What do you think about the gov needs to take care of us because...

July 27, 2009

Well, since you asked...I happen to have strong opinions on

this monstrosity of a " plan. " I think most of us are much

better off when the government stays OUT of my life, perhaps especially

when it comes to medicine. Are you aware that one of the provisions

in this " bill " states that if you don't get government-mandated

vaccinations, they will send someone to your house for an

" intervention " ? (In other words, you'll take the shot at

gunpoint.) I don't take flu shots, and have only had bonafide flu

once or twice in the last decade. I don't want to have meds forced

on me, thank you.

Also, on page 16 of this " bill, " we learn that while you can

keep your existing insurance for now, the moment you make a change (add

or subtract people from the policy, change jobs, etc.), the ONLY

insurance you may have is the government " plan. " And, if

you read it all, you'll learn that you can't opt out. You HAVE to

have some kind of insurance, or pay penalties. I currently do have

insurance, but if I don't want it, that should be my right.

The whole enchilada is here:

http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20090714/aahca.pdf

It's written in legalese, but it's understandable to most, with the

possible exceptions of congresscritters. Most of them have decided

it's beneath them to actually READ a bill they're going to vote on.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't know what they would like to do

to the country. (And for the record, most of them have already

admitted they would not choose this program for their families.

Good enough for us, but obviously not for them.)

And Doc, you already know that I think using DEEM, acupressure, good

diet, and energy psychology works far better than standard medicine, with

the exception of accident injuries, etc. If these guys wanted to

create a good, cost-saving program, fund some of the alternative medicine

programs, especially the ones we discuss here. Teach people who to

care for themselves. (I actually have relatives who could fill a

whole suitcase full with their prescriptions, yet act as though the

things I do are nuts. Who's nuts? I feel great, they feel

like cr*p.) Some of these people think there's something wrong with

taking care of themselves, that only a doctor can do that.

Jeanne

At 12:28 AM 7/27/2009, you wrote:

" Fred P. Gallo, Ph.D. " <fgallo wrote:

> If the US goes to the kind of system in the UK, it's possible that

>things could get worse yet: You know: rationing, lower fees to

>providers, stress on the system, etc.

I don't get it?

What ever happened to 'self-responsibility'?

Why do we need to depend on a government controlled anything to get

healthier?

Why not use the energy medicine (Eden, etc) and energy psychology (Gallo,

Callahan, etc) to help ourselves.

Why not eat right?

Why not use the CARE process?

And as far as the military goes, isn't there some type of socialized

medicine for the ex-military already?

So those that are ex-service have already earned that type of

support?

John La Tourrette, PhD

PS. This entire thread seems to me to be a political thread and has

virtually nothing to do with energy psychology or the energy medicine

technologies.

PPS. It seems to me about people that want something for nothing.

Group, what do you think?

July 28, 2009

>.I happen to have strong opinions on this monstrosity of a " plan. "

-

What sort of Plan would you prefer?

Living next door to the Exited States, I travel frequently in your country

and I love a lot of it.

But it is hard to comprehend that in some ways you are sooo Backward down

there.

The only country, out of step with the World, that is not Metric and

still measures temperature in Farenheit and liquid in Gallons and not ever a

real gallon but some invented size that is only found in your Country

[what's that all about anyway].

And NO PUBLIC HEALTH INSURANCE?

Sheesh!

I hear some grumbling from Americans about our health plan, but only from

those who don't know beans about it.

We face some problems with our plan but not the nightmare that the U.S. Mix

and match hodge podge plan create.

The single most expensive part of our plan that needs addressing is keeping

dying people alive with incredibly expensive equipment.

And mandated innoculations have nothing whatsoever to do with who pays the

medical bills. How you can make that connection is a leap to confusion.

> Why not use the energy medicine (Eden, etc) and energy psychology (Gallo,

> Callahan, etc) to help ourselves.

TCM, Doctors are covered by Medicare in this country.

-

I do agree with Doc. about keeping yourself healthy.

I do my EM and QiGong drills daily.

Having said that, I had to take a MANDATED MEDICAL EXAM for my class One

drivers permit and found out at that time that I have extremly high blood

pressure and was put on meds immediately.

I am alive today because I take my meds daily.

I pay very little for the meds but I do pay 105 Dollars monthly into the

Medicare system.

It's a bloody bargain.

rusty

[in case you hadn't guessed], from Canada.

-

Jeanne Garner

Monday, July 27, 2009 5:45 AM

Re: What do you think about the

gov needs to take care of us because...

Well, since you asked...I happen to have strong opinions on this monstrosity

of a " plan. " I think most of us are much better off when the government

stays OUT of my life, perhaps especially when it comes to medicine. Are you

aware that one of the provisions in this " bill " states that if you don't get

government-mandated vaccinations, they will send someone to your house for

an " intervention " ? (In other words, you'll take the shot at gunpoint.) I

don't take flu shots, and have only had bonafide flu once or twice in the

last decade. I don't want to have meds forced on me, thank you.

Also, on page 16 of this " bill, " we learn that while you can keep your

existing insurance for now, the moment you make a change (add or subtract

people from the policy, change jobs, etc.), the ONLY insurance you may have

is the government " plan. " And, if you read it all, you'll learn that you

can't opt out. You HAVE to have some kind of insurance, or pay penalties.

I currently do have insurance, but if I don't want it, that should be my

right.

The whole enchilada is here:

http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20090714/aahca.pdf

It's written in legalese, but it's understandable to most, with the possible

exceptions of congresscritters. Most of them have decided it's beneath them

to actually READ a bill they're going to vote on. That doesn't mean we

shouldn't know what they would like to do to the country. (And for the

record, most of them have already admitted they would not choose this

program for their families. Good enough for us, but obviously not for

them.)

And Doc, you already know that I think using DEEM, acupressure, good diet,

and energy psychology works far better than standard medicine, with the

exception of accident injuries, etc. If these guys wanted to create a good,

cost-saving program, fund some of the alternative medicine programs,

especially the ones we discuss here. Teach people who to care for

themselves. (I actually have relatives who could fill a whole suitcase full

with their prescriptions, yet act as though the things I do are nuts. Who's

nuts? I feel great, they feel like cr*p.) Some of these people think

there's something wrong with taking care of themselves, that only a doctor

can do that.

Jeanne

At 12:28 AM 7/27/2009, you wrote:

" Fred P. Gallo, Ph.D. " <fgallo wrote:

> If the US goes to the kind of system in the UK, it's possible that >things

> could get worse yet: You know: rationing, lower fees to >providers, stress

> on the system, etc.

I don't get it?

What ever happened to 'self-responsibility'?

Why do we need to depend on a government controlled anything to get

healthier?

Why not use the energy medicine (Eden, etc) and energy psychology (Gallo,

Callahan, etc) to help ourselves.

Why not eat right?

Why not use the CARE process?

And as far as the military goes, isn't there some type of socialized

medicine for the ex-military already?

So those that are ex-service have already earned that type of support?

John La Tourrette, PhD

PS. This entire thread seems to me to be a political thread and has

virtually nothing to do with energy psychology or the energy medicine

technologies.

PPS. It seems to me about people that want something for nothing.

Group, what do you think?

July 28, 2009

Hi Rusty

I use beet juice for my blood pressure it will lower mine about 20 points with

fresh beet juice and the freeze dried organic stuff- Ill use b6 with it, it

cleans out the veins too and gets rid of inflammation and a bunch of other

stuff I spoke up on this as my mother has real high blood pressure and they

have her on extra stuff to combat it.

Beet juice is easy and its healthy too I put in my orange juice Dana

--- On Mon, 7/27/09, rusty <lwinmorgan wrote:

rusty <lwinmorgan

Re: What do you think about the gov

needs to take care of us because...

Monday, July 27, 2009, 11:11 PM

>.I happen to have strong opinions on this monstrosity of a " plan. "

-

What sort of Plan would you prefer?

Living next door to the Exited States, I travel frequently in your country

and I love a lot of it.

But it is hard to comprehend that in some ways you are sooo Backward down

there.

The only country, out of step with the World, that is not Metric and

still measures temperature in Farenheit and liquid in Gallons and not ever a

real gallon but some invented size that is only found in your Country

[what's that all about anyway].

And NO PUBLIC HEALTH INSURANCE?

Sheesh!

I hear some grumbling from Americans about our health plan, but only from

those who don't know beans about it.

We face some problems with our plan but not the nightmare that the U.S. Mix

and match hodge podge plan create.

The single most expensive part of our plan that needs addressing is keeping

dying people alive with incredibly expensive equipment.

And mandated innoculations have nothing whatsoever to do with who pays the

medical bills. How you can make that connection is a leap to confusion.

> Why not use the energy medicine (Eden, etc) and energy psychology (Gallo,

> Callahan, etc) to help ourselves.

TCM, Doctors are covered by Medicare in this country.

-

I do agree with Doc. about keeping yourself healthy.

I do my EM and QiGong drills daily.

Having said that, I had to take a MANDATED MEDICAL EXAM for my class One

drivers permit and found out at that time that I have extremly high blood

pressure and was put on meds immediately.

I am alive today because I take my meds daily.

I pay very little for the meds but I do pay 105 Dollars monthly into the

Medicare system.

It's a bloody bargain.

rusty

[in case you hadn't guessed], from Canada.

-

Jeanne Garner

healingenergies- essentialskills

Monday, July 27, 2009 5:45 AM

Re: [healingenergies- essentialskills] What do you think about the