The use of energy psychology for distant healing

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>In the book the EFT Coach, Mary L.R. Jones discusses the topic of surrogate

tapping

>and I would be interested to know if you agree with what she has written or

have

>another view point, I think you will find the subject interesting if you are

someone who >uses surrogate tapping as part of your process.

 

Hi Gary,

 

I've not read her book yet so I'll go by your comments about what Mary said.

 

>Mary says that she believes that surrogate tapping or proxy tapping should not

be used

>on the client in a couching situation

 

Did you mean `coaching' and not `couching'?

 

" Couching " means to have them lay down.

 

" Coaching " means you are assisting them and acting as a trainer. I'll assume we

are coaching them.

 

>…and that it is inappropriate along with worrying about your client between

sessions

>that can also be ill advised.

 

Did Mary say the `becauses' about worrying?

 

Worrying is focusing on `what can go wrong', `what has gone wrong' and `what is

now wrong'.

 

Those are all forms of negative thinking that does depress the immune system on

a subconscious-level, normally way below the thresh-hold of their conscious

mind.

 

It's been pretty well validated scientifically that what you think about another

does affect them (and yourself) on an emotional level, even at a distance.

 

According to Larry Dossey that is a nonlocal result in Medical Era III.

 

And presupposing from that I now assume that Mary does her EFT from Medical Era

I, and Medical Era II, and NOT from Medical Era III.

 

So I would take the `worry' out of the `tapping equation' and use something like

the Pat Carrington `choices' method.

 

>Further to this Mary says that if you feel the need to be tapping on your

client's behalf >then you may have a self management issue that you need to deal

with.

 

From the `tone' of what you've stated Mary says, I think it is a personality

trait issue and not a right or wrong issue.

 

People look at the world very differently.

 

Earth elements wish to mother everyone and actually `over-mother' many clients

because of that personality trait.

 

Wood elements want those people to learn the skills so they can take care of

themselves.

 

What I would suggest is that the personality needs to match the clients

unconscious perceptive.

 

I would also assume that Mary is negating the natural ESP skills of intuition

and of empathy.

 

>For instance, " even though I feel responsible for the client " .

 

Well, first, one should NEVER feel responsible for the client.

 

You are then going way past ethical considerations of coaching and the teaching

of self-responsibility.

 

Here I do get into the L. Michael Hall rules of The Four Powers.

 

1. You are responsible to yourself for what you think.

2. You are responsible to yourself for how you feel.

3. You are responsible to others for what you say.

4. You are responsible to others for what you do.

 

Now those four Powers are only for Medical Era I and II.

 

For Medical Era II they would be re-adjusted to:

 

1. You are responsible to yourself for what you think. Because what and how you

think does affect your mood, your attitude, your internal energies and your

physical body.

 

How your internal energies are do affect those around you on a

subconscious level.

 

2. You are responsible to yourself for how you feel. In EFT `feeling' is caused

by a relationship between a thought and the perturbance in the energy field. So

a negative thought causes an energy faltering of one type or another and you end

up with a bad feeling.

 

3. You are responsible to others for what you say. This is still valid, and

there is more to it. What you think with emotion content does affect them and

their physical bodies on a subconscious level. So if you think negative thoughts

about them, they may feel depressed but not know that the depression is coming

from outside of them.

 

 

4. You are responsible to others for what you do. For example if you feel your

energies are not on par, you need to fix your energies before you interact with

others. In person, in direct contact with others, your physical energies are

much more powerful than at a distant location. So if your energies are scrambled

you need to do the Wayne Cook before getting with the client. If your energies

are homolateral you need to tap K-27's and do some Cross Crawling before you get

with a client.

 

>Even if you feel a strong desire to proxy tap your client and even if your

client asks

>you to do so it is ill advised to do so without their knowledge and violates

the

>principle of permission.

 

The entire paragraph does seem to ignore that science has now decided through

its research that we are all inter-connected on one inner level or another. So

we are communicating with others when we think about them. They are connected

with us when they think about us. That does seem to negate the above importance

of permission.

 

I would suggest that if you live by the Four Medical Era III Powers and you

believe that what you think does influence another, even at a distance, that

you'd think about them with the positive emotions rather than the negative

emotions.

 

That does not mean to deny the existence of their problem (called a " project " in

Silva Mind Control) but to elicit pleasant memories of them.

 

>To do so with their knowledge is to set up an emotional dependence on you which

is >totally counter to the object of coaching…

 

Well, yes and no.

 

They are coming to your for coaching, so coach them in the best way you know

how.

 

Be sure and do `informed consent' with them first so that if there are any

incongruencies between what you will be doing and what they want done, those can

be cleared up and agreed upon first.

 

Then again, there is that really neat thing called a placebo.

 

I've had people ask me for help remotely.

 

I've been out of town and not received their call or their email.

 

They didn't know it and got well anyhow, swearing it was me helping them in a

dream.

 

Which non-locality, it might or might not have been.

 

But it worked.

 

>which is to help clients develop their own resourcefulness and power over their

own

>lives.

 

I agree with this sentence very strongly. It's the " how-to's " that I have other

ways of doing.

 

>If you still feel strongly drawn to providing a proxy tapping service then you

need to >rethink the label you choose for your service.

 

Now I am in a bind here. I abhor those who profess to scare away the globins so

that the victim (I mean client) can now have a happy love life, make millions of

dollars, or lose ninety-seven pounds. To me they reek of gypsy fortune tellers

that are scamming scared people out of money. They are frauds living off the

'easy marks'.

 

So if its that type of fortune telling gypsies that are now using tapping for

their scams, I am against that.

 

But if you are a highly trained Energy Psychology person that is deep into the

practice of Medical Era III healing technologies, and you have a verification

process of " what you are doing works " , I am all for it.

 

What it seems is that it is NOT the way that Mary thinks about EFT and does EFT.

 

Again, to me it seems that Mary is in Level I and Level II, which is still

great.

 

>There are many people providing remote healing of various kinds and EFT could

be

>one of them but this is not coaching.

 

Actually Gary Craig had given seminars on Distance Influence using EFT, so in my

definition of EFT the remote influence concepts are a part of it.

 

I know that many out there do teach good methods of remote influence and do know

how to bridge the conscious mind with the unconscious mind in such a way to

potentialize their efforts. One of those ways is the tapping used in Energy

Psychology.

 

>This is not to say that you will not benefit by tapping yourself and gain

benefits

>from it.

 

I found it interesting that Mary used a subconscious negation in the above

sentence. Now I'm curious to if she used it consciously to INSTALL an away-from

in the reader's subconscious mind, or if that is how she subconsciously `thinks'

about the process?

 

Nothing like a double negative to send people's subconscious minds into a

convoluted confused mess, called `scrambled' energies.

 

Put simply, " You will gain benefits by tapping yourself " .

 

>Please understand that surrogate or proxy tapping will not cause harm to their

client

>in terms of their emotional on physical wellbeing.

 

Again, the use of the negative deletion process, so the above sentence reads to

the subconscious mind as " Surrogate or proxy tapping will cause harm to their

client's emotional and physical wellbeing " .

 

To NOT install those negative presuppositions something like this might be said;

" Surrogate and proxy tapping may or may not be of benefit to their client's

emotional and physical wellbeing " .

 

>The harm is to the fundamental of principle that the object is to help the

client

>become a resourceful and empowered person.

 

Not really.

 

It's NOT a this or that, but many different variables can send the direction of

self-responsibility into different channels of learning.

 

Anyway Gary, this has been fun.

 

Sincerely,

John La Tourrette, PhD