Guest guest Posted May 28, 2005 Report Share Posted May 28, 2005 Hello ALL, I have to second Doc John on this one. It is very important that you know your outcome (what you are looking for) for practicing any skill or drill or you will wind up getting the wrong dance lessons.. Mantak Chia and one of his student Michael Winn do not teach Chi Gong/Qigong for Martial Arts. So if you are looking for Martial Arts Chi Gong/Qigong these are not your guys. They are not designed for street effectiveness. They don't have much of a clue about how to dance in the street (Martial Arts). And yet if your focus is in the direction of experiencing words like oneness, unity, enlightenment, inner healing work, then Mantak Chia and Michael Winn (whom I've learned a few things from) are useful trainers to learn how to dance from. It is important to determine where you want to dance and learn from dancers who know how to dance in that area. Learn street dancing from street dancers, ballroom from ballroom dancers, disco from disco dancers, Latin from Latin dancers, etc... Utilize Everything, Doc Houston " Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. Have you ever noticed that it bears a very close resemblance to the first? " My Grampa Vetter At 09:04 PM 5/27/2005, you wrote: --- In , " marangneng " <marangneng> wrote: > As far as getting a basic, useful understanding of the principles > of Qigong, two very good sources are Mantak Chia ....And I personally can't stand Mantak, his books, nor his videos/audio... (It's OKAY if anyone else likes him;-) So different strokes for different folks. My meaning here is to define what you want from Chi Kung, and then find the proper trainers. Now I love anything put out by Dr. Yang Jwing-Ming! Now the amusing thing is Dr. Yang does talk good about Mantak. In my view of the world, " if the Chi Kung being taught is NOT martial arts based, then it is NO MORE than dance lessons! " ... ....it is no more than standing infront of the television and breathing with the picture on the screen... ....so I always suggest to the Wood Elements, Fire Elements and Metal Elements that they look for a trainer of Chi Kung that knows his " chinese chi kung " and it's application to the fighting arts. Remember Tae Bo? The guy (Billy Blanks)incorrectly protrayed his Tae Bo (an aerobics exercise sequence) as a martial art. Many people practiced those Tae Bo DANCE LESSONS, then walked around arrogantly with the SUPREME CONFIDENCE OF THE IGNORANT, and got their kumdingees kicked. After many many people got their asses kicked in an encounter, they sued Billy Blanks AND WON... ....so Billy's next set of tapes MADE NO PROMISES about the martial arts effectiveness of those trainings... ....just promises about sweating hard, and feeling good. It's the same with Chi Kung. And, most Chi Kung trainer's I've encounter can't ever recognize nor stop an unzipping of their energy fields just prior to combat let alone do anything more complicated. I do know. ....and I do have a 3 video set out on this " Energy Attack " aspect of the martials arts called, " Stealing his Spirit Before Battle! " So, what are you looking for? Once you know that, then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2005 Report Share Posted May 28, 2005 Hi, I have to third that. Good advice Doc J and and Doc H. Early on when my goal was to overcome chronic pain and moving was sometimes difficult, a highly active form would not have been a good choice for me. I now combine an active as well as passive form of Qigong. The passive, meditative, form can be just as powerful. Find a good teacher. I also like options and balance, and have always been open to adding more as I progress. Lori , docresults <docresults@h...> wrote: > Hello ALL, > > I have to second Doc John on this one. It is very important that you know > your outcome (what you are looking for) for practicing any skill or drill > or you will wind up getting the wrong dance lessons.. > > Mantak Chia and one of his student Michael Winn do not teach Chi > Gong/Qigong for Martial Arts. So if you are looking for Martial Arts Chi > Gong/Qigong these are not your guys. > > They are not designed for street effectiveness. They don't have much of a > clue about how to dance in the street (Martial Arts). > > And yet if your focus is in the direction of experiencing words like > oneness, unity, enlightenment, inner healing work, then Mantak Chia and > Michael Winn (whom I've learned a few things from) are useful trainers to > learn how to dance from. > > It is important to determine where you want to dance and learn from dancers > who know how to dance in that area. Learn street dancing from street > dancers, ballroom from ballroom dancers, disco from disco dancers, Latin > from Latin dancers, etc... > > Utilize Everything, > Doc Houston > > " Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. Have you ever > noticed that it bears a very close resemblance to the first? " My Grampa > Vetter > > > At 09:04 PM 5/27/2005, you wrote: > >healingenergies- essentialskills , " marangneng " > ><marangneng> wrote: > > > > > As far as getting a basic, useful understanding of the principles > > > of Qigong, two very good sources are Mantak Chia > > > >...And I personally can't stand Mantak, his books, nor his > >videos/audio... > > > >(It's OKAY if anyone else likes him;-) > > > >So different strokes for different folks. > > > >My meaning here is to define what you want from Chi Kung, and then > >find the proper trainers. > > > >Now I love anything put out by Dr. Yang Jwing-Ming! > > > >Now the amusing thing is Dr. Yang does talk good about Mantak. > > > >In my view of the world, " if the Chi Kung being taught is NOT martial > >arts based, then it is NO MORE than dance lessons! " ... > > > >...it is no more than standing infront of the television and breathing > >with the picture on the screen... > > > >...so I always suggest to the Wood Elements, Fire Elements and Metal > >Elements that they look for a trainer of Chi Kung that knows > >his " chinese chi kung " and it's application to the fighting arts. > > > >Remember Tae Bo? > > > >The guy (Billy Blanks)incorrectly protrayed his Tae Bo (an aerobics > >exercise sequence) as a martial art. > > > >Many people practiced those Tae Bo DANCE LESSONS, then walked around > >arrogantly with the SUPREME CONFIDENCE OF THE IGNORANT, and got their > >kumdingees kicked. > > > >After many many people got their asses kicked in an encounter, they > >sued Billy Blanks AND WON... > > > >...so Billy's next set of tapes MADE NO PROMISES about the martial > >arts effectiveness of those trainings... > > > >...just promises about sweating hard, and feeling good. > > > >It's the same with Chi Kung. > > > >And, most Chi Kung trainer's I've encounter can't ever recognize nor > >stop an unzipping of their energy fields just prior to combat let > >alone do anything more complicated. > > > >I do know. > > > >...and I do have a 3 video set out on this " Energy Attack " aspect of > >the martials arts called, " Stealing his Spirit Before Battle! " > > > >So, what are you looking for? > > > >Once you know that, then... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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