Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Hi group Does anyone know how much water is too much? They say that 75 -80 percent of our muscles are made of water. I recieved my copy of " touch for health " by the late John Thie and he mentions in the chapter on nutrition that a healthy person ( by healthy, i'm assuming a person that has all of their meridians filled with energy and running in the right direction) can safely drink up to 5 gallons a day. I also rememeber reading somewhere that drinking too much water can wash out necessary salts from the body and also cause kidney damage, not too mention the fact that you'de be running to the bathroom every twenty minutes. Is John Thie correct with the five gallon recommendation? Amir Campbell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 I think a number of things come into play here. Things like the bodies salt balance do come into play here, since it is water soluble. Salt is there to balance the water level in the body, as is potassium and a few other things. Severe sodium depletion can actually make you sick, even cause death if not taken care of. There are considerations of balance. 5 gallons does seem a bit much to drink, at least for extended periods of time as a normal diet. Drinking that much water will cut down on food intake dramatically, which is why I am going to ask about the CONTEXT of what John Thie was referring to. Was this in reference to some sort of a fast, or detoxing the body? In a case like that I can sort of understand the reasoning for it. As a normal part of ones diet, I will disagree. I have not read that book yet, nor do I have it, but I do have Dr, Batmangheldj's " Your Bodies Many Cries for Water " . According to his book, the average person should drink about 1/2 gallon everyday. A more specific formula would be take your estimated body weight in pounds, divided that number in half and re-label that figure into ounces. That is a closer approximation to drink each day. For example, a person who weighs 180 pounds. Half of that is 90, re-labeled ounces is 90 ounces. Drink 90 ounces. There are of course, considerations on diet, exercise, evaporation rate (water does evaporate from your body) caused by environmental temperatures, how much you sweat, etc. Those variables and more will cause the proper amount to fluctuate according to each individuals needs. All in all, I would say the easiest and best solution is to energy test what is right for you. Gary puck72003 wrote: >Hi group > >Does anyone know how much water is too much? They say that 75 -80 >percent of our muscles are made of water. I recieved my copy of " touch >for health " by the late John Thie and he mentions in the chapter on >nutrition that a healthy person ( by healthy, i'm assuming a person >that has all of their meridians filled with energy and running in the >right direction) can safely drink up to 5 gallons a day. > >I also rememeber reading somewhere that drinking too much water can >wash out necessary salts from the body and also cause kidney damage, >not too mention the fact that you'de be running to the bathroom every >twenty minutes. > >Is John Thie correct with the five gallon recommendation? > >Amir Campbell > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 I think 5 gallons is a lot. It would depend of where you are and what you do and your health Humidity, temperature, exercise, etc. But the concern about throwing off electrolytes is real. I have seen people in the hospital who have had serious symptoms from both too much and too little water. Even death. I think the old 8 12-oz glasses a day minimum is a good guideline. Once when I had a thyroid/ADH problem and was stayiing dehydrated from it, I drank several gallons a day trying to keep my eletrolytes in balance. Our bottled water came in 5 gal jugs, and we used 7 of them every 3 weeks. The delivery person asked how many of us there were (2) as that was a LOT of water. Of course, that was not all we drank as we were not always at home. Older people often don't experience thirst as they should so they must "remember" to drink an adequate amount. Why don't you ask your body how much it needs? Sue "Strength does not come from physical capacity. It comes from an indomitable will." -- Mahatma Gandhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Amir, What I hear repeatedly regarding dosing the body with the appropriate amount of water is this formula: Take your body weight and divide it into half, for example, a 150 lb. person would be 150/2 = 75, and that's how many oz they would consume daily. 5 gallons a day? Whoa, that makes me float away just thinking about it. Another good source of hydrating yourself: www.watercure2.com Happy sailing? Meli , "puck72003" <puck72003 wrote:>> Hi group > > Does anyone know how much water is too much? They say that 75 -80> percent of our muscles are made of water. I recieved my copy of "touch> for health" by the late John Thie and he mentions in the chapter on> nutrition that a healthy person ( by healthy, i'm assuming a person> that has all of their meridians filled with energy and running in the> right direction) can safely drink up to 5 gallons a day.> > I also rememeber reading somewhere that drinking too much water can> wash out necessary salts from the body and also cause kidney damage,> not too mention the fact that you'de be running to the bathroom every> twenty minutes.> > Is John Thie correct with the five gallon recommendation?> > Amir Campbell> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Hi Amir. Sue and Gary are right, there are a lot of factors that determine how much water you should drink like climate etc. etc. Studying kidneys at the moment there are a few things I wanted to add. Starting with the remark that the question > Does anyone know how much water is too much? sounds kind of funny. Why are you more interested in how much water is too much than how much water is optimum for your health? >that a healthy person can safely drink up to 5 gallons a day. If he could, why would he want to? Why shouldn't he concentrate on how much is enough/good for his body? I just looked up how much a gallon is and I was REALLY surprised that a person can even think about drinking 5 gallons a day. Did you ever drink more than 1 gallon a day? Then try imagining how much work and effort 5 would be. My mind refuses to even imagine that as the question keeps coming up... WHY would I wanna do that??? > I also rememeber reading somewhere that drinking too much water can > wash out necessary salts from the body and also cause kidney damage When the hormone ADH is not produced at all or not recognized by the receptors in the kidney [called Diabetes Insipidus](which means no water is re-collected at the end of the whole process in the kidneys) people urinate about 6 gallons a day. So I think it MIGHT be possible that the healthy body just doesn't secrete ADH (as he has too much and doesn't want to recollect water) so that no other mechanisms are affected and you have basically the same result. So MAYBE a healthy person would be able to drink that amount without any problems arising from that IF he drank it evenly distributed among the whole day and IF he watched the amount of natrium he takes in as the combination of not enough natrium and too much water leads to water-intoxiation which is not as seldom as it sounds strange. I think with paying attention to your natural feeling of thirst and common sense you get just the right amount of water your body needs (which I suppose is somewhere around 1/2 gallon although there were special times when I drank more than 1.5 gallon for a few days - when my body told me to). This presupposes you haven't trained yourself not to listen to your body AT ALL. The statement that the feeling of thirst comes when the body is already dehydrated is exagerated (makes sense when you think about it: For example hunger also doesn't come when you're almost to weak to walk). Just in case someone is interested here are some values (in litres) that relate to the concentration of natrium: ~285 mosmol/l -> Body secrets ADH -> Preventing more water to get out ~294 mosmol/l -> Thirst -> Trying to get more water in ~302 mosmol/l -> Dehydration Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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