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Hi! I appreciate the answers here! Cool! I will reply to some of what you

said in my reply to Walter's helpful post too.

 

 

 

 

>darthon4 <darthon4

>May 24, 2007 12:05 AM

>

> Re: Homolateral " lines " ?

>

 

>

>Often the energies running backwards is just your body telling you to

>get some sleep. So that's a correction for backwards moving meridian

>energy too. If you are chronically fatigued, that's another story.

 

I know how to get to sleep. I just don't want to. Like Friday night, I was

exhausted and grumpy as a Scrooge. I knew I needed to get to sleep and my brain

was too tired to do good thinking, so I wanted to get some good sleep, wake up,

and get lots of work done on some products I'm creating that have to be done

real soon.

 

So I went to sleep. I woke up and had some awesome ideas, and the ideas got me

hyper enough that I couldn't / didn't want to get back to sleep. I wrote a

whole bunch of notes down, mapped out TWO DVD'S Worth of materials, and now it's

almost time to get up, and I'm tired. LOL I suppose I should go sleep some and

then get up and film. Sometimes I do my best videos late at night anyways...

 

 

 

 

>

>Which reminds me,I feel like it's time for my after dinner nap.

>I wonder what that might have to do with my meridians? Let's see....

>

>As for that guy you saw, if it were possible I'd do the " Energy

>Tracker " sequence of tests on him to zero in on what the specific

>energy issues are. Also the vivaxis test, because I remember what a

>dramatic improvement it made to my energies when Doc discovered my

>vivaxis was out and he corrected it.

>

 

I will have to look up the " Energy Tracker " as I'm not familiar with it. I need

to go review Doc's posts on Vivaxis also because I don't recall anything about

it, other than a person who has one or more Vivaxis fields out will be weakened

when facing that direction.

 

 

>For certain right from the start someone like him needs the daily

>routine, plus some daily spleen strengthening and TW sedating techniques.

>

>Maybe someone else can address your question on the grid as I've not

>learned that energy system....yet.

>

>I'm sure having fun with energies in the meantime though :-)

>

>Good luck and keep having fun practicing!

>

 

Yep! Lots of fun practicing! Wish I had done more of this sooner, although I

suppose I had other things I was working on back then that I needed to take care

of.

 

Jim

 

 

>Lori

>

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Hi Walter! Awesome to hear from you again! Missed seeing you the last time I

was in town!

 

 

>Walter Hurlbut <whurlbut

>May 23, 2007 11:27 PM

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>RE: Homolateral " lines " ?

>

>Hi Jim,

>

>Before I went to Donna EdensÂ’ seminar I thought homolateral was energy

>flowing backwards too. And like you, I thought I heard Doc say it

 

LOL, I don't recall saying I " thought " I heard Doc say that homolateral was

energy flowing backwards. I'd put money on hearing him talk about people whose

energies were flowing backwards and having long-term homolateral causing it.

 

I got source materials from Donna and David to back it up, and I'll get to it in

a moment...

 

The seminar I'm recalling was 6 or so years ago. I think it was 2001 at the

Huna Convention. That's the seminar where the camera guy f'd up the videos, and

Doc had to throw them out. So no way to go back to them.

 

My point is that I'm also sure you are correct in what you said about what you

heard.

 

AND, yes, looking in Donna's books, Homolateral and Meridians Running Backwards

are in two separate sections.

 

So it is possible for someone to have meridians running backwards and not be

long-term homolateral.

 

I guess that's similar to all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are

squares.

 

Anyway, the guy I saw had lots of signs of long-term homolateral. And when

someone is long term homolateral with TW overload (his looked " burned out " sort

of like " scorched earth " in his energy field), then the TW screws up the other

meridians except the heart meridian, at least with long term homolateral.

 

 

 

in a

>seminar. I must have been wrong. We all delete, distort and generalize.

>

>I find it an amazing coincidence that you and I made the same distortion.

>

>When I was talking to another trainer at the seminar she told me that was

>wrong and explained that homolateral means that energies that normally cross

>in the body such as neural energy from the brain to the body (left brain to

>right side and visa versa) were not crossing but running straight down the

>same side.

>

>The energy reversal you are talking about is treated with such drills as the

>spoon on the foot drill. Or the person lying down and spinning energy into

>their feet from a distance. There is also re-energizing the crown chakra and

>many other drills I am sure.

>

>Of course, having the petty darned good long term memory that I do I would

>swear I had heard it the same way as you in a seminar. So I went and asked

>Doc at the next break and he said verbatim what the other trainer had just

>told me.

>

 

Well, yes, you are correct.

 

AND, I remember Doc talking about people who were LONG-TERM homolateral, and the

problems with long-term TW overload.

 

Check out Energy Psychology Interactive, p. 66.

 

After the correction drills for meridians running backwards, it says IF that did

not correct the condition of meridians running backwards to have the person do

the Homolateral Crossover Drill.

 

 

 

 

 

>I suspect what happened to us was that he went from one topic to the next

>very quickly in one of his seminars and you and I were left behind with a

>little temporal lapse that tied those two separate conditions into one in

>our minds. I suggest you energy test this and see if that fits for you Jim.

>

 

LOL Doc covers so much material that everyone goes into overload at his

seminars. AND, at the time, I knew even less about energies than I do now. And

I've gotten details wrong before, of course. I remember when I was a kid and my

dad would work on the car and show me stuff in the electrical system. I got

distributor and ignition confused. I got distributor and rotor confused. I got

confused on lots of stuff. So I called them by the wrong name.

 

So yeah it's possible. What I believe happened, though, is Doc was talking

about people who are long-term homolateral with TW overload, and he did the

homolateral tests on them to prove it to them. He also had them walking

backwards (which tests meridians running backwards), and he had them do the " I

OWN THIS ANGER! " drill, along with the three thumps.

 

Now I'm sure he was doing several things all at once, and yes, you are correct

that the two are separate conditions. Instead of a " black and white " or " all or

nothing, " though, I believe we're both correct, based on what I recall and what

I read and what I saw.

 

I SHOULD have explained better that the guy had real bad TW and homolateral

problems. I was not convinced that the " lines " I saw outside his energy field

were indicators of homolateral or not (although I suspected it, and then Doc

posted his post which helped me a lot too!). Anyway, as I was in that state of

mind where I was seeing energies, the first thing that popped into my mind was

what Doc taught us about those conditionS of homolateral and energies running

backwards.

 

Yes, you are correct that they are two different conditions. And I believe I am

correct in remembering Doc demonstrating on people whose energies were running

backwards BECAUSE of long-term homolateral, and when I asked with segment

intending, the answer I got regarding the person I saw that day was he had lots

of problems from long-term homolateral.

 

 

 

>As to a shut down spleen meridianÂ…I bet his TW was in overdrive too wasnÂ’t

>it?

>

 

His TW was the WORSE TW I am aware of ever seeing. I've seen hate and rage

flowing from someone's TW before, but not what I saw with that guy. He had such

LONG-TERM TW problems, it almost resembled " scorched earth " in his energy field.

" Scorched earth " is when the enemy is retreating and he burns / blows up

everything as he retreats so the opponent can't use any of the resources left

behind.

 

That's what his energy field around the TW looked like or what I thought of when

I saw it.

 

And when I walked up to get more food, as I walked back, I looked at him, and

his arms had big brown " splotches " that were turning to scabs that reminded me

also of what Doc posted a long time ago about how that's an indicator of

someone's immune system being shot.

 

I was asking what the guy would need to do to get better, and as he was eating,

I noticed the food he was eating was REAL BAD for him too. I can't comment much

on that, because I was eating some of the same stuff. LOL

 

Ain't " Law of Allowing " Grate! hahaha

 

Anyways, what's awesome to me is that regardless of overload or even forgetting

some of the drills or conversations over time, the SKILLS and the ability to use

them to KNOW things and to put the KNOWLEDGE to use is still there.

 

Funny thing: After watching that guy as he was eating, I didn't eat as much as

I had planned and stopped sooner than I normally would have.

 

Anyhow, yes, you are correct that the two conditions are separate conditions.

And, I would never misquote Doc like that on purpose, either.

 

I should have emphasized more clearly that the person I was looking at was long

term homolateral with massive TW overload and that was what I sensed was causing

the meridians to run backwards, as I recalled Doc demonstrating in seminars how

that can happen.

 

Anyways, glad you posted BECAUSE I also needed to separate the two conditions

BECAUSE everytime I saw a meridian running backwards, I blamed it on TW causing

homolateral. Nice to know it could just be from being tired and needing to rest

or whatever. AND I learned some other cool stuff too, although it's just for

me, so I won't post it.

 

I appreciate hearing from you. Thanks for the posts! Hope to see you and Lori

and everybody else again soon!

 

Jim

 

 

 

>Glad to know I am not the only one that ever did that distortion,

>

>Walter

>

>

>

>On Behalf Of James

>R. Knippenberg

>Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:25 PM

> ;

>psychicclose-encounters

>Cc: creative_energies

> Homolateral " lines " ?

>

>

>Hi! I remember Doc saying that homolateral means the energies

>are running backwards, and I remember the X and the two lines

>test.

>

>Ok, so I'm at a pizza buffet recently, and a guy is walking with

>his back facing me, and I see LINES -- a line on either side of

>him, outside of his body. The lines had " electrical "

>properties -- light bluish color.

>

>I didn't know what it was.

>

>Then I noticed he was homolateral.

>

>Is that what the two lines meant? Or something else?

>

>And when he came back and the front of his body was facing me, I

>SAW that his spleen meridian was " gone " . In other words, nothing

>was where the spleen meridian is supposed to be.

>

>I do not know if this means that energy just wasn't flowing

>there, but the impression I got was " his spleen meridian was

>GONE. "

>

>Is this possible for a meridian to be missing? Or is it just

>clogged / stopped somewhere so nothing is flowing through it? I

>think I have seen " clogged " and " congested " meridians before, and

>I've seen some (TW, for example) running backwards, and I've seen

>a spleen meridian running backwards before, so is it POSSIBLE for

>a spleen meridian to be completely gone?

>

>If so, does that mean the person is screwed? Or can it be fixed?

>I think I've read or heard someone talking about " ripping out " a

>person's meridian. Are there ways that sort of thing can be done

> " naturally " ? And how would you correct that? Can it be corrected

>with hypnosis and suggestion? Or does it require Energy Medicine

>techniques? I don't know if it's related to " grid " or not,

>because Doc has posted before that in order to fix the grid, all

>the other energies have to be running correctly first. Which

>means the spleen meridian has to work.

>

>How would you fix that? Build a new one with " aka " ? Or is there

>some other or some better way? The guy is still alive, so it

>ain't over...

>

>Thanks,

>Jim

>

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Hi Jim,

 

" Energy Tracker " is an advanced class Donna taught a few years ago. I

didn't attend it, I do have her DVD's from it though. They've been

very helpful as far as sorting out many of the different tests and

corrections for energy issues.

 

Lori

 

 

, " James R.

Knippenberg " <erommel wrote:

>

>

 

>

> I will have to look up the " Energy Tracker " as I'm not familiar with

it. I need to go review Doc's posts on Vivaxis also because I don't

recall anything about it, other than a person who has one or more

Vivaxis fields out will be weakened when facing that direction.

>

>

 

>

> Jim

>

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