Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 Lari - Good advice from Doc. Living life at cause - could also be the point alcoholics get to right after they hit bottom - when they have to make the choice of whether they want to live or die. (another way to look at the choice: oblivion or awareness) Usually an addicted alcoholic (vs a binger - which is the kind of drinker I was) has to detox. Their metabolism is not the same as a non-addict, hence the craving and the fear of withdrawal. If an alcoholic has NOT reached that point, (hitting bottom - or being at cause) then please understand that they will be incredibly opportunistic and only be interested in you feeding their needs (which is like throwing energy into a black hole.) There is NO WAY a alcoholic can 'cut down' -- so just consider that an indication of being in denial. (and terror of the withdrawal stage) Does he even remember what joy feels like? That's what pulled me through the ugly part -- wanting to feel joy again. (didn't know about the radiant circuits back then!) Helen On Sep 29, 2005, at 1:53 PM, docspeed2001 wrote: > Hi Lari, > > Skip all the content. > You are totally lost in it. > His problems stem from one thing, his loss of self-acceptance. > Go for that. > The Psychological Reversal, " Even though I XXX, I totally appreciate > and accept myself " > > Once that is wired in using Energy Psychology, THEN other roads will > open up. > > What NEEDS to be installed is his capabilities for living life at > CAUSE. > > > > , " Lari Ward " > <lariward@e...> wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I need input on a client, and also a friend, I start with > tomorrow. This is >> very complicated. The History I know. He was raped at 4, says he > is gay >> and doesn't want to be, yet fantasizes about men. Thinks he may > be because >> he was raped. I know this is an issue (self acceptance) we will > have to >> work on. He is also a severe alcoholic, including neurolgic > damage. Right >> now he feels that his life is useless, has zip self esteem and > wonders if he >> is trying to kill himself. He rarely eats. Coffee and a > cigarette for >> breakfast, sandwich maybe once a day, and alcohol starts in the > afternoon. >> Some days he doesn't eat. He knows he needs help and wants to do > something, >> but lost. He has been to rehab 3 times and it doesn't work for > him. The >> counseling through the programs were " Christian " and tried to talk > him out >> of his being gay. More harm than good. >> >> >> >> He is an incredible artist!! I happened to go over to his house > yesterday >> to pick up some of my pottery he had fired. I was shocked at his > state >> change in just over a week. I guess you could say I gently > intervened, and >> it brought a lot of stuff to the surface. He has agreed to come > to my >> office. I told him I would work with him with these > stipulations: He can't >> have been drinking when he comes over, he will start to eat, he > has to do >> the " drills " . He told me he can't quit drinking, and at this > point he >> can't, but can cut back. He has come up with a plan to mark off > how much he >> can drink and decrease it. He has agreed to the other > stipulations, in fact >> he was overwhelmed with emotion that I would help him. My bag of > tricks >> includes Eden's energy medicine, EFT, and my intuition. I am > looking for >> your wisdom on this. Are there drills I can have him do, what > about diet? >> I am open to your information and help. >> >> >> >> Lari >> >> 360 697-5999 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 Thanks Helen, I appreciate your help. >>Living life at cause - could also be the point alcoholics get to right after they hit bottom - when they have to make the choice of whether they want to live or die. (another way to look at the choice: oblivion or awareness) He’s hit bottom and realizes it. I think he choose life over death. What I didn’t say in my e-mail is that when I went into his studio there was a rifle on the counter, out of its holder. I asked him about it, and his reply was a friend had brought it back and he was going to give it to his brother since he didn’t hunt anymore. RIGHT. This man is a pacifist; maybe part of what he said was true maybe not. Sometimes it’s best not to believe what people say or at least trust your instincts. He called me tonight at 4:30 and hadn’t had a drink. It’s a start. There is NO WAY a alcoholic can 'cut down' -- so just consider that an indication of being in denial. (and terror of the withdrawal stage) Yes I agree. Does he even remember what joy feels like? That's what pulled me through the ugly part -- wanting to feel joy again. (didn't know about the radiant circuits back then!) I don’t think he does. And it has probably been a long time. I’ll be doing radiant circuits a LOT. Thanks, Lari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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