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Although there are certain individuals who still believe in the earlier

version of the education via the route of Masters Degree...change is inevitable.

Many practitioners believe very strongly that the future of acupuncture &

oriental medicine in the US will primarily be via entry level of OMD (Oriental

Medical Doctor) degree which is already in the process. US residents should

expect

the very best from this medicine and we should never feel totaly comfortable

until the level is equal to every other primary care provider. Those in the

profession who wish to stay as technicians and do not want the responsibility of

primary care provider should not deter others who wish it. They may stay

technicians in the future either by simply staying technical acupuncturists or

by

becoming assistants to the OMDs.

 

Visit the NEW Acupuncture & Oriental Medicine National Coalition's website at

 

<A HREF= " http://www.aomnc.com " >http://www.aomnc.com</A> and look around but

specifically look at the

'Legislative Page' - soon to be called 'Case Law & Testimony'. Then review my

joint

testimony with several distinguished MDs both from the US and China and a past

Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives. Within the testimony by myself

and Dr. Wu, Boping you will find yet another view of what acupuncture means with

both the capital 'A' and with the small 'a'.

 

Also you may decide to give your support simply by joining. There are NEVER

any membership fees and although this is also a professional organization - it

is open to all professions, citizens, patients and friends. Read the AOMNC's

mission statement and visit this website OFTEN so as to keep abreast what is

happening in this profession.

 

Hope that you and others will be better informed by all of these sources of

information and then make up your own mind.

 

Best regards,

Richard A. Freiberg, DOM, DAc, NMD

Founder/Director AOMNC

 

 

 

 

> > john howard <johnhoward71

> >Acupuncture

> >

> >Can some one tell me what acupuncture really is, how

> >does it work and what it is good for.

>

 

 

 

 

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Consumers do not care how much education we have. Increasing

education will only reduce the number of people who will be able to

afford to go into the profession, and increase the costs for the

consumer.

I am fully in favor of every state changing its laws so that licensed

acupuncturists can call themselves " OMD " or " DOM " , but why increase

the educational standards? Tens of thousands of practitioners have

been trained with the " Masters degree level " as the educational

standard. Now this is not enough?

Does anybody feel that Chinese medicine is not primary care? Do we

not excel at treating the conditions that people see their primary

care physicians for? Are we currently not as qualified and prepared

to treat as primary care physicians? Will a few more science classes

make someone such a better acupuncturist that the rest of us can

serve as their assistants?

 

 

acupuncture , acudoc11@a... wrote:

> John

>

> Although there are certain individuals who still believe in the

earlier

> version of the education via the route of Masters Degree...change

is inevitable.

> Many practitioners believe very strongly that the future of

acupuncture &

> oriental medicine in the US will primarily be via entry level of

OMD (Oriental

> Medical Doctor) degree which is already in the process. US

residents should expect

> the very best from this medicine and we should never feel totaly

comfortable

> until the level is equal to every other primary care provider.

Those in the

> profession who wish to stay as technicians and do not want the

responsibility of

> primary care provider should not deter others who wish it. They may

stay

> technicians in the future either by simply staying technical

acupuncturists or by

> becoming assistants to the OMDs.

>

> Visit the NEW Acupuncture & Oriental Medicine National Coalition's

website at

>

> <A HREF= " http://www.aomnc.com " >http://www.aomnc.com</A> and look

around but specifically look at the

> 'Legislative Page' - soon to be called 'Case Law & Testimony'. Then

review my joint

> testimony with several distinguished MDs both from the US and China

and a past

> Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives. Within the

testimony by myself

> and Dr. Wu, Boping you will find yet another view of what

acupuncture means with

> both the capital 'A' and with the small 'a'.

>

> Also you may decide to give your support simply by joining. There

are NEVER

> any membership fees and although this is also a professional

organization - it

> is open to all professions, citizens, patients and friends. Read

the AOMNC's

> mission statement and visit this website OFTEN so as to keep

abreast what is

> happening in this profession.

>

> Hope that you and others will be better informed by all of these

sources of

> information and then make up your own mind.

>

> Best regards,

> Richard A. Freiberg, DOM, DAc, NMD

> Founder/Director AOMNC

>

>

>

>

> > > john howard <johnhoward71>

> > >Acupuncture

> > >

> > >Can some one tell me what acupuncture really is, how

> > >does it work and what it is good for.

> >

>

>

>

>

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Let's get our figures correct. No tens of thousands of practitioners out

there unless you like to spin numbers.

 

If you are an acupuncture needle technician I would agree that the public

doesn't care. As an OMD/DOM they do care. When a 'qualified practitioner' is at

the same time a 'primary care practitioner'.......they absolutely care.

 

The increased standards are coming whether you or I care. In those arenas

where we are primary care physicians...the system demands it - otherwise there

is

NO reimbursement and possibly more importantly there is no recognition of all

we claim to be and to be able to accomplish.

 

The majority of practitioners have difficulty earning a substantial living

due mostly to non-recognition and limited or non-reimbursement. If we are part

of the system then we need to play the game as it exists. If we don't wish to

be part of the system....then we should give up our licenses and go under

ground.

 

When we want to go to a sports event - we PAY to get in. The system WILL

require the future practitioners that cost. Just the way it is. And hopefully in

those states where there are activists and practitioners who get off their

butts and talk to their legislators.....all previous licensees will be 'grand

fathered' to the title - not the degree. Thats just the way of the world.

 

We have already opened the titles years ago here in Florida. Where are you

and whats happening in your state?

 

Obviously many do not understand that it is not really about additional

education or being a medicare provider for the business.. but the STATUS of

'Statutory Medicare Provider' means the best qualified are recognized by the

federal

governemnt. That's what really counts. Ponder that idea and maybe see the

truth to it.

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 5/27/03 7:27:06 PM, acududeman writes:

 

<< Consumers do not care how much education we have. Increasing

 

education will only reduce the number of people who will be able to

 

afford to go into the profession, and increase the costs for the

 

consumer.

 

I am fully in favor of every state changing its laws so that licensed

 

acupuncturists can call themselves " OMD " or " DOM " , but why increase

 

the educational standards? Tens of thousands of practitioners have

 

been trained with the " Masters degree level " as the educational

 

standard. Now this is not enough?

 

Does anybody feel that Chinese medicine is not primary care? Do we

 

not excel at treating the conditions that people see their primary

 

care physicians for? Are we currently not as qualified and prepared

 

to treat as primary care physicians? Will a few more science classes

 

make someone such a better acupuncturist that the rest of us can

 

serve as their assistants?

 

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My figures are based on the National Acupuncture Foundation report

published on page 26 of The Acupuncture Alliance Forum Winter 2001-

2002 edition. They report 12,384 licensed acupuncturists, 1200 in New

York as of 2000. The number in New York State has more then doubled

since then, so if the national average followed New York there would

be more then 25000 acupuncturists. If the national growth rate is

half of New York it would still be approaching 20000.

 

I stand behind my training. I stand behind OM that has been practiced

for thousands of years. OM has not spread in this country due to the

enthusiasm of the government, the insurance industry, or the Western

medical community. It has spread because we treat many conditions

that Western docs can't, and many conditions we treat better, cheaper

and safer than Western medicine.

 

In place of spending more time in school, I would rather see those

hours used for practice development and legislative activities. Our

profession will only be advanced through difficult and creative

political effort.

 

Our profession is not legitimized by taking science and research

methods classes. It is legitimized by its effectiveness as a primary

(exclusive) care modality with 3000 years of success behind it.

 

acupuncture , acudoc11@a... wrote:

> Let's get our figures correct. No tens of thousands of

practitioners out

> there unless you like to spin numbers.

>

> If you are an acupuncture needle technician I would agree that the

public

> doesn't care. As an OMD/DOM they do care. When a 'qualified

practitioner' is at

> the same time a 'primary care practitioner'.......they absolutely

care.

>

> The increased standards are coming whether you or I care. In those

arenas

> where we are primary care physicians...the system demands it -

otherwise there is

> NO reimbursement and possibly more importantly there is no

recognition of all

> we claim to be and to be able to accomplish.

>

> The majority of practitioners have difficulty earning a substantial

living

> due mostly to non-recognition and limited or non-reimbursement. If

we are part

> of the system then we need to play the game as it exists. If we

don't wish to

> be part of the system....then we should give up our licenses and go

under

> ground.

>

> When we want to go to a sports event - we PAY to get in. The system

WILL

> require the future practitioners that cost. Just the way it is. And

hopefully in

> those states where there are activists and practitioners who get

off their

> butts and talk to their legislators.....all previous licensees will

be 'grand

> fathered' to the title - not the degree. Thats just the way of the

world.

>

> We have already opened the titles years ago here in Florida. Where

are you

> and whats happening in your state?

>

> Obviously many do not understand that it is not really about

additional

> education or being a medicare provider for the business.. but the

STATUS of

> 'Statutory Medicare Provider' means the best qualified are

recognized by the federal

> governemnt. That's what really counts. Ponder that idea and maybe

see the

> truth to it.

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 5/27/03 7:27:06 PM, acududeman writes:

>

> << Consumers do not care how much education we have. Increasing

>

> education will only reduce the number of people who will be able to

>

> afford to go into the profession, and increase the costs for the

>

> consumer.

>

> I am fully in favor of every state changing its laws so that

licensed

>

> acupuncturists can call themselves " OMD " or " DOM " , but why increase

>

> the educational standards? Tens of thousands of practitioners have

>

> been trained with the " Masters degree level " as the educational

>

> standard. Now this is not enough?

>

> Does anybody feel that Chinese medicine is not primary care? Do we

>

> not excel at treating the conditions that people see their primary

>

> care physicians for? Are we currently not as qualified and prepared

>

> to treat as primary care physicians? Will a few more science

classes

>

> make someone such a better acupuncturist that the rest of us can

>

> serve as their assistants?

>

> >>

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