal big chunk " thought form that fits. Maybe

there is, but I prefer to do something different when I work these types of

projects / cases.

 

If it were just something simple like I'm sitting at a restaurant I like, and I

notice business is kind of slow, and the food is good and the workers and

management are real nice people, I will just sit there and radiate what I like

and appreciate about the place AND put a thought form there of attraction for

other people who appreciate that kind of food and service.

 

But in this sort of case, I don't know that " one size fits all. "

 

The infant trapped in the rubble needs one type of influence or comfort.

Someone older might need a different type.

 

And the person digging through the rubble looking for their loved ones needs

something else. Or the orphaned kids who will never see their parents again.

 

So instead of sending a " one size fits all " thought form to those types of

situations, I usually prefer to mentally imagine I'm there, and I mentally

intend to " find someone who wants my assistance that I know how to help, " and

then I mentally imagine helping that one person.

 

I might then move on to someone else.

 

Or use a type of " unimold " or " representation " of " Group X. " But I generally

prefer to find someone I can help with.

 

That might be offensive to some who might see it is God picking out people out

of the sea and letting others drown (sort of a Calvinist idea that some are

chosen to be saved, others are not), but I don't see it that way.

 

I can get subjective rapport more easily with some than with others.

 

I know that through experience.

 

I'm not " Jesus Christ " yet...

 

So as I sense that person who stands out to me mentally, I ask myself " What is

going on with this person? What do they need right now? "

 

And as applicable, I might also " pretend to be them " and do any kind of

emotional " unloading " necessary - Energy Tapping, expelling the venom, or any

various number of 'techniques' but whatever I INTUITIVELY sense they need -

maybe holding neurovasculars until I sense an energy " release " so that the

person is now able to think clearly and to do whatever it is THEY need to do.

 

For some it might be the ability to resolve grief and move on with the

appreciation of those who passed on.

 

For those buried in the rubble, it might be the sense of hope AND the strong

desire to survive and live on and have a happy, successful life.

 

For others, it might be the sense and satisfaction of feeling the presence and

love of those close to them, even though they haven't yet located each other.

 

There might be a " one size fits all " type of influence for these situations, but

I don't prefer to work that way.

 

Now Sue did say something interesting about SENDING people there who are

qualified to work, and THAT IS a very valid point.

 

One of the things I believe is useful (and this is a concept that is already

taught with remote healing) is to influence someone ELSE WHO IS THERE ALREADY so

their energy field can have a positive impact on the person or persons in need

of healing.

 

So is there someone there who stands out as a POSITIVE example of courage, hope,

healing, etc. whom you could influence remotely for clear thinking, decisive

action, and " whatever else they need " ...

 

And influence that person / those people so they can organize the efforts more

effectively and also be a positive influence and light to those around them.

 

And for them to have the decency, integrity and moral fiber to work in the best

interest of all concerned.

 

Just a few ideas that I work with whenever I do these types of Remote Influence

and Remote Healing projects.

 

Sincerely,

Jim Knippenberg

 

 

 

 

>docspeed2001 <docspeed2001

>Jan 13, 2010 10:06 PM

>

> How & why attempts at distance

healing can be detrimental

>

>--- <judith.poole wrote:

>

>> Hi everyone,

>> You're probably already doing this, but I thought as a group we could >send

our prayers and healing energy to all those affected by the >earthquake in Haiti

and their relatives here in the states and >throughout the world.

>

>> Thanks!

>> Love,

>> Judith

>

>Well,

>

>I do agree 100% with the intention behind this request of Judith...

>

>...and I totally disagree with untrained people doing it!

>

>Why is that?

>

>It's because so many people are driven by their fears, and 'don't wants', and

when they broadcast, even if 'believing' they are helping, they can actually be

making it worse.

>

>See the book of Job...or Peter Sanders...or Haanel...or The Intention

Experiment...or The Field...or The Energy Healing Experiment...or The Silva Mind

Control Method for Business Managers...or Dossey...or Donna Eden...blab, blab,

blab.

>

>It's called unconscious negative hypnotic programming, and it happens more

often than not.

>

>Especially since all subconscious minds are directly linked and any intention

and attention is felt subconsciously by those others even if they don't know it.

>

>For example, " don't die " , " don't feel frightened " , " don't fear losing your

loved ones " , etc.

>

>So if one were to do what Judith asked, " HOW SPECIFICALLY CAN IT BE DONE SO

THAT IT'S EFFECTIVENESS IS POSSIBLE AND ASSURED? "

>

>Have fun group.

>

>John La Tourrette, PhD

>