When done correctly surrogate distance tapping works!

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> Hi All,

>

> My take on surrogate tapping:

>

> * I agree with Gary Craig, who explains it as

> prayer.

 

Then we get into the task of defining prayer, don't we?

 

What is one man's prayer is another man's voodoo, right?

 

Joseph Murphy calls it the unification of your unconscious mind and

your conscious mind, at a very powerful level of mind (alpha or

theta)for a certain task.

 

Jose Silva has the same definition.

 

Now in the book, " Be Careful Of What You Pray For Because You Might

Get It " , the author Dossey M.D. has much evidence that even NEGATIVE

distant prayer is effective.

 

Much of his evidence was researched by the Spindriff Association (a

religious organization) out of Eugene OR.

 

>You are sending energy with intention.

 

Yes, without intention, and the energy to back it up, it works less

well.

 

Or quoting both Murphy and Silva you need the power of emotions and

imagination from the unconscious mind directed by the conscious mind

towards a specific task.

 

And, according to Tad James, using surrogate methods on another

without their knowing actually has worked very well.

 

And, I've done the same thing, on DVD, where a client at one of my

seminars feels bad, and he leaves to go to the bath room, so I have

the classroom fix his energies while he is gone (off topic for this

forum), without his knowing, and he comes back feeling much better.

 

And, I've also installed a thought form of a bad, clumbsy kicker

into a black belt that is a very good kicker, without his knowledge,

and all of a sudden he was a bad clumbsy kicker.

 

And it is repeatable!

 

> It is not under your control how that energy

> is received, used, or reacted to.

 

Actually many people would disagree with that statement. And in my

opinion, people who believe that believe it out of fear. They just

don't want to believe that others can do something to them without

them knowing it.

 

Again Josephy Murphy, Jose Silva, many researchers from Dossey, to

Ingo Swann, Jack Swartz, all the way down, have a different opinion.

 

And those people mentioned are very good at what they do (did since

3 of those 5 are dead).

 

If you align your " prayer " (see above definition) with the

unconscious and conscious criteria of the person being " prayed " for,

then what you do at that level of mind is congruent with what they

are wanting.

 

So to work on someone unconsciously at a distance is and can be

done " if " you do your homework.

 

Can you work on others before they can formulated their own minds,

before the age of 10-12 years old. Sure. It happens daily in all

cultures.

 

Can anyone do it to an adult?

 

Nope, not to an adult.

 

For that you need a bit of practice.

 

Most people need specific training in building those conscious

bridges between the conscious mind and the unconscious mind. Then

they need to know how to elicit those unconscious criteria and meta-

programs of the person they wish to work on. Then they need to know

how to form proper thought forms, and to associate into those

thought forms so that their " prayer " (my definition, see above) and

their hypnosis, and their Tapping will work.

 

So I guess everyone is safe, right?

 

> * If someone else is acting a certain way that

> you are not agreeing with, first use EFT on

> YOUR reaction.

 

Good point.

 

> * Especially if you are a parent, trying to

> retrain a child, first use EFT to get rid of

> YOUR reaction to your child's behavior. This

> helps to clear up your filter so you can

> better understand what is going on with your

> child (read, without responding emotionally).

 

I wouldn't use the word " filter " . I would use the words " negative

emotional energy " , or your own unconscious " tag ends " in reference

to that child's behavior.

 

Why?

 

Because " filter " , if one is trained in NLP, is a much vaster and

confusing topic than is " negative emotional energy " or " tag ends " .

 

Because if you pray (see above definition) with negative energies

you are sending that same energy to your own unconscious fields, and

you are turning off the Radiant Circuits and turning on the Triple

Warmer of all concerned.

 

So EFT for bedwetting will work good on a child " if " you first get

rid of the negative tag ends, or adversions (negative emotions) you

might have when you do the surrogate tapping.

 

> * Personally, if I feel the need to tap for

> another person,

 

I almost never feel the need to tap or to pray for another.

 

I'll bet you are wonder why that is? Here's my answer.

 

That is because when most people use the word " pray " they have a

much different definition than I do.

 

Their underlaying presuppositions are that " they are better than the

other person and will act as an intermediary between God, the

heavenly forces and that poor other person " .

 

So many religious folk's prayers are a belittling of the other

person. ie, " He's an evil man, so I'll pray for him. He's a

bedwetter, so he needs my help. "

 

What I do feel the need to do is to " bless " the other person and all

the great attributes that they have, but that I sometimes tend to

forget about.

 

Much more can be said about this, but I won't do it now.

 

> * Off topic, I often use Huna to send mana to

 

Actually with the Ha Breath Rite written up by William Glover, you

are doing what Jose Silva does with his mind control technologies

based upon direct hypnosis.

 

Most people don't know it but Jose (founder of Mind Control) and Max

(the founder of Huna)were friends.

 

Glover learned from Max who had collaborated with Jose Silva. In

fact, just before Max committed suicide, Jose visited him and

attempted to heal him. Max was too far gone. The pain was too big,

so he ended it purposively with a shotgun.

 

Anyway, 8 years I took that Ha Breath Rite and developed something

for the World Huna Organization called the " Kahuna ESP mind "

that incorporates what hypnosis teaches, what the Kahuna taught and

what Energy Medicine teaches.

 

> the other person, without determining how they

> should/could/would act. Focusing energy on the

> outcome often helps create that outcome.

 

Okay, now I am confused. You've just given two completely different

ways in the above two sentences.

 

One way you (conscious mind, mana) send positive mana mana

(subconsious energy) and mana loa (superconscious energy).

 

So how is that mana mana and mana loa directed? Especially since you

mentioned sending it with " intention " above?

 

Sending mana mana and mana loa is much more than the simplistic

method of breathing in through the nose and out through the mouth

with rhymatic breating.

 

The other way you send positive mana mana and mana loa and you focus

the outcome as if already achieved.

 

You then send that positive future thought form " as if " true, to

your high self, and when there is a connection there is a rain of

blessings.

 

The rain of blessings is most easily explained as a feeling, an

ideomotor response you get when all the subconscious barriors (you

called them filters) are bypassed, cleared, etc, and the finished

thought form is accepted by the superconscious mind.

 

There are many effective methods of charging your thoughts, your

bodies 8 different energy fields (no I'm not talking about the Huna

mana, mana mana & mana loa), and the 9 energy field called the

electricals.

 

And it is easily proven and verified to the most hard core skeptic

that using energy on another person is going on continually, no

matter how some confused people " believe " it is not going on.

 

I demonstrated this while giving a presentation at the World Silva

Mind Control Convention back in 2000.

 

And Robert B. Stone wrote about it in his book " ESP for Business

Managers " .

 

What's all this goobly gook about?

 

Simply this.

 

When done correctly, surrogate tapping works.