Guest guest Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 --- , " James R. Knippenberg " <erommel@e...> wrote: > Doc, That's an awesome post! > I got a question or two. Leadbeater seemed to believe (at least >the way I read him) that it was more important to get help from the >MENTAL plane than from the Astral, I also like Jack Schwartz, and his comment is, " you do it all yourself, or it ain't worth doing " . Sshwartz in his own way was as good as C.W. Leadbeater... >and also seemed to be more important to do work on the Mental Plane >instead of the astral. I agree with Leadbeater here. It is also the same with NLP, hypnosis, doing the Ha Manifestation rite properly, and Mind Control. Your thoughts are things, and how you do those thoughts can either make those thoughts weak and insipid, or can cause them to be very powerful. We've covered exact procedures in the archives. What they are. Where they came from. What's important about doing those drills, if you do those drills. How to do those drills, and what else can be done with those drills, blab, blab, blab... >But the cases of people in danger who are helped from the fire or >from drowning by a physical hand or entire body that helps them, >that seems to be from the astral where the astral temporarily takes >on a physical form? Well, I " used to think " that was all horseshit...then I started noticing things... ....I started noticing children and dogs seeing " things " I could not yet see... ....and then I started seeing " things " that I didn't use to believe in. Experience is the greatest teacher of all. And I've met a few wonderful people that " see " even better than I do, and have confirmed for me some of what I " see " . Amazing way of causing your reality tunnels to collasp! Now I actually " believe " that we came down to this planet in this form, with these parents and situations with some specific tasks to perform... ....and, like a dictionary that is used when you mis-spell a word, we have resources on the next plane that we can also access with consciousness if and when we want to. Curosity is NOT a good motivator. " Getting shit done that is necessary is a good motivator " ... ....which is why " DREAM CONTROL " is being taught at my NEXT Intensive, and it is being taught in the complete process and NOT the watered down way that some teach it. The first time I did TIME DISTORTION I did it ACCIDENTLY and it did save my life. The next time I did TIME DISTORTION I did it ACCIDENTLY and it saved my right leg from being ripped off my body in a " core " press used in a plywood plant. I used to think that I tuned in to TIME DISTORTION because of all the martial arts workouts, boxing, shi ais, randori and sparring that I've been doing since the 50's... Now I believe it IS THAT and it is SOMETHING EXTRA, something that has carried on from before... >An example would be the protection from a mother's intense love and >desire to protect. You mean a dead mother? Or do you mean a live mother? Or do you mean both? In remote influencing, one of the skills we teach is to remotely give the person a message in a personality or voice that he will find significant! I think that sometimes we " get messages " from our " helpers " or " guides " (as Donna Eden calls them) who cloak those messages in a way that we will accept and NOT reject. > So why is it important to train on the Astral instead of the >Mental? It isn't. But for those untrained in the Mind Sciences, they go where their last thought before sleeping carries them. Fear is on the astral plane. Worry is on the astral plane. Lust is on the astral plane. So if your dream time is full of the lower emotions, then you will be visiting the lower astral with your sleeping consciousness... ....and if you've NOT trained the bridges between the 4 stages of consciousness, then you will NOT remember those dreams but you will have those feelings, but just not know where they are coming from. But, if when you go to bed you fixate upon a project that you want a solution to, then you are using the mental realm. You have an airplane ticket to where you actually want to visit. So, how can you use these above concepts in your own life to learn healing energies really well? So, how can you use these above concepts in your own life to learn remote viewing really well? ....remote influencing really well? ....making money really well? ....blab, blab, blab really well? There's much more than this, but this is enough for now. The Lost Secrets of Dream Invasion the Kahuna Way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Hello DOc, <SNIP> > Experience is the greatest teacher of all. Does it have to be your own? I have heard that experience is the best teacher ....I have also that the EXPERIENCE does not have to be YOUR experience. ....I guess what they meant is that someone else pays the price of making mistakes. ....you reap the benefits of their experience. ....then just assimilate the knowledge ....and put it into practice I think I just ansered my own question. When you say experience is the best teacher....my read is that ....as I learn stuff from EM ....as I learn stuff from HUNA ....as I learn stuff from NLP ....as I learn stuff from NS then... ....as I do the drill ....as I experience what works ....as I experience what does not work ....as I experience how to make things better ....then experince becomes the best teacher. Then experience teaches me ....this is how to get minimal results ....this is how to get the best results ....this is how to get the best results in the shortest time What I PERSONALLY experience... ....as opposed to second hand experience ....as opposed to " I heard from a friend of a friend of mine... That's how EXPERIENCE is the best teacher? Am I close? Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.