Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 > you'd stay away from them. > > Let's talk about " focus " . A year or so back, I created something for > one of my students out of Mexico City. We called her NORMA! And I > taught him how to use his NORMA thought-form in wonderous ways for > enjoyment for BOTH of them. So I elicited what he liked about NORMA. > Would by believe it was all neat sexual stuff? Well anyway, there > were 35 others in the class room that also used the NORMA symbol. hehe...though I hadnt though about this drill for quite a long time, yesterday I got an acute urge to look up all the info I could on Norma thoughtform drills. Id heard tidbits about this drill for a long time now,but it had never occured to me to look up " how to " info on it and learn the drill for myself. Needless to say, this drill can be quite useful for a single man like myself...so I got right to it. I spent most of yesterday afternoon rummaging thru the archives in search of anything " Norma " ,which does tend to bring up alot of irrelevant posts that contain words like " normal " or " normalize " or " abnormal " (thank you MIGHTY search engine). I kept at it though,making sure to set my intent properly and at the end of the day, I recovered over 30 posts with USEFUL, How-To information regarding this drill. So today, I go on the forum and what do you know, Doc has provided me with EVEN MORE USEFUL INFO on EXACTLT WHAT I WAS SEARCHING FOR!!! A mix of attractor fields, telepathy and proper intent, perhaps??? Thanks Doc. This is sooo cool! I love this stuff more and more each day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Doc, That's an awesome post! I got a question or two. Leadbeater seemed to believe (at least the way I read him) that it was more important to get help from the MENTAL plane than from the Astral, and also seemed to be more important to do work on the Mental Plane instead of the astral. But the cases of people in danger who are helped from the fire or from drowning by a physical hand or entire body that helps them, that seems to be from the astral where the astral temporarily takes on a physical form? An example would be the protection from a mother's intense love and desire to protect. But then there are other " beings " who also take astral matter and can take physical form, and they seem to be from the Mental Plane(?) and they sometimes have physical manifestations (temporary) to help someone in need. That's if I recall correctly what I read about what Leadbeater wrote? So why is it important to train on the Astral instead of the Mental? Or are they so entwined that it's difficult to not affect one w/o affecting the other? I think I read (In " Through The Curtain " ?) that Cayce's problem was a disturbance in the astral body so that he had to be in a trance and get messages from the Mental plane to the physical body while they astral was " asleep " or " in trance " ? I don't know. Also, Leadbeater says that ALL emotions create effects on the astral, so taht even if a person calms themselves down emotionally, their psychic vision is still clouded by their emotional habits. I thought hakalau was supposed to (at least partially) bypass that? And I used to think Leadbeater was full of hogwash on that point, but now I think he's right. I still don't know how what he did was / is " acceptable behavior " for someone who put such emphasis on " right living " . I might never have an answer to that. Then again, I might. So if someone does not have control of the astral, are they " doomed " to only get answers while they are " zonked out " like Cayce was? I'm not being disrespectful to the man -- he got really ACCURATE information. I just wonder sometimes, because, for me, I'd like to have answers, and what do you do if you don't have a transcriptionist and someone to ask questions? Remote view, then tape record the questions you have, then make an induction from that, then record more answers while you play the recording with the questions? I mean, I don't know how I could get the answers Cayce got. It would be interesting to find out, but I'd need someone to ask the questions while I was in deep hypnosis. So it would be much more convenient to be able to just know the answer (and the questions to ask to get more answers!). And I disagree with the Kahuna that you quoted. I very much do care about the next life, although I probably care more about right now most of the time. I think what I write and what I do has an effect on the next life, whether or not I actually come across any of it. Anyways, was Leadbeater just some " dumb preacher " guy who got psychic because he had some intensive training? Or did he also have much training in previous lives? I sometimes wonder if you and I knew either him or Cayce at all previously. If Cayce's readings on himself are accurate, then I'm surprised he chose to incarnate as a salesman, even though his health cases did MUCH good for many people and his psychic skills are great learning tools and reference tools. I'm just surprised that someone who at one time was that important chose to come back the way he did. Also, in one of Monroe's books, I think Monroe said he (Monroe) only had one more incarnation left to come back to. One would think that he would have to be somewhere near the level of Jesus Christ to be that evolved. Again, I don't mean any disrespect to anybody. I just wonder about some things. Thanks, Jim docspeed2001 <docspeed2001 Sep 13, 2005 4:16 AM The Lost Secrets on How-to-Become YOUR Own Kahuna! --- , " Nancy Kay " <nights_secrets> wrote: > Just as symbols are LIVING things on the astral plane, so we give > birth to our magickal weapons. Okay, First a few necessary questions about the above sentence. What are symbols? What are living things? What is the Astral Plane? What does giving birth mean in this context? What are our magickal weapons? Answering the above questions about that one sentence is not simple. If we go to Leadbeater, we find that the Astral plane is the world that we go to when we leave this world. Or, as he states, the astral world is the lower worlds of the different Heaven worlds. Well, why do I quote Leadbeater? Because his and Besant's book written in 1905 on " Occult Chemistry " has been proven 100% verifiable by our advanced science in 1985. He has had some of his works verified by science! It is similar to the non-local universe postulated by Quantum Physics... ....or the dream world that the Mind Control people actually use to do their dreams of manifestation in, which is verified by getting what you dream about, AND IS REPEATABLE!!!... ....or the living world of the Aumakua of the Kahuna, where the Kahuna of this world send their prayers with their Mana so they can achieve that which they dream about... ....AND THERE IS A VERIFIABLE AND " REAL " WORKABLE WAY OF DOING THIS! To be a Kahuna and learn to use this world took 20 years (Julius Rodman's book, " The Kahuna Sorcerers of Hawaii " ). To be a great manifester in the Silva Method did take many years, although 90% plus of the practitioners could achieve workable results in 2 to 4 days. I suggest that anyone that wants to learn more about this astral world before they prove their ignorance is to get a few books and study them. (OR COME TO MY UPCOMING SEMINAR!) Here they are. The following little book, " The Astral Plane " by Charles Leadbeater took 40 years to write. It is crammed full of neat little gold nuggets that any remote viewing student can study and learn from. If you really want a bit to chew on, I suggest you get " The Hidden Side of Things " by C.W. Leadbeater. Amazing! " The Astral Body " by A.E. Powell, along with his other 3 books are landmarks in the literature of that nature. Now my point being here, if Powell and Leadbeater are even close to having some coherent skills of thinking and of doing, then there are energy levels on the Astral plane that we can use to build our own futures. In fact, according to both of them, we do build our futures with that material, unconsciously, even if we don't know that we do it. Which is the reason that hypnosis works. Under the focus of deep trance our visualizing skills are 1,000 times more powerful (reference Dick Sutphen), than our thoughts are in normal beta brain wave. So using self-hypnosis, or hypnosis, or Mind-control, we can build awesome tools for just about any thing we desire. And these tools have companion thoughts on the Astral plane! So, by building proper attractor fields you can multiply your wishes into an Alladin's Lamp! Which is what Maxwell Maltz was referring to in his book, " Psycho Cybernetics " . And it is also what Napoleon Hill was referring to in his " Laws of Success " and his " Think & Grow Rich " . They just left out the word " astral plane " because that concept is considered mumbo jumbo by many people who have NOT yet studied and used that concept. Now Remote Viewing is pretty darn well established. (Read Ingo Swann and a whole host of other experts) And, Astral Projection is also pretty darn well established. (Read all the books by Dr. Robert Crookall, especially " The Supreme Adventure, and " The Interpretation of Cosmic and Mystical Experiences " ) Then we have the near death experiences. Easy to find source materials for that so I won't mention them. What do the NDE have to do with the Astral Plane? Well, read George Meeks's book " We don't Die " and find out for yourself. But remember, if you think that if you sail too far out on the ocean and you are going to fall off the edge of the world, then these books written by very intelligent and experienced men, just might be too much for you to handel. Robert Monroe's first book ( " Far Journeys " ) is totally about his " accidental " adventures in the Astral Plane. Now he was considered so reliable with his skills of astral projection that he founded the Monroe Institute, that " Skip Atwater " actually went to him for advanced remote viewing...and is currently running the Monroe Institute. Now, I've only gone over a small amount of the valid literature on the astral plane, and after you study these, and practice what is in them, I'll give more. Fair? Okay. Let's talk about Ideals since Sandy did a post and brought them up. Now, why am I talking about Ideals in this post about the astral plane? Because ideals and ideas BOTH exist there. Now most people DON'T WANT IDEALS. Nor could most people live their lives that way if they had them. Even Mother T, who really helped a lot of poor people was one hell of a business woman! For example, my wife doesn't want ideals; she wants a car/truck/van that gets 35-40 plus miles per gallon. And she has certain criteria for that vehicle besides miles-per-gallon. Well we did our research and got what she wanted. PRESTO, that idea is now terminated and she is now focused on something else. Like cleaning out the spare bedroom so that when Vince comes for my seminar in Oct (21-22-23) he can stay in the spare bedroom. When it's cleaned, PRESTO, that idea is now terminated, and she'll focus on something else. > We give birth to our magical instruments. So what are our Magical instruments? Probably not what the person that wrote the original post thinks. More on the line of building bridges of consciousness between the different parts of the brain and different levels of the mind!!! ....so that we can connect consciously with the " creative universe " , also called the astral plane. NOTE: Swendenburg has some real neat concepts about the astra plane also. Hard to read but very worth the study. Then the difficult part is learning to apply that expertise to your own reality, to your own wants, to your own MANIFESTATIONS! That's okay. I'll help you. In my upcoming seminar we are going BEYOND hypnosis, into complete conscious control of your awareness at different levels of minds and at different realms of mind. Why is that important? So we can set-up attractor fields in the non-local universe (the Astral Plane) and bring into existence THERE what we want to have in existence HERE! You need to think about it first, you need to plan it well, and build up the proper thought form along with the proper ATTITUDE, along with the proper ENERGY and the proper ACTIONS on this physical plane of existence BEFORE it can exist here. You need to do a Clarity Model on it to see what having that brought into MANIFESTATION will cause you to gain and cause you to lose. So you need a reality check to verify if that new MANIFESTATION is worth it. Magical tools, from my reference point refers to the MENTAL BUILDING BLOCKS of MANIFESTATION, and NOT to a sight-seeing tour on the Astral Plane so you can peek around out of curiosity. Most people who have curiosity about the Astral plane want to visit there to see a dead relative, or to talk with some genii that will help them get what they want. If you really knew about genii I think you'd stay away from them. Let's talk about " focus " . A year or so back, I created something for one of my students out of Mexico City. We called her NORMA! And I taught him how to use his NORMA thought-form in wonderous ways for enjoyment for BOTH of them. So I elicited what he liked about NORMA. Would by believe it was all neat sexual stuff? Well anyway, there were 35 others in the class room that also used the NORMA symbol. I mean a REAL PHYSICAL SYMBOL that they would bring forth physically, and then place that `SYMBOL' into the female they were talking to…and wonders to behold, lots of FUN for both of them. NORMA is in the archives. Look and learn. So anyway, now many people are using the NORMA symbol for dating. Now if they'd used their imagination correctly and the right level of mind and with the full brain's potential, they WILL BE SUCCESSFUL. Charles Fillmore, a co-founder of Unity said, " You learn by living and learning how to keep on being alive. " The Kahuna say, " Works beyond this physical world are too vast for me to concern myself with. So do what I know is right, right here and now, and my next life is something I don't have to worry about. " So what's the point of this post? Simple. Have a good reason for building those tools. Seduction is a good reason " if " it is YOUR reason. My wife had her " criteria " . With that criteria we did research. We found EXACTLY the vehicle she wanted, and bought it. Now, knowing about the astral plane, the mental plane, the Etheric double, and the casual body, why and how is any of the above valid and necessary for MANIFESTATION? Dr John M. La Tourrette The Lost Secrets on How-to-Become YOUR Own Kahuna! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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