Psychic Protection against Dark Minds

[Guest guest]

--- darthon4 <darthon4 wrote:

> I found out on Saturday afternoon that there was a

> very " dark-minded " person present at the Huna

> Conference. He wasn't an attendee, but a

> by-stander.

>

> We noticed that he never went into the rooms where

> the Huna conference was going on, but that he hung

> out in the lobby all the time.

>

> Vince told me it was because there was a Mana Shield

> (I think that's what he called it) protecting the

> inside of the rooms where the conference was going

> on.

 

A lot of people were doing different things.

 

Basically, shady characters can't stand the light.

 

When I saw who it was I just laughed.

 

Then I went back into the conference room and brought

the TMHG altar to the center.

 

As soon as I did that, he got in his van and left.

 

Splat.

 

--Vince

 

http://tmhg.huna-ohana.com

 

Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD

[Guest guest]

Thanks Vince. You did good!

 

Lori

 

 

, " Rev. James

Vinson Wingo, DD " <kahunaviking> wrote:

> --- darthon4 <darthon4> wrote:

> > I found out on Saturday afternoon that there was a

> > very " dark-minded " person present at the Huna

> > Conference. He wasn't an attendee, but a

> > by-stander.

> >

> > We noticed that he never went into the rooms where

> > the Huna conference was going on, but that he hung

> > out in the lobby all the time.

> >

> > Vince told me it was because there was a Mana Shield

> > (I think that's what he called it) protecting the

> > inside of the rooms where the conference was going

> > on.

>

> A lot of people were doing different things.

>

> Basically, shady characters can't stand the light.

>

> When I saw who it was I just laughed.

>

> Then I went back into the conference room and brought

> the TMHG altar to the center.

>

> As soon as I did that, he got in his van and left.

>

> Splat.

>

> --Vince

>

> http://tmhg.huna-ohana.com

>

> Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD

[Guest guest]

> Basically, shady characters can't stand the light.

> --Vince

 

 

This is something I've been wondering about, having had trouble with a shady guy

or two

in my time. (I'm generally pretty up-beat & easy-going & attract them like

flies).

 

Seems, in a group, the shady characters seem to be able to exert a lot more

influence. In

most groups, there's one more positive or dynamic individual who provides

motiviating

force, and often one jealous type who begins to find reasons to undermine the

motivator.

the rest of the folks tend to be more neutral. Invariably, the motivator

creates cohesion &

purpose in the group, and often a real feeling of comradery. It's at that point

the the shady

guy starts to shake things loose. Indeed, the shady guy seems to need cohesion,

purpose

& comradery to plant his toxic seeds. Since the shady guy is attacking the

structure &

energy of the group, the more effective the structure & energy is, the more

effectively it

can be undermined. It seems that once the process starts there's no stopping it.

 

I've seen this happen to others, and also been the motivator underattack. It

just seems

that most people have an affinity for dirt & discord.

How would you handle a shady guy who's not out in the open, but working behind

the

scenes or through other people?

 

Thanks,

Jeff

[Guest guest]

, " stuydaze "

<stuydaze> wrote:

> This is something I've been wondering about, having had trouble

with a shady guy or two

> in my time. (I'm generally pretty up-beat & easy-going & attract

them like flies).

 

Well, I suggest you FIRST DEFINE your terms.

 

You are talking about something totally different than Lori was

talking about.

 

Because Lori was talking about 1 person, a person that was weak

willed and a coward.

 

That type of person will not have many friends...

 

That type of person will NOT have the courage to go after his

convictions, unless he can do " it " in a closed closet with the

lights turned off.

 

 

[Guest guest]

--- stuydaze <stuydaze wrote:

 

> > Basically, shady characters can't stand the light.

> > --Vince

>

> This is something I've been wondering about, having

> had trouble with a shady guy or two in my time.

> (I'm generally pretty up-beat & easy-going & attract

 

> them like flies).

>

> Seems, in a group, the shady characters seem to be

> able to exert a lot more influence. In most groups,

> there's one more positive or dynamic individual who

> provides motivating force, and often one jealous

> type who begins to find reasons to undermine the

> motivator. the rest of the folks tend to be more

> neutral. Invariably, the motivator creates cohesion

> & purpose in the group, and often a real feeling of

> camaraderie. It's at that point the the shady guy

> starts to shake things loose. Indeed, the shady

> guy seems to need cohesion, purpose & camaraderie to

 

> plant his toxic seeds. Since the shady guy is

> attacking the structure & energy of the group, the

> more effective the structure & energy is, the more

> effectively it can be undermined. It seems that once

 

> the process starts there's no stopping it.

>

> I've seen this happen to others, and also been the

> motivator under attack. It just seems that most

> people have an affinity for dirt & discord.

> How would you handle a shady guy who's not out in

> the open, but working behind the scenes or through

> other people?

>

> Thanks,

> Jeff

 

It can be stopped, and it takes a lot of work by a lot

of good people.

 

Your story reminds me of what happened to HRI a couple

of years ago.

 

Go back and read the post Lori (I think) and I did on

the mosquito ... it is an isomorphic metaphor for when

the shadiest dirt-lovers started attacking Huna

Research about four years ago.

 

And, as Doc says, we did kill off all the black widow

spiders.

 

In fact, I got a call last night from Dad reporting

the last " black-widow-spider-for-hire " went SPLAT

yesterday.

 

Reminds me of when Clemenza was coaching Michael on

how to take out The Turk and The Cop ... and how it

would start a War with The Five Families.

 

He said, " These things happen every ten years or so

.... it gets rid of the bad blood. "

 

And the Michael went and got rid of the two guys who

tried to kill his father.

 

And they went ... SPLAT.

 

 

--Vince

 

Kahuna Maui

http://huna-ohana.com

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

> Well, I suggest you FIRST DEFINE your terms.

>

> You are talking about something totally different than Lori was

> talking about.

>

> Because Lori was talking about 1 person, a person that was weak

> willed and a coward.

>

> That type of person will not have many friends...

>

> That type of person will NOT have the courage to go after his

> convictions, unless he can do " it " in a closed closet with the

> lights turned off.

>

>

 

 

I was posing a sort of hypothetical extension of the situation.

 

The shady characters I've dealt with have been withdrawn & cowardly, but not

always weak

willed. They're secretive & bitter & incapable of maintaining friendships for

very long, and

seem to have innner demons of some sort. What's maddening is that the ones I've

experienced seem to have a weird sort of influence. I find myself usually

cutting them

slack for innapropriate behaviour, because I feel sorry for them, but other

people find

them positively charismatic.

 

In any case, they seem to have a need to undermine the accomplishments of others

in

order to validate themselves, and they're attracted to open & welcoming

situations, but

they seem to need to break them up, to assert their own individuality, I

suppose. The one's

I've dealt with have an uncanny ability to polarize others to act for them. they

stay in the

closet, but they entice others into coming in with them.

 

So for your slimy spider, he probably needed to try to undermine the convention

just to

feel good about himself, that he'd accomplished something. I'd guess that

somewhere,

he's got a couple of sycophants who will greet his return from the convention as

if he were

a conquring hero. and they may not be bad people, they just believe that he has

powerful

wisdom to impart. And their energy will help him recover, & plan his next

annoyance.

 

In my experience these crumbs NEVER confront head on, except, occasionally, a

quick hit

& run (back to their closet). They try to influence from the outside, and use

others as tools.

 

So i guess my question is, if your Huna hounder had tried to undermine the fun,

not by

direct action of his own, but by joining the convention, winning over some of

the

attendees and getting them to act for him, how would you detect and handle that?

 

 

(Hope I've clarified & defined)

 

Cheers,

Jeff

[Guest guest]

OK, so WHO gets to " decide " what is " light " and what is " dark " ???

 

I'm a decent, moral person, and loyal as a dog. Some people would

consider me " dark " . I'm no Jesus, and they accused him of being in

cahoots with the Devil.

 

C.W. Leadbeater talked about morality and then did what MOST people

would consider " evil " .

 

SO WHO GETS TO DECIDE what is " good " or " evil " or " light " or " dark " ?

 

One S.O.B. who works where I work saw the ad copy for my book and

hasn't even read the book and tried to tell me I'm doing " black

magic " , based on the ad copy. It's a book on ANCHORING, for God's

sake... (Same S.O.B. wants me to teach him anchoring, even though

I've GIVEN him resources for that, but he won't pay $19 bucks for the

friggin' book... Wants it for " free " . And he puts curses on everyone

who even slightly annoys him, but I'm supposedly teaching " Black

Magic " .

 

SO WHO SAYS what's " light " and " dark " ????

 

You know that was the " original sin, " ? People trying to decide what

was good and evil.

 

So WHO is the AUTHORITY on what is " good " and " evil " ????

 

Jim

[Guest guest]

--- " James R. Knippenberg " <erommel

wrote:

> OK, so WHO gets to " decide " what is " light " and what

> is " dark " ???

 

I do.

 

> SO WHO GETS TO DECIDE what is " good " or " evil " or

> " light " or " dark " ?

 

I do.

 

> SO WHO SAYS what's " light " and " dark " ????

 

I say.

 

> So WHO is the AUTHORITY on what is " good " and

> " evil " ????

 

I am.

 

 

--Vince

 

PS - So what's this post about?

 

Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD

 

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http://buy-vince-a-beer.com/

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

, " Rev. James

Vinson Wingo, DD " <kahunaviking> wrote:

> --- " James R. Knippenberg " <erommel@e...>

> wrote:

> > OK, so WHO gets to " decide " what is " light " and what

> > is " dark " ???

>

> I do.

 

No you don't.

 

I do.

 

> > SO WHO GETS TO DECIDE what is " good " or " evil " or

> > " light " or " dark " ?

>

> I do.

 

No you don't.

 

I do.

 

> > SO WHO SAYS what's " light " and " dark " ????

>

> I say.

 

No you don't.

 

I say.

 

> > So WHO is the AUTHORITY on what is " good " and

> > " evil " ????

>

> I am.

 

No you aren't.

 

I am.

 

<I;-)>

 

So, what's this post about?

 

 

 

>

>

> --Vince

>

> PS - So what's this post about?

>

> Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD

>

> Buy Me an eBeer!

> http://buy-vince-a-beer.com/

>

>

>

> __

> Start your day with - make it your home page

> http://www./r/hs

[Guest guest]

--- docspeed2001 <docspeed2001 wrote:

 

> --- In

> ,

> " Rev. James

> Vinson Wingo, DD " <kahunaviking> wrote:

> > --- " James R. Knippenberg " <erommel@e...>

> > wrote:

> > > OK, so WHO gets to " decide " what is " light " and

> what

> > > is " dark " ???

> >

> > I do.

>

> No you don't.

>

> I do.

>

> > > SO WHO GETS TO DECIDE what is " good " or " evil "

> or

> > > " light " or " dark " ?

> >

> > I do.

>

> No you don't.

>

> I do.

>

> > > SO WHO SAYS what's " light " and " dark " ????

> >

> > I say.

>

> No you don't.

>

> I say.

>

> > > So WHO is the AUTHORITY on what is " good " and

> > > " evil " ????

> >

> > I am.

>

> No you aren't.

>

> I am.

>

> <I;-)>

>

> So, what's this post about?

>

>

 

You're both right.

 

Linda

 

---> http://www.geocities.com/plopnin

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

It about how it all comes down to " MY RULES " !

 

Lori

 

, " Rev. James

Vinson Wingo, DD " <kahunaviking> wrote:

> --- " James R. Knippenberg " <erommel@e...>

> wrote:

> > OK, so WHO gets to " decide " what is " light " and what

> > is " dark " ???

>

> I do.

>

> > SO WHO GETS TO DECIDE what is " good " or " evil " or

> > " light " or " dark " ?

>

> I do.

>

> > SO WHO SAYS what's " light " and " dark " ????

>

> I say.

>

> > So WHO is the AUTHORITY on what is " good " and

> > " evil " ????

>

> I am.

>

>

>

> --Vince

>

> PS - So what's this post about?

>

> Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD

>

> Buy Me an eBeer!

> http://buy-vince-a-beer.com/

>

>

>

> __

> Start your day with - make it your home page

> http://www./r/hs

[Guest guest]

What were those last two posts about? Hmm, evil, evil people who for

some strange reason believe there is some sort of 'law'' that

'allows' them to do what they choose... when, where, how, etc. Don't

they realize that there is a 'structure' of 'rules'? You can't just go

around doing things because YOU want to... how would 'shit' ever 'get

done' doing that? It's not their fault though, the government is

'responsible for' their thoughts and their feelings. And the church

must be 'responsible to' what they say and what they do. Maybe I oughta

write to '4' congressmen or something about this obvious misuse of

'powers' and choices. Maybe they are the 'destroyer' of that eeevil

'demon' lurking in the 'inner' depths... because there is no way

anybody can ever bear the vast burden of

responsibility of taking care their own shit... the only 'skills' I

need

are to follow the 'drills' the government and the church and my parents

and all those other people who must know better taught me and told me

to stop asking questions and just do what they said because they said

to.

 

Gary Graves

BTW... they are both wrong... cause I have my own rules... Uncle Sam

told me so!

 

docspeed2001 wrote:

 

, "Rev. James

Vinson Wingo, DD" <kahunaviking> wrote:

> --- "James R. Knippenberg" <erommel@e...>

> wrote:

> > OK, so WHO gets to "decide" what is "light" and what

> > is "dark"???

>

> I do.

 

No you don't.

 

I do.

 

> > SO WHO GETS TO DECIDE what is "good" or "evil" or

> > "light" or "dark"?

>

> I do.

 

No you don't.

 

I do.

> > SO WHO SAYS what's "light" and "dark"????

>

> I say.

 

No you don't.

 

I say.

> > So WHO is the AUTHORITY on what is "good" and

> > "evil"????

>

> I am.

 

No you aren't.

 

I am.

 

<I;-)>

 

So, what's this post about?

 

 

>

>

> --Vince

>

> PS - So what's this post about?

>

> Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD

>

> Buy Me an eBeer!

> http://buy-vince-a-beer.com/

>

>

>

> __

> Start your day with - make it your home page

> http://www./r/hs

[Guest guest]

" MY RULES "

 

Lori

 

healingenergies-

essentialskills , " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001>

wrote:

> , " Rev. James

> Vinson Wingo, DD " <kahunaviking> wrote:

> > --- " James R. Knippenberg " <erommel@e...>

> > wrote:

> > > OK, so WHO gets to " decide " what is " light " and what

> > > is " dark " ???

> >

> > I do.

>

> No you don't.

>

> I do.

>

> > > SO WHO GETS TO DECIDE what is " good " or " evil " or

> > > " light " or " dark " ?

> >

> > I do.

>

> No you don't.

>

> I do.

>

> > > SO WHO SAYS what's " light " and " dark " ????

> >

> > I say.

>

> No you don't.

>

> I say.

>

> > > So WHO is the AUTHORITY on what is " good " and

> > > " evil " ????

> >

> > I am.

>

> No you aren't.

>

> I am.

>

> <I;-)>

>

> So, what's this post about?

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > --Vince

> >

> > PS - So what's this post about?

> >

> > Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD

> >

> > Buy Me an eBeer!

> > http://buy-vince-a-beer.com/

> >

> >

> >

> > __

> > Start your day with - make it your home page

> > http://www./r/hs