Migraines

[Guest guest]

<sigh> I knew this was the answer i would get but i was sort of hoping for some kind of miricle herb that i could just fix him with. I knew it wouldn't be that easy. I just wish there was something i could do to take away from his suffering. I really doubt that it is just a food allergy since his mother has had the same problem also. How long do you think someone would have to stay away from a certain food until they would know that is the problem? And this food wouldn't show up in allergy tests? Cause i know he has been tested for all of that with no results.

This will probably start to get off topic, but I'm i am considering what a big difference being with a ill person can do to my life. I feel so selfish cause i wonder how he would ever take care of me when i am always taking care of him. Will these horrible migraines be passed on to my children if we were to stay together? I don't know, but it's a big chance to take. I just feel so awful even thinking like this, but i don't know if he can even work a full time job when he is older and out of school. I want my husband to be strong and alert, but i don't want to abandon my boyfriend because he is so sick. i just dont' know what to do about such a hopeless situation like this. i don't know if i should stay with him and do everything i can to make his life easier or if i should move on to make my life happier and easier. I'm just really depressed right now and i wish there was some solution...

thanks for your advice, micheal. I would very much be interested in the young living distributors or any of the other ones you were talking about. If you can email me privately about that it would be most appreciated. I want to see if i can find somethign that at least relieves him a little, since obviously nothing will completely heal him.

 

* Irene

 

 

<<<<<<Sun, 13 Jan 2002 15:20:05 -0800

Michael Riversong <rivedu

Re: Migranes

 

Migraines are one of the toughest problems there is. Partly that's due to

the fact that there are so many causes, and it can be difficult at best to

track those down. Sometimes they're due to food allergies, particularly

wheat, corn, and nightshades (tomatos, peppers, and potatos). For some

people, simple elimination diets have worked well. But those don't work for

everyone -- in fact medically NOTHING has worked for everyone with this

condition.

 

I'm pretty sure Imitrex is an older drug, which used to be used for

depression before Valium was concocted. If i'm correct here, that drug

tends to be very hard on the kidneys, sometimes actually destroying them.

 

As for oils, there are a number of sources out there, including most health

food stores and many "New Age" gift shops. I have observed that

consistently the highest quality oils are those from Young Living, which is

a multilevel. I know a couple of distributors if you want to check that out

privately.>>>>>>

 

At 03:09 AM 1/13/02 EST, you wrote:

>Hi, ny name is Irene, I'm a lurker. I was just wondering.. my boyfriend has >really horrible migranes that last for days. He has had this ever since he >can remember and his mother has the same problem. They both recently started >taking Imatrex or something and it is helping a little, but really not >enough. I'm guessing that the panther piss wouldn't work for something this >severe, but i'm willing to give it a try (even though he isnt' too excited >about it).

>also i wanted to ask where to go and buy all of these oils?

>

>Thanx in advance, >Irene

>

 

 

 

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Wellllllll, I don't know that I agree with him NOT finding a permanent healing. As a matter of fact, I completely disagree with the concept. He will find it if he looks long and hard enough. I don't believe in giving up under any circumstances.

 

I don't know if you saw my earlier post on the subject, but 80% of all headaches are caused by bowel problems. Of course that leaves 20% which could be caused by who knows what else, but there are always solutions. Always.

 

I once had a patient who had horrendous migraines that nothing would touch including bowel cleansing which is the first area I always look in. We tried diet changes and herbs and many other things and they kept on persisting with a vengeance. I then tried a simple Dianetic Touch Assist, and about half an hour into the assist, he let out a blood curdling scream when I touched a certain spot on his head. After a few seconds, he looked up and with a clarity in his eyes I'd never seen there before and said, "It's gone!". That was 20 years ago, and he's never had a migraine since.

 

Now that was handling it from a Mental viewpoint, but it worked, and I've heard of many other successes along this line.

 

As far as whether or not you should keep the relationship is concerned, you need to decide if your boyfriend is a Negative or a Positive type. Is he survival oriented or is he always pulling others down around him? Does he have a positive outlook on life or is he always complaining about how bad things are and how hopeless life is? There are Negative individuals who specialize in bringing others down. If he's one of those, then drop him like a hot potato. If he's a good guy with just a few physical problems, then it would behoove you and him to help him find a solution. Life can be fun ;o)

 

The first place I'd look because of the odds is the bowel.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

-

Irene37420

herbal remedies

Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 AM

[herbal remedies] RE: migraines

<sigh> I knew this was the answer i would get but i was sort of hoping for some kind of miricle herb that i could just fix him with. I knew it wouldn't be that easy. I just wish there was something i could do to take away from his suffering. I really doubt that it is just a food allergy since his mother has had the same problem also. How long do you think someone would have to stay away from a certain food until they would know that is the problem? And this food wouldn't show up in allergy tests? Cause i know he has been tested for all of that with no results. This will probably start to get off topic, but I'm i am considering what a big difference being with a ill person can do to my life. I feel so selfish cause i wonder how he would ever take care of me when i am always taking care of him. Will these horrible migraines be passed on to my children if we were to stay together? I don't know, but it's a big chance to take. I just feel so awful even thinking like this, but i don't know if he can even work a full time job when he is older and out of school. I want my husband to be strong and alert, but i don't want to abandon my boyfriend because he is so sick. i just dont' know what to do about such a hopeless situation like this. i don't know if i should stay with him and do everything i can to make his life easier or if i should move on to make my life happier and easier. I'm just really depressed right now and i wish there was some solution... thanks for your advice, micheal. I would very much be interested in the young living distributors or any of the other ones you were talking about. If you can email me privately about that it would be most appreciated. I want to see if i can find somethign that at least relieves him a little, since obviously nothing will completely heal him. * Irene <<<<<<Sun, 13 Jan 2002 15:20:05 -0800 Michael Riversong <rivedu Re: Migranes Migraines are one of the toughest problems there is. Partly that's due to the fact that there are so many causes, and it can be difficult at best to track those down. Sometimes they're due to food allergies, particularly wheat, corn, and nightshades (tomatos, peppers, and potatos). For some people, simple elimination diets have worked well. But those don't work for everyone -- in fact medically NOTHING has worked for everyone with this condition. I'm pretty sure Imitrex is an older drug, which used to be used for depression before Valium was concocted. If i'm correct here, that drug tends to be very hard on the kidneys, sometimes actually destroying them. As for oils, there are a number of sources out there, including most health food stores and many "New Age" gift shops. I have observed that consistently the highest quality oils are those from Young Living, which is a multilevel. I know a couple of distributors if you want to check that out privately.>>>>>> At 03:09 AM 1/13/02 EST, you wrote: >Hi, ny name is Irene, I'm a lurker. I was just wondering.. my boyfriend has >really horrible migranes that last for days. He has had this ever since he >can remember and his mother has the same problem. They both recently started >taking Imatrex or something and it is helping a little, but really not >enough. I'm guessing that the panther piss wouldn't work for something this >severe, but i'm willing to give it a try (even though he isnt' too excited >about it). >also i wanted to ask where to go and buy all of these oils? > >Thanx in advance, >Irene

[Guest guest]

Dear Doc....

 

Great post. I found it to be personally inspiring!!! Much thanks!!!

 

For Irene:

 

Never let yourself get too hopeless. Always reach out as you are doing. I found that there isn't a "magic bullet" for we are complex creatures. You have to be dedicated to getting well. Personally I believe in detoxification. When I had severe migraines and a neurologist (don't scream everyone) wanted to put me in a headache clinic since I was too chemically sensitive to take Imitrex or any other pharmaceuticals marketed for this problem...I said "no way" to being a lab rat. He then gave me a diet that he called his migraine diet. When I followed the diet my "migraines" were gone. Neither he nor I had any idea what was really going on here.. but for me was a first little step into the very beginning of my healing journey. The migraine diet was pretty much what I have learned to do to date. Organic ..natural foods... no processed foods... no nitrates.. preservatives, additives...etc... No pickled or fermented foods. That's all I can remember.. but no doubt there was info regarding some fruits as well. That was a long time ago.

 

There are many paths and solutions available for better health....and healing.. As far as worrying about the headaches being passed on genetically.. I can only say that living a healthy lifestyle which is outlined in the files I have been reading and in learning about environmental controls is the way to go. I always say if I had only practiced what I do now.. I would never have gotten to the point that I did. I firmly believe in miracles that we make happen. In my opinion you have to break free of the mainstream medicine "grip" and look to natural healing solutions. By all rights I should have died several times over.. but I am living a life now that I never would have dreamed was possible and look forward to making it better.

 

 

I wish you good luck! Beth

 

 

Wellllllll, I don't know that I agree with him NOT finding a permanent healing. As a matter of fact, I completely disagree with the concept. He will find it if he looks long and hard enough. I don't believe in giving up under any circumstances.

 

I don't know if you saw my earlier post on the subject, but 80% of all headaches are caused by bowel problems. Of course that leaves 20% which could be caused by who knows what else, but there are always solutions. Always.

 

I once had a patient who had horrendous migraines that nothing would touch including bowel cleansing which is the first area I always look in. We tried diet changes and herbs and many other things and they kept on persisting with a vengeance. I then tried a simple Dianetic Touch Assist, and about half an hour into the assist, he let out a blood curdling scream when I touched a certain spot on his head. After a few seconds, he looked up and with a clarity in his eyes I'd never seen there before and said, "It's gone!". That was 20 years ago, and he's never had a migraine since.

 

Now that was handling it from a Mental viewpoint, but it worked, and I've heard of many other successes along this line.

 

As far as whether or not you should keep the relationship is concerned, you need to decide if your boyfriend is a Negative or a Positive type. Is he survival oriented or is he always pulling others down around him? Does he have a positive outlook on life or is he always complaining about how bad things are and how hopeless life is? There are Negative individuals who specialize in bringing others down. If he's one of those, then drop him like a hot potato. If he's a good guy with just a few physical problems, then it would behoove you and him to help him find a solution. Life can be fun ;o)

 

The first place I'd look because of the odds is the bowel.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.

505-772-5889

Dr.IanShillington

 

-

Irene37420

herbal remedies

Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 AM

[herbal remedies] RE: migraines

 

 

<sigh> I knew this was the answer i would get but i was sort of hoping for some kind of miricle herb that i could just fix him with. I knew it wouldn't be that easy. I just wish there was something i could do to take away from his suffering. I really doubt that it is just a food allergy since his mother has had the same problem also. How long do you think someone would have to stay away from a certain food until they would know that is the problem? And this food wouldn't show up in allergy tests? Cause i know he has been tested for all of that with no results.

This will probably start to get off topic, but I'm i am considering what a big difference being with a ill person can do to my life. I feel so selfish cause i wonder how he would ever take care of me when i am always taking care of him. Will these horrible migraines be passed on to my children if we were to stay together? I don't know, but it's a big chance to take. I just feel so awful even thinking like this, but i don't know if he can even work a full time job when he is older and out of school. I want my husband to be strong and alert, but i don't want to abandon my boyfriend because he is so sick. i just dont' know what to do about such a hopeless situation like this. i don't know if i should stay with him and do everything i can to make his life easier or if i should move on to make my life happier and easier. I'm just really depressed right now and i wish there was some solution...

thanks for your advice, micheal. I would very much be interested in the young living distributors or any of the other ones you were talking about. If you can email me privately about that it would be most appreciated. I want to see if i can find somethign that at least relieves him a little, since obviously nothing will completely heal him.

 

* Irene

 

 

<<<<<<Sun, 13 Jan 2002 15:20:05 -0800

Michael Riversong <rivedu

Re: Migranes

 

Migraines are one of the toughest problems there is. Partly that's due to

the fact that there are so many causes, and it can be difficult at best to

track those down. Sometimes they're due to food allergies, particularly

wheat, corn, and nightshades (tomatos, peppers, and potatos). For some

people, simple elimination diets have worked well. But those don't work for

everyone -- in fact medically NOTHING has worked for everyone with this

condition.

 

I'm pretty sure Imitrex is an older drug, which used to be used for

depression before Valium was concocted. If i'm correct here, that drug

tends to be very hard on the kidneys, sometimes actually destroying them.

 

As for oils, there are a number of sources out there, including most health

food stores and many "New Age" gift shops. I have observed that

consistently the highest quality oils are those from Young Living, which is

a multilevel. I know a couple of distributors if you want to check that out

privately.>>>>>>

 

At 03:09 AM 1/13/02 EST, you wrote:

>Hi, ny name is Irene, I'm a lurker. I was just wondering.. my boyfriend has

>really horrible migranes that last for days. He has had this ever since he

>can remember and his mother has the same problem. They both recently started

>taking Imatrex or something and it is helping a little, but really not

>enough. I'm guessing that the panther piss wouldn't work for something this

>severe, but i'm willing to give it a try (even though he isnt' too excited

>about it).

>also i wanted to ask where to go and buy all of these oils?

>

>Thanx in advance,

>Irene

[Guest guest]

Doc,

that reply gave me a little more hope and i thank you for that. but, what exactly is a Dianetic Touch Assist and where should we go to get such a procedure? Where do YOU work? ; ) I have never heard of it and neither has he and that is good since he has had every other test in the world done on him already. i cant' even imagine how happy i would feel if he was to recover. i think i would cry if i finally saw that faraway look disappear out of his eyes.

 

* Irene

 

 

<<<<<Message: 4

Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:44:42 -0700

"Ian Shillington N.D." <Dr.IanShillington

Re: RE: migraines

 

Wellllllll, I don't know that I agree with him NOT finding a permanent

healing. As a matter of fact, I completely disagree with the concept.

He will find it if he looks long and hard enough. I don't believe in

giving up under any circumstances.

 

 

 

I don't know if you saw my earlier post on the subject, but 80% of all

headaches are caused by bowel problems. Of course that leaves 20% which

could be caused by who knows what else, but there are always solutions.

Always.

 

I once had a patient who had horrendous migraines that nothing would

touch including bowel cleansing which is the first area I always look

in. We tried diet changes and herbs and many other things and they kept

on persisting with a vengeance. I then tried a simple Dianetic Touch

Assist, and about half an hour into the assist, he let out a blood

curdling scream when I touched a certain spot on his head. After a few

seconds, he looked up and with a clarity in his eyes I'd never seen

there before and said, "It's gone!". That was 20 years ago, and he's

never had a migraine since.

 

Now that was handling it from a Mental viewpoint, but it worked, and

I've heard of many other successes along this line.

 

As far as whether or not you should keep the relationship is concerned,

you need to decide if your boyfriend is a Negative or a Positive type.

Is he survival oriented or is he always pulling others down around him?

Does he have a positive outlook on life or is he always complaining

about how bad things are and how hopeless life is? There are Negative

individuals who specialize in bringing others down. If he's one of

those, then drop him like a hot potato. If he's a good guy with just a

few physical problems, then it would behoove you and him to help him

find a solution. Life can be fun ;o)

 

The first place I'd look because of the odds is the bowel.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.

505-772-5889

Dr.IanShillington

-

Irene37420

herbal remedies

Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 AM

[herbal remedies] RE: migraines

 

 

<sigh> I knew this was the answer i would get but i was sort of hoping

for some kind of miricle herb that i could just fix him with. I knew it

wouldn't be that easy. I just wish there was something i could do to

take away from his suffering. I really doubt that it is just a food

allergy since his mother has had the same problem also. How long do you

think someone would have to stay away from a certain food until they

would know that is the problem? And this food wouldn't show up in

allergy tests? Cause i know he has been tested for all of that with no

results.

This will probably start to get off topic, but I'm i am considering

what a big difference being with a ill person can do to my life. I

feel so selfish cause i wonder how he would ever take care of me when i

am always taking care of him. Will these horrible migraines be passed on

to my children if we were to stay together? I don't know, but it's a

big chance to take. I just feel so awful even thinking like this, but i

don't know if he can even work a full time job when he is older and out

of school. I want my husband to be strong and alert, but i don't want

to abandon my boyfriend because he is so sick. i just dont' know what

to do about such a hopeless situation like this. i don't know if i

should stay with him and do everything i can to make his life easier or

if i should move on to make my life happier and easier. I'm just really

depressed right now and i wish there was some solution...

thanks for your advice, micheal. I would very much be interested in

the young living distributors or any of the other ones you were talking

about. If you can email me privately about that it would be most

appreciated. I want to see if i can find somethign that at least

relieves him a little, since obviously nothing will completely heal him.

 

* Irene

 

 

<<<<<<Sun, 13 Jan 2002 15:20:05 -0800

Michael Riversong <rivedu

Re: Migranes

 

Migraines are one of the toughest problems there is. Partly that's

due to

the fact that there are so many causes, and it can be difficult at

best to

track those down. Sometimes they're due to food allergies,

particularly

wheat, corn, and nightshades (tomatos, peppers, and potatos). For

some

people, simple elimination diets have worked well. But those don't

work for

everyone -- in fact medically NOTHING has worked for everyone with

this

condition.

 

I'm pretty sure Imitrex is an older drug, which used to be used for

depression before Valium was concocted. If i'm correct here, that

drug

tends to be very hard on the kidneys, sometimes actually destroying

them.

 

As for oils, there are a number of sources out there, including most

health

food stores and many "New Age" gift shops. I have observed that

consistently the highest quality oils are those from Young Living,

which is

a multilevel. I know a couple of distributors if you want to check

that out

privately.>>>>>>

 

At 03:09 AM 1/13/02 EST, you wrote:

>Hi, ny name is Irene, I'm a lurker. I was just wondering.. my

boyfriend has

>really horrible migranes that last for days. He has had this ever

since he

>can remember and his mother has the same problem. They both recently

started

>taking Imatrex or something and it is helping a little, but really

not

>enough. I'm guessing that the panther piss wouldn't work for

something this

>severe, but i'm willing to give it a try (even though he isnt' too

excited

>about it).

>also i wanted to ask where to go and buy all of these oils?

>

>Thanx in advance,

>Irene

 

 

 

 

 

<<<<<<<Message: 4

Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:44:42 -0700

"Ian Shillington N.D." <Dr.IanShillington

Re: RE: migraines

 

Wellllllll, I don't know that I agree with him NOT finding a permanent

healing. As a matter of fact, I completely disagree with the concept.

He will find it if he looks long and hard enough. I don't believe in

giving up under any circumstances.

 

I don't know if you saw my earlier post on the subject, but 80% of all

headaches are caused by bowel problems. Of course that leaves 20% which

could be caused by who knows what else, but there are always solutions.

Always.

 

I once had a patient who had horrendous migraines that nothing would

touch including bowel cleansing which is the first area I always look

in. We tried diet changes and herbs and many other things and they kept

on persisting with a vengeance. I then tried a simple Dianetic Touch

Assist, and about half an hour into the assist, he let out a blood

curdling scream when I touched a certain spot on his head. After a few

seconds, he looked up and with a clarity in his eyes I'd never seen

there before and said, "It's gone!". That was 20 years ago, and he's

never had a migraine since.

 

Now that was handling it from a Mental viewpoint, but it worked, and

I've heard of many other successes along this line.

 

As far as whether or not you should keep the relationship is concerned,

you need to decide if your boyfriend is a Negative or a Positive type.

Is he survival oriented or is he always pulling others down around him?

Does he have a positive outlook on life or is he always complaining

about how bad things are and how hopeless life is? There are Negative

individuals who specialize in bringing others down. If he's one of

those, then drop him like a hot potato. If he's a good guy with just a

few physical problems, then it would behoove you and him to help him

find a solution. Life can be fun ;o)

 

The first place I'd look because of the odds is the bowel.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.

505-772-5889

Dr.IanShillington

-

Irene37420

herbal remedies

Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 AM

[herbal remedies] RE: migraines

 

 

<sigh> I knew this was the answer i would get but i was sort of hoping

for some kind of miricle herb that i could just fix him with. I knew it

wouldn't be that easy. I just wish there was something i could do to

take away from his suffering. I really doubt that it is just a food

allergy since his mother has had the same problem also. How long do you

think someone would have to stay away from a certain food until they

would know that is the problem? And this food wouldn't show up in

allergy tests? Cause i know he has been tested for all of that with no

results.

This will probably start to get off topic, but I'm i am considering

what a big difference being with a ill person can do to my life. I

feel so selfish cause i wonder how he would ever take care of me when i

am always taking care of him. Will these horrible migraines be passed on

to my children if we were to stay together? I don't know, but it's a

big chance to take. I just feel so awful even thinking like this, but i

don't know if he can even work a full time job when he is older and out

of school. I want my husband to be strong and alert, but i don't want

to abandon my boyfriend because he is so sick. i just dont' know what

to do about such a hopeless situation like this. i don't know if i

should stay with him and do everything i can to make his life easier or

if i should move on to make my life happier and easier. I'm just really

depressed right now and i wish there was some solution...

thanks for your advice, micheal. I would very much be interested in

the young living distributors or any of the other ones you were talking

about. If you can email me privately about that it would be most

appreciated. I want to see if i can find somethign that at least

relieves him a little, since obviously nothing will completely heal him.

 

* Irene

 

 

<<<<<<Sun, 13 Jan 2002 15:20:05 -0800

Michael Riversong <rivedu

Re: Migranes

 

Migraines are one of the toughest problems there is. Partly that's

due to

the fact that there are so many causes, and it can be difficult at

best to

track those down. Sometimes they're due to food allergies,

particularly

wheat, corn, and nightshades (tomatos, peppers, and potatos). For

some

people, simple elimination diets have worked well. But those don't

work for

everyone -- in fact medically NOTHING has worked for everyone with

this

condition.

 

I'm pretty sure Imitrex is an older drug, which used to be used for

depression before Valium was concocted. If i'm correct here, that

drug

tends to be very hard on the kidneys, sometimes actually destroying

them.

 

As for oils, there are a number of sources out there, including most

health

food stores and many "New Age" gift shops. I have observed that

consistently the highest quality oils are those from Young Living,

which is

a multilevel. I know a couple of distributors if you want to check

that out

privately.>>>>>>

 

At 03:09 AM 1/13/02 EST, you wrote:

>Hi, ny name is Irene, I'm a lurker. I was just wondering.. my

boyfriend has

>really horrible migranes that last for days. He has had this ever

since he

>can remember and his mother has the same problem. They both recently

started

>taking Imatrex or something and it is helping a little, but really

not

>enough. I'm guessing that the panther piss wouldn't work for

something this

>severe, but i'm willing to give it a try (even though he isnt' too

excited

>about it).

>also i wanted to ask where to go and buy all of these oils?

>

>Thanx in advance,

>Irene

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the vote of confidence Beth. You cut a mean piece of good advice yourself. ;o)

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

-

LJaguar2212

herbal remedies

Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:33 PM

Re: [herbal remedies] RE: migraines

Dear Doc....Great post. I found it to be personally inspiring!!! Much thanks!!!For Irene:Never let yourself get too hopeless. Always reach out as you are doing. I found that there isn't a "magic bullet" for we are complex creatures. You have to be dedicated to getting well. Personally I believe in detoxification. When I had severe migraines and a neurologist (don't scream everyone) wanted to put me in a headache clinic since I was too chemically sensitive to take Imitrex or any other pharmaceuticals marketed for this problem...I said "no way" to being a lab rat. He then gave me a diet that he called his migraine diet. When I followed the diet my "migraines" were gone. Neither he nor I had any idea what was really going on here.. but for me was a first little step into the very beginning of my healing journey. The migraine diet was pretty much what I have learned to do to date. Organic ..natural foods... no processed foods... no nitrates.. preservatives, additives...etc... No pickled or fermented foods. That's all I can remember.. but no doubt there was info regarding some fruits as well. That was a long time ago.There are many paths and solutions available for better health....and healing.. As far as worrying about the headaches being passed on genetically.. I can only say that living a healthy lifestyle which is outlined in the files I have been reading and in learning about environmental controls is the way to go. I always say if I had only practiced what I do now.. I would never have gotten to the point that I did. I firmly believe in miracles that we make happen. In my opinion you have to break free of the mainstream medicine "grip" and look to natural healing solutions. By all rights I should have died several times over.. but I am living a life now that I never would have dreamed was possible and look forward to making it better.I wish you good luck! BethWellllllll, I don't know that I agree with him NOT finding a permanent healing. As a matter of fact, I completely disagree with the concept. He will find it if he looks long and hard enough. I don't believe in giving up under any circumstances.I don't know if you saw my earlier post on the subject, but 80% of all headaches are caused by bowel problems. Of course that leaves 20% which could be caused by who knows what else, but there are always solutions. Always.I once had a patient who had horrendous migraines that nothing would touch including bowel cleansing which is the first area I always look in. We tried diet changes and herbs and many other things and they kept on persisting with a vengeance. I then tried a simple Dianetic Touch Assist, and about half an hour into the assist, he let out a blood curdling scream when I touched a certain spot on his head. After a few seconds, he looked up and with a clarity in his eyes I'd never seen there before and said, "It's gone!". That was 20 years ago, and he's never had a migraine since.Now that was handling it from a Mental viewpoint, but it worked, and I've heard of many other successes along this line.As far as whether or not you should keep the relationship is concerned, you need to decide if your boyfriend is a Negative or a Positive type. Is he survival oriented or is he always pulling others down around him? Does he have a positive outlook on life or is he always complaining about how bad things are and how hopeless life is? There are Negative individuals who specialize in bringing others down. If he's one of those, then drop him like a hot potato. If he's a good guy with just a few physical problems, then it would behoove you and him to help him find a solution. Life can be fun ;o)The first place I'd look because of the odds is the bowel.Love,Doc

[Guest guest]

Dear Irene,

A "Touch Assist" is in someway similar to the ancient practice of "The Laying on of Hands". One uses a finger to touch various areas of the body using only the single command, "Feel my finger". There is quite a bit more to learn about how to do it exactly, but it is basically very, very simple and anyone can do one. If you or anyone else is interested in the full procedure, and how to acquire the technical booklet, then please contact me off list.

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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Irene37420

herbal remedies

Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:58 AM

[herbal remedies] re: migraines

Doc, that reply gave me a little more hope and i thank you for that. but, what exactly is a Dianetic Touch Assist and where should we go to get such a procedure? Where do YOU work? ; ) I have never heard of it and neither has he and that is good since he has had every other test in the world done on him already. i cant' even imagine how happy i would feel if he was to recover. i think i would cry if i finally saw that faraway look disappear out of his eyes. * Irene <<<<<Message: 4 Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:44:42 -0700 "Ian Shillington N.D." <Dr.IanShillington Re: RE: migraines Wellllllll, I don't know that I agree with him NOT finding a permanent healing. As a matter of fact, I completely disagree with the concept. He will find it if he looks long and hard enough. I don't believe in giving up under any circumstances. I don't know if you saw my earlier post on the subject, but 80% of all headaches are caused by bowel problems. Of course that leaves 20% which could be caused by who knows what else, but there are always solutions. Always. I once had a patient who had horrendous migraines that nothing would touch including bowel cleansing which is the first area I always look in. We tried diet changes and herbs and many other things and they kept on persisting with a vengeance. I then tried a simple Dianetic Touch Assist, and about half an hour into the assist, he let out a blood curdling scream when I touched a certain spot on his head. After a few seconds, he looked up and with a clarity in his eyes I'd never seen there before and said, "It's gone!". That was 20 years ago, and he's never had a migraine since. Now that was handling it from a Mental viewpoint, but it worked, and I've heard of many other successes along this line. As far as whether or not you should keep the relationship is concerned, you need to decide if your boyfriend is a Negative or a Positive type. Is he survival oriented or is he always pulling others down around him? Does he have a positive outlook on life or is he always complaining about how bad things are and how hopeless life is? There are Negative individuals who specialize in bringing others down. If he's one of those, then drop him like a hot potato. If he's a good guy with just a few physical problems, then it would behoove you and him to help him find a solution. Life can be fun ;o) The first place I'd look because of the odds is the bowel. Love, Doc

[Guest guest]

Michael, thanks for posting this to the group! I always read them, there is so much information that I can use. Patty

[Guest guest]

Publicly, since others may benefit, i should say a couple things, and then i

will post privately later on the rest after compiling some data.

 

Usually when something is the result of a food allergy, results will be

clear within three days, unless the colon is heavily blocked. That's about

how long it takes for various residues to get out of the body under normal

circumstances.

 

One interesting thing i have seen in other areas, but not specifically with

migraines, is that often health problems will disappear when someone is

actively helping someone and seeing results. So many of us have horrible

jobs that we hate, and therefore rarely have the experience of knowing we

have helped someone. Therefore, sometimes the answer has involved becoming

a reading tutor at night, or giving a hand at a soup kitchen. And, i have

seen it happen where a spouse with health problems suddenly had to take care

of the other partner, and the original health problems disappeared. Another

thing that has happened in marriages where both people got sick, is that

their support for each other brought them to a level of love that they had

never imagined before. I'm thinking of a couple who i knew many years ago,

who both got cancer, and died within a couple months of each other. When i

visited their home, i could feel the love in the air. They were really

beautiful people, and even now thinking about them i get all goosebumpy.

 

Another thing to check is his work environment. He may be getting

constantly exposed to some chemical or ergonomic factor that is causing

this. Whenever doctors can't get a handle on something, the home and

workplace need an environmental analysis.

 

At 03:19 AM 1/15/02 EST, you wrote:

><sigh> I knew this was the answer i would get but i was sort of hoping for

>some kind of miricle herb that i could just fix him with. I knew it wouldn't

>be that easy. I just wish there was something i could do to take away from

>his suffering. I really doubt that it is just a food allergy since his

>mother has had the same problem also. How long do you think someone would

>have to stay away from a certain food until they would know that is the

>problem? And this food wouldn't show up in allergy tests? Cause i know he

>has been tested for all of that with no results.

>This will probably start to get off topic, but I'm i am considering what a

>big difference being with a ill person can do to my life. I feel so

>selfish cause i wonder how he would ever take care of me when i am always

>taking care of him. Will these horrible migraines be passed on to my children

>if we were to stay together? I don't know, but it's a big chance to take. I

>just feel so awful even thinking like this, but i don't know if he can even

>work a full time job when he is older and out of school. I want my husband

>to be strong and alert, but i don't want to abandon my boyfriend because he

>is so sick. i just dont' know what to do about such a hopeless situation

>like this. i don't know if i should stay with him and do everything i can to

>make his life easier or if i should move on to make my life happier and

>easier. I'm just really depressed right now and i wish there was some

>solution...

>thanks for your advice, micheal. I would very much be interested in the

>young living distributors or any of the other ones you were talking about.

>If you can email me privately about that it would be most appreciated. I

>want to see if i can find somethign that at least relieves him a little,

>since obviously nothing will completely heal him.

>

>* Irene

>

[Guest guest]

Very good data Michael and so true.

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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Michael Riversong

herbal remedies

Thursday, January 17, 2002 8:15 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] RE: migraines

Publicly, since others may benefit, i should say a couple things, and then iwill post privately later on the rest after compiling some data.Usually when something is the result of a food allergy, results will beclear within three days, unless the colon is heavily blocked. That's abouthow long it takes for various residues to get out of the body under normalcircumstances.One interesting thing i have seen in other areas, but not specifically withmigraines, is that often health problems will disappear when someone isactively helping someone and seeing results. So many of us have horriblejobs that we hate, and therefore rarely have the experience of knowing wehave helped someone. Therefore, sometimes the answer has involved becominga reading tutor at night, or giving a hand at a soup kitchen. And, i haveseen it happen where a spouse with health problems suddenly had to take careof the other partner, and the original health problems disappeared. Anotherthing that has happened in marriages where both people got sick, is thattheir support for each other brought them to a level of love that they hadnever imagined before. I'm thinking of a couple who i knew many years ago,who both got cancer, and died within a couple months of each other. When ivisited their home, i could feel the love in the air. They were reallybeautiful people, and even now thinking about them i get all goosebumpy.Another thing to check is his work environment. He may be gettingconstantly exposed to some chemical or ergonomic factor that is causingthis. Whenever doctors can't get a handle on something, the home andworkplace need an environmental analysis.

[Guest guest]

Hi Irene,

 

> I really doubt that it is just a food allergy since his

> mother has had the same problem also.

 

I don't doubt it at all. Michael's pretty smart and I enjoy his

posts. I think he's right, that food allergy could be a very likely

source. According to Naturopath, Dr. Peter D'Adamo, who studied

this in the laboratory setting for over a decade, then tried it on

his patients successfully, food allergies are based on what our

ancestors ate for the last 5 million years. You see, evolution is

usually a very slow process. The son is likely to eat foods he was

brought up eating by his mother, and those foods might be doing them

both in.

 

Michael is also right when he says that a food will effect us for

three days after we eat it. Now, if we're eating foods that don't

do well by us every day, then we're probably always having problems.

 

I would have sworn I didn't have food allergies. Not me. Plus, I'd

been tested for them by an allergist and almost nothing turned up.

So I knew that wasn't my problem. Then a gal where I work got

D'Adamo's book, " Eat Right 4 Your Type " , and started raving about it

to everyone. The " Type " refers to our blood types (O, A, B, AB).

D'Adamo had watched different foods mixed with different blood types

under a microscope and had observed that certain reactions were

predictable according to the blood type, almost with no variation,

no matter who the blood donor was. More and more folks at work

started sticking to what that book said and claimed more and

more " miracle cures " for all kinds of problems.

 

I had a host of things wrong with me, including migraines,

Fibromyalgia with tremendous back and neck pain, acid reflux, itchy

skin and eczema, a little cough, post-nasal drip, a fungus under a

couple of my toenails, etc -- I was a mess! I'd tried about

everything anyone had ever suggested, I was so desperate for help.

Finally, I gave in and went to the HFS for the book. The lady at

the HFS told me that of all the products she'd sold there over all

the years, that book got more rave reviews than anything. I thought

that was a surprisingly good endorsement.

 

The next day I started right in by avoiding the foods the lists said

I shouldn't eat. I started to feel better and wondered if it were

my imagination playing tricks on me. The second day I felt better

yet. Now, I may be unusual, but by the end of the third day I KNEW

this was helping me. My pain levels had dropped by about 75%! As I

continued to avoid the " bad " foods, my health continued to improve

until most of the symptoms were gone.

 

Now, how do I know Michael is right about the three day thing? If I

goof, or splurge, and eat the wrong food, I am *guaranteed* three

days of misery to follow. No question about it. Before I started

sticking to the food lists, I was almost always eating or drinking

something I shouldn't have. For instance, I can't take garden-

variety tea. But you guessed it, I was having a big 16-oz glass of

iced tea every day at lunch, figuring it was low calorie and I liked

it. Bad for me. Bananas were another bad food I had at least once

a week. I wouldn't eat a banana now at gunpoint because I know that

I will face three days of bad pain if I do. Corn was another. They

put cornstarch and corn syrup in practically every processed food!

Vinegar was another one. Vinegar was in all the salad dressings I

put on those nice salads I thought were so healthy for me -- not.

The way I was going, it was almost impossible for me to ever have a

good day.

 

You can see from this that it doesn't just refer to the foods we

think are " good " versus the ones we think are " junk " . For instance,

chocolate is on my okay list (though the fats used in it usually

aren't). Peanut butter is very beneficial for me. Gee -- I thought

it was just fattening junk food! Now I allow some in my diet.

OTOH, an orange, which we'd all think of as a healthy food, will do

me in. So just " eating better " isn't enough.

 

D'Adamo explains that when you're young, most of us won't feel a

huge difference. I've seen that borne out in that most young folks

don't notice much... but the ones who already have big problems

(migraines are indicitave that something is wrong) will definitely

notice a big difference quite soon. He said that when we're young

and eating wrong, we just get more colds and stuff. But when we get

older, the effects of eating these wrong foods (he never uses the

word " allergies " , but IMHO that's what it is) start catching up to

us and give us the big bad things, like cancer, diabetes, strokes

and heart attacks. I've noticed when older people tried the food

lists (like your B.F.'s mom), they usually see more dynamic

results. But in the case of someone young whose already got big

problems (I had a lot of migraines in my 20's), they're much more

likely to notice the results.

 

The book is good, and in all fairness to the good doctor, your B.F.

should buy it, but if he's short of funds, the answers are still

available to him, free. Find out what blood type your B.F. is. He

can ask a doctor to do it for him through a blod draw, he can order

a $15 kit through D'Adamo's web site, or better yet, all he has to

do is donate blood and they'll tell him (that's free, and it helps

someone else). Then go to the food lists on:

http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~sshapiro/ER4YT/FoodLists_TOC.html

Print out the list that is appropriate for your B.F. Ask him to

strictly avoid all the " Avoid " foods for one month, just as an

experiment. If he's suffering enough (and it sounds like he is),

he'll be willing to try about anything. I'll bet he'll start

feeling a lot better! After a month, have him sit down and have a

good helping of the food he most hated to give up. If it's an

offender, he'll know it for the next three days. That will make a

believer out of him, trust me.

 

Once he figures out what foods make him feel good, have him increase

his intake of organic raw fruits and veggies every day. That should

also make him feel better. Beth said it very well -- avoiding

processed junk with chemical additives is very curative. What we

put in our mouths can mean *everything* to how we feel.

 

Another thought -- headaches can come from having your neck out of

alignment. A good chiropractor can check that for him. Also, he

might need a pillow in his bed that gives his neck better support.

They make special pillows for that, and the best ones are made out

of latex. There are cheaper ones, but they tend to wear out about

every 3 months, in my experience, so they're not really cheaper at

all in the long run. A good foam shop can help him and set him up

with something that's just right for him at a reasonable price. If

it's coming from his neck, when he's starting to get a headache, you

can rub his neck for him (particularly the top two vertebrae) and

take his headaches away. Have him lie on the bed on his back, with

his head at a bottom corner. Pull up a chair, and have him scoot

his head partway into your lap. Dim the lights. Then rub away in

clockwise circles. If you find a " lump " , that will probably be a

vertebrae out of place and your rubbing it can help put it back into

place. He'll probably think you walk on water. <G>

 

I loved what Doc said about relationships. That's real wisdom! A

good, positive, loving man with headaches beats the dickens out of a

strong, healthy, whiney, selfish jerk -- any time! I've got a motto

here " No Wet Blankets! " Plus, I believe Doc is right -- there IS a

cure, or more likely, a combination of things that will bring your

B.F. to shining health (and his mom, too).

 

Melinda

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much for the compliments. I've been going through a bumpy patch

in my life lately and this list has been a valuable refuge. The opportunity

to use some of my hard-won knowledge, which is ordinarily just a collection

of useless facts which are kind of fun at parties, in helping random

wonderful people, is a real blessing. And, of course, i'm learning a lot,

because there are significant gaps in what i know. This is a great

collection of high-caliber people!

 

The information about the 72-hour rule first came to me while studying the

effects of marijuana back in the early 80's. I had gone through a very

difficult time quitting that stuff. In some government documents that were

given to me by a staffer at National Jewish Hospital in Denver -- this was a

real miracle -- it was clear that both alcohol and certain primary

substances in marijuana leave the body within 72 hours. (Of course

marijuana contains other substances that take a very long time to clear.)

Other research showed that this rule applies to many foods. Now it's

regarded as basic biology, as we understand more about the numerous

complexities of digestion.

 

I MUST get that blood types book. They don't have it at the Cheyenne

library, so maybe on the next paycheck...

 

At 12:39 AM 1/18/02 -0000, you wrote:

>

>Hi Irene,

>

>> I really doubt that it is just a food allergy since his

>> mother has had the same problem also.

>

>I don't doubt it at all. Michael's pretty smart and I enjoy his

>posts.

[Guest guest]

Dear Michael,

You most certainly deserve them. I know I get so busy sometimes that it seems as if I might not notice, but I do. I value your contributions to the list tremendously and especially love your articles on 'sound'/'music'. I don't know what this "bumpy" patch is that you're going through, but you can always call me if you wish to discuss it, or just to pass the time of day.

Much love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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Michael Riversong

herbal remedies

Friday, January 18, 2002 12:05 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] Re: migraines

Thanks so much for the compliments. I've been going through a bumpy patchin my life lately and this list has been a valuable refuge. The opportunityto use some of my hard-won knowledge, which is ordinarily just a collectionof useless facts which are kind of fun at parties, in helping randomwonderful people, is a real blessing. And, of course, i'm learning a lot,because there are significant gaps in what i know. This is a greatcollection of high-caliber people!The information about the 72-hour rule first came to me while studying theeffects of marijuana back in the early 80's. I had gone through a verydifficult time quitting that stuff. In some government documents that weregiven to me by a staffer at National Jewish Hospital in Denver -- this was areal miracle -- it was clear that both alcohol and certain primarysubstances in marijuana leave the body within 72 hours. (Of coursemarijuana contains other substances that take a very long time to clear.)Other research showed that this rule applies to many foods. Now it'sregarded as basic biology, as we understand more about the numerouscomplexities of digestion.I MUST get that blood types book. They don't have it at the Cheyennelibrary, so maybe on the next paycheck...At 12:39 AM 1/18/02 -0000, you wrote:>>Hi Irene,>>> I really doubt that it is just a food allergy since his >> mother has had the same problem also. >>I don't doubt it at all. Michael's pretty smart and I enjoy his >posts.

[Guest guest]

Dear Robin,

Of course you're going to have to look for the cause of these migraines of yours.

Coffee, Stress, Clogged Bowel and beating your head against a brick wall are the most common causes ;o)

The best solutions I've found to date are 1. Bowel Cleansing and 2. Panther Piss.

There are others but these would depend on your diet, lifestyle, etc. etc.

Hope this helps.

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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Robin

herbal remedies

Friday, February 22, 2002 9:47 AM

[herbal remedies] Migraines

Ok, here's one for ya'll--I have migraines and have for almost 20 years. Textbook case. Was takingall the meds morning, noon, night, onset, etc before I just stopped. Thatwas 12 years ago. Tried the feverfew and with more research, discovered two'types' of migraines--cold and hot. The feverfew works on the 'cold'variety, while I have the 'hot' kind. Mostly I wake up with them andthey'll last either for hours or days. RIght side of the head; sensitivityto smells, light, and sound; sometimes nausea & excess salivation alernatingwith dry mouth--like I said, textbook.These are the times I get them--huge low pressure fronts that move slowlythrough, and right before my monthly cycle. I do not have migraines whenI'm pregnant past the 1st trimester.Ok, so, what now? Other than Imitrex that works a lot of the time, and nowthat I'm out of that, I'm taking 1/2 doses of hydrocodone. I've tried manyalternative things, but with the wealth of knowledge here, thought I'd pickya'll brains.Thanks-Robin

[Guest guest]

Oh Doc, that wall IS the problem!!!! : )

 

Oh do tell what 'panther piss' is... do I have to go hunt down a

panther and follow it around? Do I need to break into the zoo at

night and embarras myself? I'm sure it's nothing like that, but

I'm curious nonetheless.

Thank you-

Robin

 

herbal remedies, " Ian Shillington N.D. "

<Dr.IanShillington@G...> wrote:

> Dear Robin,

> Of course you're going to have to look for the cause of these

migraines

> of yours.

> Coffee, Stress, Clogged Bowel and beating your head against

a brick wall

> are the most common causes ;o)

> The best solutions I've found to date are 1. Bowel Cleansing

and 2.

> Panther Piss.

> There are others but these would depend on your diet, lifestyle,

etc.

> etc.

> Hope this helps.

> Love,

> Doc

>

> Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

> 505-772-5889

> Dr.IanShillington@G...

> -

> Robin

> herbal remedies

> Friday, February 22, 2002 9:47 AM

> [herbal remedies] Migraines

>

>

> Ok, here's one for ya'll--

> I have migraines and have for almost 20 years. Textbook

case. Was

> taking

> all the meds morning, noon, night, onset, etc before I just

stopped.

> That

> was 12 years ago. Tried the feverfew and with more

research,

> discovered two

> 'types' of migraines--cold and hot. The feverfew works on the

'cold'

> variety, while I have the 'hot' kind. Mostly I wake up with them

and

> they'll last either for hours or days. RIght side of the head;

> sensitivity

> to smells, light, and sound; sometimes nausea & excess

salivation

> alernating

> with dry mouth--like I said, textbook.

>

> These are the times I get them--huge low pressure fronts that

move

> slowly

> through, and right before my monthly cycle. I do not have

migraines

> when

> I'm pregnant past the 1st trimester.

>

> Ok, so, what now? Other than Imitrex that works a lot of the

time,

> and now

> that I'm out of that, I'm taking 1/2 doses of hydrocodone. I've

tried

> many

> alternative things, but with the wealth of knowledge here,

thought I'd

> pick

> ya'll brains.

>

> Thanks-

> Robin

[Guest guest]

Panther Piss is just apple cider vinager and

blackstrap mollases mixed together.

One cup of each and it will keep for a month on the

kitchen counter it works great for sinus headaches but

I just walk over to the jar and take a mouthful and

put the lid back on I never mesure.

For migraines I herd that feverfew was the thing . You

have to take it everyday not when you feel one coming

on.

Pegg

Please over look my spellinhg

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hey Pegg,

And thank you too for covering for me.

As many of you know, I'm sometimes gone from the list for a few days (without warning), and it gives me great satisfaction that you, and others like you are pitching in there to help. It really does give me a warm fuzzy feeling ;o)

Much love,

Doc

PS. What's wrong with your spellink?

LOL

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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P.M.

herbal remedies

Friday, February 22, 2002 5:42 PM

Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Migraines

Panther Piss is just apple cider vinager andblackstrap mollases mixed together.One cup of each and it will keep for a month on thekitchen counter it works great for sinus headaches butI just walk over to the jar and take a mouthful andput the lid back on I never mesure.For migraines I herd that feverfew was the thing . Youhave to take it everyday not when you feel one comingon.PeggPlease over look my spellinhg

[Guest guest]

Welcome Cindy!

When I was little my mother used to get the major migraines- you know, the kind where the lights are off and no one makes a sound..... anyway an old professor told her to start taking garlic tablets.... I don't remember the mgs..but was probably fairly potent... but she took 12 a day for several months - 3/3/3/3 and then cut back to 8 then after about 6 months went to 4/4/4 - sometime after that we all began to realize "MOM was not having migraines..... She continues to take garlic everyday but just a couple each morning - she takes the garlic/parsley combo.... never had a migraine after that... So my suggestion to you is GARLIC... Garlic is also good for blood pressure.

Suzi

Cindy Lee wrote:

 

hi everyone,

I am new to this group and have had an interest in herbal remedies for years now, but still consider myself a novice.

I have also suffered for years with migraines and am wondering if there is any herbal treatments that can help prevent migraines? or help while during an attack?

I also suffer high blood pressure and am on blood pressure meds for that so I need to be careful with what will interact with that.

 

thanks for any help you can offer me.

 

cindy in independence, mo.

 

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

> Can anyone tell me what my friend can do for her migraines?

 

Headaches - including migraines - can have a variety of causes

(Roots) in . The first step is to determine what is

the Root of your friends' migraines.

 

Migraines by definition are one-sided headaches (or far worse on one

side than the other), but what part of the head hurts the most?

Does the headache start out with stiffness and pain in the back of

the head and neck? Is the pain worst in the side of the head, the

center of the head, or the forehead? What time of day does the

person tend to get headaches? Do any weather conditions tend to

trigger headaches? Does your friend tend to have more headaches when

it's hot or when it's cold? Is there a season of the year that your

friend tends to more health problems? A season when your friend

tends to have less? What color is your friend's tongue tissue?

 

I don't know which hemisphere your friend lives in, north or south.

In the northern hemisphere it is autumn, and temperatures are

falling. In the southern hemisphere it is spring, and temperatures

are rising. Where your friend lives and the prevailing weather

conditions can (in some cases) be a clue to the Root of the

headaches. I used to have migraines, and I tended to get more of

them in the fall than at any other time. Right as the weather was

turning colder. Spring also could be a rough time as temperatures

tend to rise in early spring, but there are some cold snaps and late

freezes. Rainy weather also tended to bring a headache on. The Root

in my case was Wind Cold in the Bladder and Small Intestine meridian.

 

Ask your friend to start noticing if prior to a migraine one of her

hands (or feet) get colder than the other one. The cold will be

particularly noticeable along the outer edge of the hand. If this is

happening, this points strongly to Wind Gold in the Bladder and

Small Intestine meridians.

 

Also ask her if she's bothered by cold but helped by warmth. It

would be best if she saw a TCM (Traditional )

herbalist or acupunturist in person, but this isn't always possible

as there may not be one near where she lives. So you proceed

cautiously. If cold (and wind) do seem to be a problem for her,

have her place a heating pad on the waist in back. There are two

acupoints on either side of the spine that you want to warm up. They

are on the Bladder meridian.

 

Next, place a heating pad over the outer edge of the hand on the

side the headache is on. You want to affect the Small Intestine

meridian. The particular point is on the outer edge of the knuckle

on the side closest to the wrist, not the little finger.

 

Some migraine sufferers who have an imbalance of Wind Cold in the

Bladder and Small Intestine meridians also will require a heating

pad over the shoulder blades. There are two points in this area

which are the points through which Wind Cold enters the body.

 

If this doesn't help or makes your friend worse, the headaches have

another Root. If the migraine has progressed to the point where the

person has nausea, more points will need to be worked.

 

There is some information on the web about acupressure. Check out

acupressure.com (not acupuncture). Click on the articles section,

and you'll see a couple of sample chapters from Michael Reed Gach's

book Acupressure's Potent Points. There are pictures and

descriptions of where some points are located.

 

Please remember that what I posted here only works if the migraine

is being caused by Wind Cold Invading the Exterior.

[Guest guest]

My husband had migraines that became more frequent over a couple of years.

They were the sort that made him vomit for several hours and the headache

lasted for 6 or so hours - usually he felt better the next day. He was

advised by the lady in our local health shop to take balanced essential

fatty acids, and he hasn't had a migraine since. So get supplements of

omega 3 and omega 6 fatty acids.

 

Good luck

 

Jo

 

> Can anyone tell me what my friend can do for her migraines?

>

> Thank you

>

> Sally

[Guest guest]

Experiment with avoidance of common dietary triggers: chocolate,

red wine, strong-flavored cheeses, fermented foods, sardines, anchovies,

pickled herring, and cured meats.

* Eliminate all sources of caffeine

 

 

I just had to say something here because I suffer from them and the only way to

get rid of one is to have caffeine. I have had them since I was 10 and this has

always been the way. Mine are hormonal and I get them around that time of the

month or when I am realy stressed. I always recomend going to see a doctor to

see what kind you have. There are so many out there and people do not relize it.

If you have others in your family who have them your more likely to have them

yourself. My mother, sister and grandparent's all had them but all have diffrent

kinds.

 

 

 

Blessed Be

Nikki

www.famtreas.net

[Guest guest]

I really wish caffine worked for me..unfortunately..it doesn't.

 

KarenMomCalzMeNikki <momcalzmenikki wrote:

Experiment with avoidance of common dietary triggers: chocolate,red wine, strong-flavored cheeses, fermented foods, sardines, anchovies,pickled herring, and cured meats. * Eliminate all sources of caffeineI just had to say something here because I suffer from them and the only way to get rid of one is to have caffeine. I have had them since I was 10 and this has always been the way. Mine are hormonal and I get them around that time of the month or when I am realy stressed. I always recomend going to see a doctor to see what kind you have. There are so many out there and people do not relize it. If you have others in your family who have them your more likely to have them yourself. My mother, sister and grandparent's all had them but all have diffrent kinds.Blessed

BeNikkiwww.famtreas.net

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[Guest guest]

Janice, this came from one of the lists I am on called Health Sciences Institute e-Alert

 

Dear Reader,

"I have discovered a cure that starts within 30 minutes for migraine headaches."

 

That compelling comment comes from an HSI member named Menken who has posted her migraine therapy on the HSI Healthier Talk forum titled "Headaches/Migraine." Menken writes: "I juice up a bunch of celery and take 2 oz of juice whenever I feel a migraine coming on. Then I lay down and within 30 minutes my migraine starts going away most of the time."

If the migraine doesn't go away, step two in Menken's regimen calls for another helping of celery juice, this time doubled to four ounces. The result? "I have never had to take a third dose."

Besides the fact that this natural treatment seems to work wonders for Menken, her comments also serve as a sobering reminder of just how debilitating migraines can be. In her posting she mentions details such as having three migraines in four days, flashes of light in her field of vision, and one migraine so intense that she couldn't lie down.

People who have migraines like Menken's know only too well how challenging the condition is. To make matters worse, a recent study has confirmed an association between migraine and elevated stroke risk. And researchers found this risk to be considerably higher if a migraine patient happens to be taking a widely used drug.

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Aura of risk

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An international research team headed up by Royal Victoria and Vancouver Hospitals in Canada conducted a review of 14 individual studies to investigate a possible link between migraine and an increased risk of ischemic stroke. This type of stroke is caused by blood clots that obstruct blood flow to the brain.

As reported in a recent issue of the British Medical Journal, researchers assessed three cohort studies and 11 case-controlled studies. An analysis of the combined results indicated that patients with migraines are more than twice as likely to have an ischemic stroke compared to people who don't get migraines. The risk is slightly higher for those who experience aura (such as Menken's flash of lights), and slightly lower for those who have migraine without aura.

More troubling was the finding that women with migraine who use oral contraceptives have a sharply increased risk of ischemic stroke. Their risk may be as much as eight times greater than women without migraine.

One of the researchers - Ali Samii, M.D. - told Reuters Health that the study clearly indicates that, "migraine may be an independent risk factor for stroke." Dr. Samii notes that the reduced blood flow to the brain that accompanies migraines probably plays a role in triggering strokes.

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Risk reduction

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In previous e-Alerts I've told you about natural agents that have been shown to reduce the frequency of severe migraines. In "The Best Offense" (9/29/04), German researchers demonstrated that a 400 mg daily dose of riboflavin (vitamin B-2) may cut migraine frequency in half. And in "Power to the Powerhouses" (6/28/04), coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10) was also shown to halve the frequency of migraines by promoting respiration in the powerhouses of the cell: the mitochondria.

Reduction of migraine frequency may not play a role in reducing ischemic stroke risk, but it certainly couldn't hurt. And migraine patients might also get additional stroke protection by increasing their intake of folate and vitamin C.

In the e-Alert "May Isn't Only for Mothers" (5/15/02), I told you about a Tulane University study that showed how 300 mcg of folate per day may reduce stroke risk by as much as 20 percent. And in "The Critical Second Cup" (7/1/02), Finland researchers concluded that people who have the highest intake of vitamin C are much less likely to experience a stroke compared to those who have low C intakes.

All of these e-Alerts can be found by searching the e-Alert archives on our web site at hsibaltimore.com.

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Reading the signs

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As I've mentioned in those previous e-Alerts, it's absolutely essential to quickly get medical attention at the first warning signs of a stroke. Quick action can reduce the long-term effects of the stroke and may even save the victim's life.

In addition to migraines, other health issues that increase stroke risk include heart attack (especially if you're 75 or older), hypertension, diabetes, or peripheral vascular disease.

A stroke can sometimes be forming for several days before the first symptoms occur, so if you or a loved one is in a high-risk group, learn these warning signs of stroke and be prepared to act immediately if any of them appear:

Weakness or numbness of face, arm or leg, especially on one side of the body Confusion, trouble speaking or understanding Trouble seeing out of one or both eyes Trouble walking, dizziness, loss of balance or coordination Severe headache with no known cause If you notice any of these signs, call for help immediately. Some stroke procedures can only be performed within the first hours after a stroke. In the event of a transient ischemic attack (TIA), or "mini stroke," the symptoms will pass quickly. But more than one-third of those who suffer a TIA will later have an ischemic stroke.

To start receiving your own copy of the HSI e-Alert, visit: http://www.hsiealert.com/freecopy.html Or forward this e-mail to a friend so they can sign-up to receive their own copy of the HSI e-Alert.

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"Janice Ashby" <oneplanet4life

"Health Healing"

Monday, July 04, 2005 12:18 AM

Migraines

> Any advice on atypical migraines? It's where the left> side of my body feels like I have the flu, or just> spinning and nausaus.> > Environmental Doctor Dr. Zazula in Mississauga plays> dumb about this even, but I fail to see why I should> be paying loads of money for testing for them to learn> about something, when they know what a cold is and> don't have to test for that!!> > Janice.

[Guest guest]

Hi, I just joined this group. I was just wondering if anyone has had

any luck using acupuncture for migraines? I've been suffering from

Migraines all my life and been through tons of meds. I have been

wanting to try acupuncture for a long time. Actually I have my first

appointment this afternoon. Just wondering if anyone had some success

stories?

 

thanks

Kelly

[Guest guest]

At 01:36 PM 5/25/2008, you wrote:

>There's nothing really that can be done for clusters. They put me on

>Topomax which worked for a day or so, which the doctor will probably

>up the dossage. I can't walk around with an icepack on my head all

>day. I've learned to deal with the pain for the most part. They say

>it can last a few months to ???

 

I have a former sister in law who suffered (and I do use the word

advisedly) from cluster headaches...totally debilitating.

 

The book does have a section on cluster headaches...I have no idea what it

says... and it's at the office so I can't check.

 

If there is a minute (and if I remember!) I'll look it up on Tuesday.

 

 

 

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