Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 What might happen if a " group of doctors " he respects and trusts talked to him while he was asleep at night? And what if they used his convincer strategy for how he knows something is true? And what if they used his location for a place of safety and security? I don't know if you would use the dr. he has now or not, but maybe there is a dr. he had when he was a kid that he trust absolutely. Maybe that dr. knows of several cases where people did X, Y, & Z and they got cured, but only because of their strong desire, their belief, and the fact that they took action on that to do X, Y, & Z. Would you want the dream buried in his SCM? Or would you want to program it so he would be aware of it when he wakes up and his conscious mind gets to experiences some of the strong emotion from it too. Would you use 1 dream? Or multiple dreams? Jim " Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD " <kahunaviking Oct 12, 2005 7:35 AM Ohana List <huna-ohana > Re: how can you use the MD's model of the world to help Harry? --- kahunamaker <kahunamaker wrote: > --- " Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD " <kahunaviking> wrote: > > > > --- kahunamaker <kahunamaker> wrote: > > > > > " All you can do is try to stop it from getting > > > worse! " > > > > > > So, group, what would you say to this man? > > > > " So, do you want to stop it from getting worse? " > > ... i.e. start with his current belief system. > > so, Vince, how would you do that? Well ... Based on the additional information you posted after this, I wouldn't bother doing it that way. Based on the original question as a hypothetical I would assume ... 1. He's a client of mine. 2. He has some idea of what I do. So the " how " part on starting with his current belief system is feeding his words back to him. " So, do you want to stop it from getting worse? " It's not a yes/no question ... I wouldn't be listening for the content of his answer as much as listening, feeling, watching for " is he open to receiving further information from me? " > > > Why is the medical doctor telling him that? > > > Because that's his model of the world. > > So, how can you use the MD's model of the world to > help Harry? In the original context I would use the MD's model of " you can only stop it from getting worse " to re-frame any intervention. An example would be recommending the 5-minute energy workout " because it's been shown to stop your immune system from getting worse. " > > > What else could you do to help him? > > > Fix him. > > So, we start with which belief system and go where, > to do that? To fix him we start with my belief system and go to level to do that --Vince http://huna-ohana.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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