Guest guest Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 , " Elizabeth Sleight " <esleight@s...> wrote: > Ok, I buy the holographic Universe concept and what affects one affects all. Okay. > But how about those people who choose to hold onto their illness, > consciously or subconsciously, because it serves a purpose in their lives? Secondary gains concept from psychology. Okay. I > realize that this purpose isn't to the benefit of all but, for whatever > reason, they need the support, sympathy, pity or whatever it is that their > illness brings them. It is very easy to get away with all sorts of things > when you are ill, people make concessions. (I am not endorsing this way of > thinking!!) More Secondary gains. >So, do I have to right to go in and energetically fix that > person without their permission? It's possible. Especially when you know their " Convincer Strategies " , and you can easily do Remote Viewing. My question is, " why? " > Or, for that matter, will I be able to > change them Yes, by reframing how they think with proper preconditionings, stories that are isomorphic to their own situation, blab, blab, blab... ....but again, why would you? > or will they simply reject the healing on a subconscious level? Not if you aligne the treatment with their behaviors, beliefs, values and personal idenity. But again, why would you? > Speaking from personal experience I went to a friend for a Bowen session. > She had me on the table and chose to use another modality that was > energetically and mentally intrusive, done without laying her hands on me, > and without my permission. I have to say that I felt violated and never went > back. Did you tell her that? Maybe she could have explained in a manner that you might approve of? > She didn't honour my request for the healing that I most wanted at > that time. Last week I talked about a client that thought she wanted to get rid of her fear, but after we did a bit, I noticed that fear was not the issue so we took care of the real problem. She was happier than a teenager in a whore-house. >That's not to say that I wouldn't have given my permission if I > felt the circumstances were right, but they weren't right for me. That's when you speak up. When you let her know what is important to you, is it not? > Also, what about each person's participation in their healing? Very important for BEST results. See my above questions. > The people that participate and place value on what I do benefit >the most. The ones that basically come and say " fix me, not that I >am sure you can .... " are the ones that quite often are completely >unaware of the changes that have taken place. Actually its NOt that in most cases. What it is, is they are NOT aware of where they are, so when you get them to a better place, they cannot calibrate the difference. So, to their conscious mind, you've done nothing. A very COMMON event. Which is why I either tape or video all sessions...I also do the clarity model at the start of each session, plus much much more. > Again, I suspect they are hanging onto their " dis-ease " for a > purpose. > > Boy, you sure do make me think and I have SO many questions!!! Thank you for all your neat questions. Sincerely, Dr. John M La Tourrette > Elizabeth > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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